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  • This article was written in Jan 4, 2020, at the time Sotto an ignite g- league sign up was indeed an intriguing prospect. whatever happened since then has put Kai in the status as not eligible for a next star programme sign -up , but as a regular Asian development import sign-up. the NBL league front office made that assessment , no one else.


    Between LaMelo Ball and RJ Hampton, it's going to be hard to top this year's crop of young talent, both in terms of ability and entertainment value.


    7. Kai Sotto
    Kai Sotto is another potential 2021 prospect looking at professional options. A four star prospect out of the Phillipines, Sotto could qualify as either a Next Star or local, whether in a development or full roster role, through the Asian player rule exception. Given his current ranking of 76th on the 'ESPN 100' High School rankings, the latter may be a more likely path to the NBL, and it could mean seeing him in the league for multiple seasons.

    Sotto is currently fielding offers from both pro teams and college, including European powerhouses Barcelona and Real Madrid, and is said currently to be preferencing the European route. These will be hard offers for the the NBL to compete with, but a potential selling point could be that Sotto may struggle to acquire minutes at such a high level and may find a better opportunity for minutes and development on an NBL roster.

    While his current ranking reflects his raw nature, at 7'2 and of a high skill level, Sotto has plenty of NBA level potential long term. Sotto has impressive mobility for his size, and has shown a knack for passing, a soft touch, and some long term shooting potential. Satto would also provide plenty of eyes on the NBL, as he is arguably the best Phillipino-born NBA prospect in history. The country is basketball-crazed, and with the hopes of a nation on his back, the many clicks that Sotto's online footprint carries with him (some videos of his play have hit millions of YouTube views) would surely carry over to the NBL.

    It's likely that Sotto entertains the idea of declaring straight out of high school, or indeed looks to Europe, but his situation seems to lend itself to the predraft development the NBL can afford to offer, and it would make sense for the NBL to make a push for him.
    Last edited by DAdmiral; 07-29-2021, 02:39 AM.

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    • Originally posted by reamily View Post
      Wait so is it correct that Japan B league offers more than Australia NBL as I see some nbl players play in Japan during nbl season and just return back and some guys like Julian Kazzouh back then go to lebanon..

      As for the bolded part, does this mean nbl gets a financial return to this like what happened to Lamelo ball and now Josh Giddey?
      I'm not privy to what they offer in Japan, (i am of ANBL) , but here is an indication Fotu was being courted by the Breakers , but they failed to convinece him , he went back to Europe and then recently signed with Japan. (obviously if money was the same , Fotu would stay home with family in New zealand) ..

      Absolutely the attraction of Lamelo Ball ( a next star program sign-up) provides significant benefit to the Australian NBL league front office, all the media attention ., So it's really good investment for the league to get these future stars and pay for it ( salaries over $ 500k annually ) , a testament of this is. the ANBL recently signed a huge broadcasting deal with ESPN. the revenue goes to each team cost to run a team. Much of the reason for the deal was because of sign ups like Lamelo Ball , RJ Hampton etc etc. the next star programme for next year , again has signed some big names.. And the league ( not the teams) are more than happy to spend and pay their salaries (it's really good return on investment )
      Last edited by DAdmiral; 07-29-2021, 03:02 AM.

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      • So team salary cap in NBL is $ 1.5 M
        top players (local starters) and imports get around $ 200K
        Bench player - $ 100k
        Development players $ 30 K





        now the next star program players get - $ 500k ( but this is not included or counted in the team salary cap of $ 1.5) and also it is funded by the league not the team. ( so you see every team would like to avail of this and get a next star program player) to qualify as a next player program player , one has to be assessed by the NBL office as a next year draft prospect (normally 1st round projection)

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        • Originally posted by dubidub View Post
          anyone here listens to chad ford's nba big board podcast? he had david thorpe, a respected coach and analyst, as a guest yesterday. anyway, he said some interesting things about the IGNITE program. he said that he has been diving in on international high level games, college basketball games, and the gleague showcase in which he has clients. he said that the tactics being run at IGNITE was garbage especially when compared to the international leagues. yep, exact word used was "garbage". the gleague team's system was "give it to green then get out of the way.... your turn, your turn, your turn..." he felt that player development within the IGNITE system did NOT turn out well.
          It's nice to be vindicated. Me and a few people here were saying what David Thorpe also said in that podcast.

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          • this is OT, but a very interesting aspect of the NBL salary cap

            A marquee player must be an Australian or New Zealander and a club can have a maximum of four of these players. That being said, teams are only allowed a total of four marquee and restricted (import) players combined. Interesting clause, the rules incentivse signing a good local player instead of an import Of course, to this point teams have not tended to go for a third or fourth Marquee guy as that would mean they’d have either one or zero imports.

