Filipino Players in Foreign Leagues

[Stevy]

I really dont care if they despise me. I am just supporting Kai and my confidence comes from diligently watching kai's progress. You cant really rely on mock writers who cant even dwell 1hr to check each prospect. They even havent updated their report on Kai and that was still last u19. Kai's growth is exponential every year. It is not my trait to rely on anyone for opinion. We were given the mind to evaluate things and givony isnt perfect in his takes.

Sure but do you really have to shit on other prospects? Do you really have to shit on analysts? At the end what the prospects do, analysts do does not matter. NBA teams have their own scouts and if Kai does do well in the NBL and I believe that he will then he will simply be drafted. You don't need to shit on people to raise Kai man. You say that you diligently watch Kai's progress but you can't even acknowledge that Kai at the present cannot play more than 20 mins. Kai still has to improve his conditioning, Strength and etc. If he can do it in 1 year in the NBL then Great but if he has some holes by then he can simply play another season with 36ers. All I know is whether it will take a year or two, Kai will make it if his weaknesses are addressed and taken care off. All of us in IBN support Kai but most of us don't need to be as toxic as you. Sure you have the freedom to comment and like you said you don't give a fuck then so be it, you do you.

[NOiNU]

I really dont care if they despise me. I am just supporting Kai and my confidence comes from diligently watching kai's progress. You cant really rely on mock writers who cant even dwell 1hr to check each prospect. They even havent updated their report on Kai and that was still last u19. Kai's growth is exponential every year. It is not my trait to rely on anyone for opinion. We were given the mind to evaluate things and givony isnt perfect in his takes.

Aren’t you so full of yourself to assume others who doesn’t share your view of Kai as reliant on writers? Do you really believe you are the only one who has the capability to evaluate things? Because from what I see, there are a lot of posters here who are capable of critical thinking. Some just happen to not share your perspective regarding Kai.

I’d be careful to brand those who view Chet as better than Kai as leeches. From what I observe, they are not the ones who go around IBN (and other media platforms) posting and commenting like everything is all about Chet.

[Stevy]

We know we have some posters here who posts shit about Kai on other platforms. Is that the despise of peezones spilling over or is it just plain truth that crabs exist.

Chet was one of those names brought up to put kai down. Now that 19yo Chet's numbers didn't turn out to be much better than 17 yo Kai's, the comparison is now interpreted as bringing down other prospects to bring kai up. That's a bit funny.

What do you find funny? I don't care about Kai haters or Kai lovers man. I am obviously a fan of Kai but I don't need to shit on people. Whoever those people were bringing down on kai are toxic as well. I take it as it is, I don't care about the others especially if they were toxic but new members like me in IBN came here for a reason. I thought that this is the place where things were more sensible and that is true to a certain extent but when I see the same toxicity you would expect in a YouTube video, it just ruins the experience. I am all good with whatever opinions, doesn't matter but I would appreciate it if we keep it in a level of mutual respect, facts, and obviously no toxicity man. I never brought Kai down or Chet and I wish them both the best on their careers.

[NOiNU]

We know we have some posters here who posts shit about Kai on other platforms. Is that the despise of peezones spilling over or is it just plain truth that crabs exist.

Chet was one of those names brought up to put kai down. Now that 19yo Chet's numbers didn't turn out to be much better than 17 yo Kai's, the comparison is now interpreted as bringing down other prospects to bring kai up. That's a bit funny.

Crabs exist but I was particularly referring to posters here in IBN. If you did not notice, I even mentioned the infamous troll accounts that malign Kai. And no, Idk if they post the same elsewhere or not. I don’t know anyone here personally.

Though no one would admit, I believe these people have said some things they don’t really mean just to piss off or mock Peezones’ take.

[PeeZones]

Aren’t you so full of yourself to assume others who doesn’t share your view of Kai as reliant on writers? Do you really believe you are the only one who has the capability to evaluate things? Because from what I see, there are a lot of posters here who are capable of critical thinking. Some just happen to not share your perspective regarding Kai.

I’d be careful to brand those who view Chet as better than Kai as leeches. From what I observe, they are not the ones who go around IBN (and other media platforms) posting and commenting like everything is all about Chet.

Noinu I dont have a beef with you and actually I like you as a forumer here. You were most of the time decent but there are those who really are *ssholes here.

Dont be carried away if you dont fall in that category. I was just correcting your take regarding chet because it was obvious that you didnt really watch entire games of him.

Most who despise me hate my confidence and guts.haha i am by nature very competitive and i dont state things that I cant defend. They would end up just trolling and calling for groupies to help them.

Moveon if you dont belong to that group and admit that you really didnt check full games of Chet. All is well I know you support Kai and Gilas.

[NOiNU]

Noinu I dont have a beef with you and actually I like you as a forumer here. You were most of the time decent but there are those who really are *ssholes here.

Dont be carried away if you dont fall in that category. I was just correcting your take regarding chet because it was obvious that you didnt really watch entire games of him.

Most who despise me hate my confidence and guts.haha i am by nature very competitive and i dont state things that I cant defend. They would end up just trolling and calling for groupies to help them.

Moveon if you dont belong to that group and admit that you really didnt check full games of Chet. All is well I know you support Kai and Gilas.

