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  • Originally posted by deku_midoriya View Post

    No, not a language barrier. He is just not good enough
    Balti is what KQ's critics acuse him of. People forget Aldin Ayo used Balti as a big just like any other local coach would use an actual 6'6 local player. If he had been handled like Troy Rosario whose game was predicted on mobility than just towering over people, he might not have been the 27-year-old PBA rookie that he is.

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    • Originally posted by paolylo View Post

      Balti is what KQ's critics acuse him of. People forget Aldin Ayo used Balti as a big just like any other local coach would use an actual 6'6 local player. If he had been handled like Troy Rosario whose game was predicted on mobility than just towering over people, he might not have been the 27-year-old PBA rookie that he is.
      Ar least KQ proved himself in Dubai and in the KBL right now.

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      • Originally posted by zairex View Post

        I think just like JF, Balti is happy and satisfied were he is. JF is still gave alot of foreign teams issue while playing with a repaired shin bone.
        Any of the Gilas 12 right now can play well and contribute to any club in Asia outside of the PBA. Thats quality. Balti has not shown this in Japan and the failed KBL stint

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        • Originally posted by deku_midoriya View Post

          Ar least KQ proved himself in Dubai and in the KBL right now.
          But the thing was we saw glimpses of Balti dropping buckets at the top of the key and guarding wings in those qualifiers in Angeles City and Serbia when Baldwin was the coach... then he went back to La Salle in the middle of a lockdown and next thing you know, he looked really uncomfortable in Japan.

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          • Originally posted by deku_midoriya View Post

            Any of the Gilas 12 right now can play well and contribute to any club in Asia outside of the PBA. Thats quality. Balti has not shown this in Japan and the failed KBL stint
            Because he did not take the chance to play in the KBL, lol. Did he even play a single tune-up game for his supposed KBL team? If I remember correctly, the issue was that he chose Delta over the KBL team, so he didn't show up. We can't judge him based on his stint in the KBL because there's no data to assess.

            If we're going to base it on his failed B.League stint, he wasn't given proper playing time there. His situation is very similar to how Carl was handled at Ryukyu. And guess what? When Carl was given a chance at LG Sakers, he delivered. The same is likely to happen with Balti if he had chosen the KBL over Delta. He’s also playing well with Converge right now.


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            • Originally posted by paolylo View Post

              But the thing was we saw glimpses of Balti dropping buckets at the top of the key and guarding wings in those qualifiers in Angeles City and Serbia when Baldwin was the coach... then he went back to La Salle in the middle of a lockdown and next thing you know, he looked really uncomfortable in Japan.
              Everyone played well under Baldwin. The thing with Balti he is too thin to be an inside banger, too slow to be a dynamic SF and too inconsistent as a shooter. KQ at least can post up and overpower opposing Asian PFs and good shooting mechanics and percentages.

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              • Originally posted by lem0nadi View Post

                Because he did not take the chance to play in the KBL, lol. Did he even play a single tune-up game for his supposed KBL team? If I remember correctly, the issue was that he chose Delta over the KBL team, so he didn't show up. We can't judge him based on his stint in the KBL because there's no data to assess.

                If we're going to base it on his failed B.League stint, he wasn't given proper playing time there. His situation is very similar to how Carl was handled at Ryukyu. And guess what? When Carl was given a chance at LG Sakers, he delivered. The same is likely to happen with Balti if he had chosen the KBL over Delta. He’s also playing well with Converge right now.

                Unlike Balti Carl had good games in the B League. A good point of reference is their KQ and Balti in Dubai. I really think Balti is fringe Gilas material. Can he be a Gilas player? Maybe. But at the moment, he aint replacing anyone in the Gilas 12. Maybe in the Gilas 15, he just have to prove he is better than Japeth, Mason or Koume by playing and dominating the old relics in the PBA

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                • Originally posted by deku_midoriya View Post

                  No, not a language barrier. He is just not good enough
                  idt that's the case if guys like Epistola and Oczon are getting touches in the kbl, Balti has more upsides than them.

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                  • Balti would have been good enough. Maybe not right away though. Balti is 6’6 without shoes with a 6’9 wingspan and is mobile for a homegrown for his size. In the MPBL and in the UAAP he didnt have to be efficient at 3 or in the post. His length and height plus his defense makes it hard for him to be benched even if his efficiency could improve. He gets a lot of offensive boards and putbacks. In the PBA and probably in the KBL he would have been forced to be more efficient on offense.