            Two? Well yeah, that happens.

            so the NBL salary cap system actually makes teams not rely on imports. and financially it can pay the best local stars more than imports

            The Breakers this season signed a bano / developing player as an import. (someone who might not even get minutes) , why? to save the money and cap space on signinng the best locals so they don't play overseas

            magine that , the PBA can learn something from that, instead of paying a super import , give the money to a super local star like Kiefer or Parks .. it's actually smart

            how insane is that , the PBA is willing to pay imports whatever, but is not willing to pay it's local stars what they can get in Japan , Kalokohan

            Can Parks say , can you please pay me like an import per month LOL
            Last edited by DAdmiral; 07-29-2021, 04:00 AM.

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            • Originally posted by jasper222 View Post
              It's nice to be vindicated. Me and a few people here were saying what David Thorpe also said in that podcast.
              Yessir. That's the first thing that came to my mind when i heard that. Hehe

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              • Originally posted by dubidub View Post
                Yessir. That's the first thing that came to my mind when i heard that. Hehe
                You dont have to be vindicated.. it ganun naman talaga..
                To becomes Asia's Best, we need to compete against the World's Best..
                1 Big 4 small > 5 out offense.

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                • Kai's low ranking isn't surprising. These draft writers rarely check prospects unless you would create a buzz in the US. With mere common sense and sound analysis, you could conclude that these writer's check around 150-100 prospect each year. Most of them just rely on consensus mock drafts and buzz around a player. They dont really religiously observe each player and they dont bother to check most of them. Most players not in the US would ONLY be included in the actual draft year because REAL INTEREST from NBA teams would be obvious in the grapevine. Giddey, Porzingis, Sengun and others didnt have monstrous stat prior to draft night but real NBA scouts think that their game would translate in the NBA.

                  Kai currently is bound to be at least top 3 if not the best big of 2022. He is molding to be a more offensive minded Gobert with issues in stamina. The questions about his laterals and defense were out of the window these days. Also, the uncertainty that he cant withstand banging against NBL bigs had been proven wrong. Ratliffe, Bobi, Prosper and Domrep bulky big were way bigger than most NBL bigs. The heaviest C in NBL is Nathan Jawaii and he was just similar to Domrep Jonathan Araujo.

                  Adelaide has been tinkering their roster to really suit Kai. Currently, they only have 3 bigs and Kai could play both position really well. It is also great for Kai that his teammates were all mature and team's objective would be winning and not like with ignite that players tend to outshine each other. I expect the coach to really use Kai for at least 15-25 minutes and his teammates would love playing with him. Kai is a very good screener and passer. He also read plays on a high level.

                  Kai's draft stock would significantly change next year after his NBL stint. All draft writer's didn't really bother to check our OQT games.lol After seeing Chet being mediocre and sometimes struggle against his U19 competition, you can't really hold yourself but feel excited about Kai's chances for next year. It also helped that Bigs were flourishing this year in the NBA. The whole world didn't follow the GSW blueprint and that GSW model has been history now with the leaving of Durant. EUROLEAGUE and NBL were still the same and I expect the US to follow soon with how they will use their bigs eventually.
                  Last edited by PeeZones; 07-29-2021, 10:41 AM.

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                  • Originally posted by DAdmiral View Post
                    this is OT, but a very interesting aspect of the NBL salary cap

                    A marquee player must be an Australian or New Zealander and a club can have a maximum of four of these players. That being said, teams are only allowed a total of four marquee and restricted (import) players combined. Interesting clause, the rules incentivse signing a good local player instead of an import Of course, to this point teams have not tended to go for a third or fourth Marquee guy as that would mean they’d have either one or zero imports.

                    Two? Well yeah, that happens.

                    so the NBL salary cap system actually makes teams not rely on imports. and financially it can pay the best local stars more than imports

                    The Breakers this season signed a bano / developing player as an import. (someone who might not even get minutes) , why? to save the money and cap space on signinng the best locals so they don't play overseas

                    magine that , the PBA can learn something from that, instead of paying a super import , give the money to a super local star like Kiefer or Parks .. it's actually smart

                    how insane is that , the PBA is willing to pay imports whatever, but is not willing to pay it's local stars what they can get in Japan , Kalokohan

                    Can Parks say , can you please pay me like an import per month LOL
                    The PBA league knows some pba/ibn fans still love super import to dominate in scoring.
                    To the point that they would prefer np who needs to be scorer.
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                    • Originally posted by PeeZones View Post
                      Kai's low ranking isn't surprising. These draft writers rarely check prospects unless you would create a buzz in the US. With mere common sense and sound analysis, you could conclude that these writer's check around 150-100 prospect each year. Most of them just rely on consensus mock drafts and buzz around a player. They dont really religiously observe each player and they dont bother to check most of them. Most players not in the US would ONLY be included in the actual draft year because REAL INTEREST from NBA teams would be obvious in the grapevine. Giddey, Porzingis, Sengun and others didnt have monstrous stat prior to draft night but real NBA scouts think that their game would translate in the NBA.

