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  • Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post

    What I'm thinking is this:

    Who would you assign to defend these natural shooting guards in Asia-Oceania basketball?

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    Would you put a KQ to defend any of those guys? Or you would put a Dwight Ramos or Chris Newsome (who are both natural 2-guards) instead? I doubt KQ can keep in step with those guys.
    Yeah, KQ is laterally slow and realistically not a great perimeter defender but if his hypothetical role in Gilas was as a shooter he’d be making up for it on offense while the coach schemes to hide him on defense. He would be a shooter on offense and probably switch to guarding the weaker offensive guy on defense

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    • Originally posted by TheRodster21 View Post

      Yeah, KQ is laterally slow and realistically not a great perimeter defender but if his hypothetical role in Gilas was as a shooter he’d be making up for it on offense while the coach schemes to hide him on defense. He would be a shooter on offense and probably switch to guarding the weaker offensive guy on defense

      Does the KBL have defensive 3 seconds? Last I checked, players being able to lock up another player one-on-one is a mere bonus to FIBA teams that only need to crowd the paint with size and length. If the opposition plays high pick and roll against a 3 or a 2 on a drop coverage (which Chot's teams had no answer for when Norwood retired)... would anyone seriously want Ramos or Newsome in the paint if Kai or JMF go over? That's what KQ's supposed length is for. Not so much him being able to chase a player around... but as either as weakside help or at least try to mess up the big who thinks it's gonna be an easy basket. Abando had a handful of these that resulted in spectacular swats in the KBL. KQ actually had a swipe on the big in this game a few hours ago on a similar action. At least that's why I think he's there and not in some larong labas. The guy just had a bad game but still had 18 points and 8 boards... in the KBL

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      • Duncan Robinson is another somewhat viable comp for KQ. While KQ's length is excellent for our standards, Duncan just upgrades it to NBA standards with his 6'7 height and 7'1 wingspan.

        Physically, they both lack foot speed in the perimeter and lack enough strength for the inside.

        Duncan's limitations on defense is hidden by using him primarily on other shooters. He also does a good job of using footwork, positioning, length and effort to be playable and even start for an NBA team.

        Offensively, he can't dribble much and lacks speed and strength for other shots other than 3s.

        Despite all that, he started for a Heat team that reached the Finals.

        Granted, KQ is not at that level of shooting prowess...in all other areas (in our Asian level) KQs ceiling is much higher.

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        • On issues like how is he going to guard Arakji, Webster, etc one-on-one? That's not how it works.

          Teams always have game plans. When you're against Michael Jordan, not every team will just ask their SG to go ahead and stop MJ. You gameplan for him. It can either be you let him eat but make sure others don't, you "Jordan rules" him, you double-team, defend straight up, etc. Point is, some players require gameplanning.

          It's how Kai/JMF didn't get cooked by quicker opposing bigs, there was a game plan.

          Cross-matching is also not banned. Newsome is allowed to defend RHJ.

          It's not a playground tao-tao game where you're on your own prohibited from using any team strategy.

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          • KQ although slow wont be that much of a liablity cause hes got decent size and is smart. He can rotate properly but he wont ever be a great one on one defender

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              • KQ with 23 pts with 6 minutes left in 3rd quarter, a 30 pt game is looming.

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                • 31 pts with 6 mins to go

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                  • 36 pts for KQ.

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                    • Originally posted by Metta View Post
                      On issues like how is he going to guard Arakji, Webster, etc one-on-one? That's not how it works.

                      Teams always have game plans. When you're against Michael Jordan, not every team will just ask their SG to go ahead and stop MJ. You gameplan for him. It can either be you let him eat but make sure others don't, you "Jordan rules" him, you double-team, defend straight up, etc. Point is, some players require gameplanning.

                      It's how Kai/JMF didn't get cooked by quicker opposing bigs, there was a game plan.

                      Cross-matching is also not banned. Newsome is allowed to defend RHJ.

                      It's not a playground tao-tao game where you're on your own prohibited from using any team strategy.
                      I agree. Just like how are small guards didn't get cooked against tall guards in 2014. Enough prep time and good strategy might help them be competitive. In today's game, there is such a thing as early switch so a mismatched can be minimized is a small guard is defending a big player and vice versa.

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                      • Originally posted by paolylo View Post


                        Does the KBL have defensive 3 seconds? Last I checked, players being able to lock up another player one-on-one is a mere bonus to FIBA teams that only need to crowd the paint with size and length. If the opposition plays high pick and roll against a 3 or a 2 on a drop coverage (which Chot's teams had no answer for when Norwood retired)... would anyone seriously want Ramos or Newsome in the paint if Kai or JMF go over? That's what KQ's supposed length is for. Not so much him being able to chase a player around... but as either as weakside help or at least try to mess up the big who thinks it's gonna be an easy basket. Abando had a handful of these that resulted in spectacular swats in the KBL. KQ actually had a swipe on the big in this game a few hours ago on a similar action. At least that's why I think he's there and not in some larong labas. The guy just had a bad game but still had 18 points and 8 boards... in the KBL
                        You can zoned up the side if the offensive team wants to do a two on two pick and role play.

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                        • Quiambao ate today, I'm liking how pinoy forwards are just balling in the KBL, it's also nice seeing pinoy forwards finding a place that can maximize them, it's not surprising how well Tamayo and KQ adjusted in a forward-centric league with plenty of local natural 3s and 4s in the 6'6+ range, it's like they just belong there. Kinda sad for Baltazar though, definitely one of the more promising gilas player, I think bro just didn't pursue a kbl career due to language barrier or coachability issue.

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                          • Gilas players showing their quality. Kai and dwight in the BLeague. Tamayo and KQ in the KBL. This is our golden generation, we have quality players in the PBA (oftana, JF newsome, brownlee, etc) plus our players in foreign leagues.

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                            • Originally posted by empyreanmaze View Post
                              Quiambao ate today, I'm liking how pinoy forwards are just balling in the KBL, it's also nice seeing pinoy forwards finding a place that can maximize them, it's not surprising how well Tamayo and KQ adjusted in a forward-centric league with plenty of local natural 3s and 4s in the 6'6+ range, it's like they just belong there. Kinda sad for Baltazar though, definitely one of the more promising gilas player, I think bro just didn't pursue a kbl career due to language barrier or coachability issue.
                              No, not a language barrier. He is just not good enough

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                              • Originally posted by deku_midoriya View Post

                                No, not a language barrier. He is just not good enough
                                I think just like JF, Balti is happy and satisfied were he is. JF is still gave alot of foreign teams issue while playing with a repaired shin bone.

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