                    First his KBL team would be disappointed that he is just 6’6 without shoes and not his B league listing of 6’10. But he is actually a natural 4. He is a bit understrength but his height and length would have made him a plus defender at the 4 and a good secondary rim protector. He wouldve been forced to improve his 3. But I doubt he wouldnt have improved it in KBL as it would have probably a focus for him there.

                    What he improved though in MPBL is his secondary passing. If he improves his 3 he would be a nightmare at the 4 in the PBA. He is already decent without a consistent 3.

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                    • Originally posted by deku_midoriya View Post

                      Unlike Balti Carl had good games in the B League. A good point of reference is their KQ and Balti in Dubai. I really think Balti is fringe Gilas material. Can he be a Gilas player? Maybe. But at the moment, he aint replacing anyone in the Gilas 12. Maybe in the Gilas 15, he just have to prove he is better than Japeth, Mason or Koume by playing and dominating the old relics in the PBA
                      KQ developed to be a good shooter. But let’s not pretend that being surrounded by Dwight Howard and others didnt give him good looks. Balti’s weakness at that level is his 3. That’s why he didnt produce that much. But your forgot he got 15 pts in their penultimate game. Also, a big part of Balti’s game is defense. He defended decently. Again Arakji scored on him but got away with a blatant lifting of his pivot foot. Balti has a lot of catching up on KQ and Carl’s offense but let us not let some blow bys forget that he is a good defender. In his Gilas stint he typically placed second to Kouame in minutes played. It is because second to Kouame he was their best defender overall.

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                      • Balti also did well defending against tall Korean shooters like Hyunjung Lee who would've torched 6'3 pinoy forwards alive and did decent defending tall players in the King Abdullah Cup. Still a bummer because KQ and Tamayo have far surpassed him in personal development, just goes to show that just because someone is NT material(at least for a while) doesn't really mean they're appropriate players for professional clubs.

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                        • Originally posted by empyreanmaze View Post
                          Balti also did well defending against tall Korean shooters like Hyunjung Lee who would've torched 6'3 pinoy forwards alive and did decent defending tall players in the King Abdullah Cup. Still a bummer because KQ and Tamayo have far surpassed him in personal development, just goes to show that just because someone is NT material(at least for a while) doesn't really mean they're appropriate players for professional clubs.
                          That was years ago.. dunno if Balti is still the same player. Should have fullfilled his contract

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                          • Originally posted by empyreanmaze View Post
                            Balti also did well defending against tall Korean shooters like Hyunjung Lee who would've torched 6'3 pinoy forwards alive and did decent defending tall players in the King Abdullah Cup. Still a bummer because KQ and Tamayo have far surpassed him in personal development, just goes to show that just because someone is NT material(at least for a while) doesn't really mean they're appropriate players for professional clubs.
                            A majority of the time Navarro was the one guarding Hyunjung Lee, Balti worked against European forwards because like coach Tab said, they aren’t as athletic or quick, but he was killed on the perimeter by the DR guys. With his Bleague stint he was a tweener he wasn’t really exceptional in anything and had to play behind imports similar to how he first started at La Salle. If he’d gone to the KBL he would have probably put up stats as well like the other guys are doing right now.

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                            • Originally posted by TheRodster21 View Post

                              A majority of the time Navarro was the one guarding Hyunjung Lee, Balti worked against European forwards because like coach Tab said, they aren’t as athletic or quick, but he was killed on the perimeter by the DR guys. With his Bleague stint he was a tweener he wasn’t really exceptional in anything and had to play behind imports similar to how he first started at La Salle. If he’d gone to the KBL he would have probably put up stats as well like the other guys are doing right now.

                              It would have been a career defining moment for Balti,granted that the KBL is probably a level below the PBA,he will still be recognized as a dominating offense/defense guy.

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                              • Originally posted by empyreanmaze View Post
                                Quiambao ate today, I'm liking how pinoy forwards are just balling in the KBL, it's also nice seeing pinoy forwards finding a place that can maximize them, it's not surprising how well Tamayo and KQ adjusted in a forward-centric league with plenty of local natural 3s and 4s in the 6'6+ range, it's like they just belong there. Kinda sad for Baltazar though, definitely one of the more promising gilas player, I think bro just didn't pursue a kbl career due to language barrier or coachability issue.
                                If KQ can shoot & score like this, such scoring ability may compensate for his suspect defense as a national team material. I'm not really a big fan of KQ but one can't ignore the improvement he gained in the last 2 years in terms of shooting & scoring. And we are talking here of a player who hasn't reached his peak yet. I think KQ is around 24 yrs old & only in his 1st year as a pro. Hope that the improvement KQ will make in the following years would mainly be on the defensive aspect.
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