                      Kai currently is bound to be at least top 3 if not the best big of 2022. He is molding to be a more offensive minded Gobert with issues in stamina. The questions about his laterals and defense were out of the window these days. Also, the uncertainty that he cant withstand banging against NBL bigs had been proven wrong. Ratliffe, Bobi, Prosper and Domrep bulky big were way bigger than most NBL bigs. The heaviest C in NBL is Nathan Jawaii and he was just similar to Domrep Jonathan Araujo.

                      Adelaide has been tinkering their roster to really suit Kai. Currently, they only have 3 bigs and Kai could play both position really well. It is also great for Kai that his teammates were all mature and team's objective would be winning and not like with ignite that players tend to outshine each other. I expect the coach to really use Kai for at least 15-25 minutes and his teammates would love playing with him. Kai is a very good screener and passer. He also read plays on a high level.

                      Kai's draft stock would significantly change next year after his NBL stint. All draft writer's didn't really bother to check our OQT games.lol After seeing Chet being mediocre and sometimes struggle against his U19 competition, you can't really hold yourself but feel excited about Kai's chances for next year. It also helped that Bigs were flourishing this year in the NBA. The whole world didn't follow the GSW blueprint and that GSW model has been history now with the leaving of Durant. EUROLEAGUE and NBL were still the same and I expect the US to follow soon with how they will use their bigs eventually.
                      Chet was declared the MVP of the recent U19 WC. Solidifying him for now as #1 pick of his Draft Class. Why is he mediocre?

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                      • Originally posted by PeeZones View Post
                        Kai's low ranking isn't surprising. These draft writers rarely check prospects unless you would create a buzz in the US. With mere common sense and sound analysis, you could conclude that these writer's check around 150-100 prospect each year. Most of them just rely on consensus mock drafts and buzz around a player. They dont really religiously observe each player and they dont bother to check most of them. Most players not in the US would ONLY be included in the actual draft year because REAL INTEREST from NBA teams would be obvious in the grapevine. Giddey, Porzingis, Sengun and others didnt have monstrous stat prior to draft night but real NBA scouts think that their game would translate in the NBA.

                        Kai currently is bound to be at least top 3 if not the best big of 2022. He is molding to be a more offensive minded Gobert with issues in stamina. The questions about his laterals and defense were out of the window these days. Also, the uncertainty that he cant withstand banging against NBL bigs had been proven wrong. Ratliffe, Bobi, Prosper and Domrep bulky big were way bigger than most NBL bigs. The heaviest C in NBL is Nathan Jawaii and he was just similar to Domrep Jonathan Araujo.

                        Adelaide has been tinkering their roster to really suit Kai. Currently, they only have 3 bigs and Kai could play both position really well. It is also great for Kai that his teammates were all mature and team's objective would be winning and not like with ignite that players tend to outshine each other. I expect the coach to really use Kai for at least 15-25 minutes and his teammates would love playing with him. Kai is a very good screener and passer. He also read plays on a high level.

                        Kai's draft stock would significantly change next year after his NBL stint. All draft writer's didn't really bother to check our OQT games.lol After seeing Chet being mediocre and sometimes struggle against his U19 competition, you can't really hold yourself but feel excited about Kai's chances for next year. It also helped that Bigs were flourishing this year in the NBA. The whole world didn't follow the GSW blueprint and that GSW model has been history now with the leaving of Durant. EUROLEAGUE and NBL were still the same and I expect the US to follow soon with how they will use their bigs eventually.
                        talangka spotted pilit hinihila pababa si mr holmgrem para lang iakyat si mr sotto. ano ba napatunayan ni mr sotto besydes getting owned by low class indonesia and not mentioning yung 3/13 FG and -20 efficiency rating against serbia?
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                        Originally posted by PeeZones
                        Kai is a top ten lottery pick come draft day and the best team for him is the spurs..
                        (B2)oy Toxic
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                        now to be totally honest with you, 100%, I personally feel he (ricci rivero) should be in the NBA today

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                        • I dont have time to argue with feeble minded retards who cant even formulate their own views and who needs backing of groupies just to insist their comments!hahaha Cant even comprehend and read properly the contents of my post. The main subject was always ABOUT KAI'S SKILLSET while they insist I was always comparing players and achievements.