What take is there to correct? That I pick Chet over Kai right now? I’ve seen the U19 games of USA, not all in its entirety but I’ve seen enough. And I’ve known Holmgren way before this u19 and even before the viral Curry clip. If you haven’t been noticing, I didn’t even bother to offer counter arguments or rebuttals because everything’s been said before anyway, and I don’t intend to bother myself refuting a take that’s built on an assumption that Chet’s body couldn’t take in weight, or that it would slow him down, because how do you refute an assumption? The smart thing to do is to let time decide who’s right or wrong. I don’t understand why you can’t accept “to each his own” as a middle ground. Do you really feel the need to “correct” me, ergo convince me Kai is better by writing all those walls of posts? I’ve read all those arguments before, even the rebuttals the other side has to offer. I’ve seen enough games of both Kai and Chet to form my own personal judgment/opinion. When I say i’d pick Chet over Kai right now, it’s my personal choice based on all the infos I’ve watched, read or heard about both players. Frankly, I simply don’t understand why there’s a need for me to be “corrected”.

Me picking Chet right now doesn’t equate to me putting cap on Kai’s potential. I have always believed it is not how one starts, but how he finishes. I’d be very happy if in the end Kai proves to be the better player between the two.

[CoJ]

why single out givony? it's not like he's d only one who list kai as outside of d top 60 for 2021 or 2022.

most mock drafts are generally accurate in terms of d top picks and in terms of who are drafted in d first round, especially on lottery picks.

projections d second round is of course less accurate.

d better ones, they have access to actual nba scouts and this is where they mainly get their source of assessment, not just from their own scouting.

some sites/groups are fantasy mock drafts made by fans who make them by copying what they see from top sites.

while it's great if kai will be drafted in d first round, i am more after seeing him play in d nba and having a good career, regardless of d route. too many big men picked in lottery who have fizzled out and is no longer in d nba in 5 years or less, while a second rounder of a big just won d MVP in jokic. so it's up to kai to show what he can do, not to change d minds of people doing mock drafts, but for nba gms and talent evaluators to give him d opportunity that we all want him to be given.

there's a reason why the likes of givony are paid millions of dollars,have international reach and teams often refer to their analysis and why we are here posting our thoughts without being paid..just saying peace

[PeeZones]

You are entitled to your opinion but if you didnt watch all of them you possibly miss the instances he was struggling. It is a free world and i am not here to convince you on your take. As it stand Kai has shown he could compete against way older competition and was really decent.

It will always be the end result that matter and that chet body has been the same eversince. It would be already too late if they were planning to apply for next year's draft. No first pick ever had a body like Chet and someone who cant clearly instantly contribute. We will wait and see till then.

May opinion may not be popular but there are a lot of those that share the same. We also should be respected with our takes and Chet will always be a gauge for Kai's performance.

[PeeZones]

How can you rely on someone who cant even diligently allocate time to check a prospect? Kai's scouting report is still last u19 when he was 17 and preTSF.

Even if he is Givony, he is not infallible and he was wrong countless times.

Also, even if those writers doesnt favor Kai, there are a lot who see him as someone special.

[neo]

You are entitled to your opinion but if you didnt watch all of them you possibly miss the instances he was struggling. It is a free world and i am not here to convince you on your take. As it stand Kai has shown he could compete against way older competition and was really decent.

It will always be the end result that matter and that chet body has been the same eversince. It would be already too late if they were planning to apply for next year's draft. No first pick ever had a body like Chet and someone who cant clearly instantly contribute. We will wait and see till then.

May opinion may not be popular but there are a lot of those that share the same. We also should be respected with our takes and Chet will always be a gauge for Kai's performance.

i agree on the use of d phrase "a gauge", not "the gauge".

[PeeZones]

i agree on the use of d phrase "a gauge", not "the gauge".

Gauge for comparison but if your implying that he is a standard that Kai needs to follow then that is BS. Wala namang innate trait that Chet is head over hills over Kai unless he was Zion or Dwight Howard.

[neo]

Gauge for comparison but if your implying that he is a standard that Kai needs to follow then that is BS. Wala namang innate trait that Chet is head over hills over Kai unless he was Zion or Dwight Howard.

why would i imply anything, ur d one who use the word "gauge"

the operative word "a" not "the" to which i agree.

[PeeZones]

why would i imply anything, ur d one who use the word "gauge"

the operative word "a" not "the" to which i agree.

ill take it back your statement was right. just to be clear ill reiterate gauge as a point of comparison for they are of the same age and almost the same skillset.

[NOiNU]

You are entitled to your opinion but if you didnt watch all of them you possibly miss the instances he was struggling. It is a free world and i am not here to convince you on your take. As it stand Kai has shown he could compete against way older competition and was really decent.

It will always be the end result that matter and that chet body has been the same eversince. It would be already too late if they were planning to apply for next year's draft. No first pick ever had a body like Chet and someone who cant clearly instantly contribute. We will wait and see till then.

May opinion may not be popular but there are a lot of those that share the same. We also should be respected with our takes and Chet will always be a gauge for Kai's performance.

I’ve seen Chet’s struggles the same way I’ve seen Kai’s. No need to assume the other side is under informed or misinformed that is why they arrived to an opinion different from yours. It just happens, the differing views.

[neo]

ill take it back your statement was right. just to be clear ill reiterate gauge as a point of comparison for they are of the same age and almost the same skillset.

and as mentioned in a previous post of mine, they are both tall and lanky "white" bigs.

chet in gonzaga for d1 action, kai in adelaide for nbl action. i wish both success.

we just won our first olympic gold. next, d first homegrown filipino in d nba naman.