                          Stick with your idiocy and adding me up in your GC just revealed your identities!lol I dont need anyone to confirm what I believe and I dont need any comment from any mock writer to vindicate my claims.hahaha

                          Ride that Chet Holgrem hype for he will fall hard in your faces.hahaha

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                          • Originally posted by reamily View Post
                            You dont have to be vindicated.. it ganun naman talaga..
                            I beg to differ sir reamily...there were a lot of people who said the scouts and coaches knew what they were doing.

                            Originally posted by cocoyg View Post
                            Chet was declared the MVP of the recent U19 WC. Solidifying him for now as #1 pick of his Draft Class. Why is he mediocre?
                            I don't agree with the sentiment that Chet is mediocre, but I only think he got MVP because he's the most prolific player in the team. I said before that I thought Lofton was better, and that many people think Wembanyama is better than him (not Pinoys).

                            A big part of why I don't think the Chet hype is all that, is because the only 7 ft with excellent mobility that prospered after KD was Giannis. Everyone else was a bust, and we haven't seen Chet bang bodies against much bigger men at all, which was used as a slight against Kai (but surprisingly not against Chet).

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                            • Originally posted by jasper222 View Post
                              I beg to differ sir reamily...there were a lot of people who said the scouts and coaches knew what they were doing.



                              I don't agree with the sentiment that Chet is mediocre, but I only think he got MVP because he's the most prolific player in the team. I said before that I thought Lofton was better, and that many people think Wembanyama is better than him (not Pinoys).

                              A big part of why I don't think the Chet hype is all that, is because the only 7 ft with excellent mobility that prospered after KD was Giannis. Everyone else was a bust, and we haven't seen Chet bang bodies against much bigger men at all, which was used as a slight against Kai (but surprisingly not against Chet).
                              Chet's performance was mediocre and not equal the HYPE surrounding him. 17yr old Kai and Victor had almost the same statline.hahaha Givony even admitted he didnt deserve that MVP. That frail frame and KD wannabe gameplay for bigs has never prospered in the NBA. He was way weaker than Bolbol and I didnt expect that he would be slow like most PF/C. I was expecting he would be as agile and explosive like KD. With very weak frame and average speed, it would be hard to imagine him even excelling in the Gleague. It would take him a lot of years to be NBA ready and with a constant hoard of Euro stretch 4s every year with the same skillset with much better physique, the interest in him might fizzle out. Belgica, Saric, Kleber, Markannen and the likes would be way better than Chet and Chet will never be a functional SF.haha

                              I also wont bank on him bulking up because that might slow him more and his very frail ankles and legs doesn't seem ready to accommodate more weight. This is not degrading Chet but I just state on what I saw last u19.
                              Last edited by PeeZones; 07-29-2021, 03:26 PM.

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                              • Originally posted by PeeZones View Post
                                Chet's performance was mediocre and not equal the HYPE surrounding him. 17yr old Kai and Victor had almost the same statline.hahaha Givony even admitted he didnt deserve that MVP. That frail frame and KD wannabe gameplay for bigs has never prospered in the NBA. He was way weaker than Bolbol and I didnt expect that he would be slow like most PF/C. I was expecting he would be as agile and explosive like KD. With very weak frame and average speed, it would be hard to imagine him even excelling in the Gleague. It would take him a lot of years to be NBA ready and with a constant hoard of Euro stretch 4s every year with the same skillset with much better physique, the interest in him might fizzle out. Belgica, Saric, Kleber, Markannen and the likes would be way better than Chet and Chet will never be a functional SF.haha

                                I also wont bank on him bulking up because that might slow him more and his very frail ankles and legs doesn't seem ready to accommodate more weight. This is not degrading Chet but I just state on what I saw last u19.
                                Chet can shoot, though and have a really good court vision. On the defensive side, he is a plus defender and can even contain the perimeter. So for all your concerns regarding him being a disappointment, there are some strong points that he can build on to prove his mettle.

                                I actually agree with you he might be a disappointment considering all the hype. But with regards to Kai being better, I beg to differ. Needless to say of course, as a fellow Filipino I wish Kai ends up the better player.
                                Never look too far ahead. You might stumble on a block right in front of you.

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