Filipino Players in Foreign Leagues

[ja.he]

Obviously he’s not a 3D. He is too stocky compared to Abando. I guess they see his lack of handles and think aha like Abando. His lack of handles now is a problem. He is limited to playing as PF. But KBL PFs are taller and stronger than him. He will always be posted up. He can go two ways. Strength/bulk up to defend the post better. But that will limit his passing. Without handles, defenses will pick on his passes as evidenced by his 4/5 TOs.

I think the best way is for him to improve his handles. Good enough to give passes off the dribble and to drive on PFs. He won’t be able to do that if he is bulked up. The first step would be for him to be a driving PF. With this his scoring and passing should offset his disadvantage at the post. He is deadly from 3 as is, developing a 2 dribble move to the paint would be the next step.

If I were him, I will emulate how Draymond Green plays.

[Metta]

People are quick to forget how he was able to play as 2/3 (mostly 2) with SGA. In current form, he can also play as (stretch) 4 in spurts. So basically, depending on team situation/personnel, he can theoretically play 2-4.

He's the modern type of player who can't be pigeonholed.

The vital thing that opened the door for him is that 3 point shot. Without it, his lack of speed can be exploited. Against the very best of defenders, he can be a spot up shooter (like with SGA). If he improves his handles/speed (or if he's against lesser defenders) then he has more to offer. But even if he concentrates on just being a shooter, it won't be that bad. It's something Gilas needs and I think he has potential to be an elite shooter.

On defense, he has to get leaner (wiry strong) and fix his stance. He seems to be a hard worker and has good bbiq so it's not impossible for him to improve his physique and learn about leverage and positioning. From there he just needs more reps.

Funny no one's anal about him being 6'3.75" anymore. Imagine if he can pull off being a 2/3 for us with a 6'10" wingspan. I'd say it's not impossible.

[Mr.PURO]

KQ's still adjusting though with his team. He's good we just need to be patient. Tomorrow they go against Jd's KT Sonicboom, a must watch!

[Silent Killer]

at the half

Daegu KOGAS 44
LG Sakers 38

Belangel 21 pts 3/3 3 pt fg 5 assists 8/10 fg

Tamayo 10 pts 5/8 fg

[Silent Killer]

i catch the game towards the end of 1st half and the time i saw carl guarding SJ, carl keep up against SJ and both times SJ didnt score..

[Silent Killer]

LG sakers won over KOGAS 69-67

Tamayo 14 pts 3 rebounds 3 assists 7/16 FG

Belangel 23 pts 7 assists 9/17 fg 3/6 3 pt fg

Nicholson 23 pts 12 rebounds

[Silent Killer]

i catch the game towards the end of 1st half and the time i saw carl guarding SJ, carl keep up against SJ and both times SJ didnt score..

Fun game..

[paolylo]

People are quick to forget how he was able to play as 2/3 (mostly 2) with SGA. In current form, he can also play as (stretch) 4 in spurts. So basically, depending on team situation/personnel, he can theoretically play 2-4.

He's the modern type of player who can't be pigeonholed.

The vital thing that opened the door for him is that 3 point shot. Without it, his lack of speed can be exploited. Against the very best of defenders, he can be a spot up shooter (like with SGA). If he improves his handles/speed (or if he's against lesser defenders) then he has more to offer. But even if he concentrates on just being a shooter, it won't be that bad. It's something Gilas needs and I think he has potential to be an elite shooter.

On defense, he has to get leaner (wiry strong) and fix his stance. He seems to be a hard worker and has good bbiq so it's not impossible for him to improve his physique and learn about leverage and positioning. From there he just needs more reps.

Funny no one's anal about him being 6'3.75" anymore. Imagine if he can pull off being a 2/3 for us with a 6'10" wingspan. I'd say it's not impossible.

Unfortunately KQ's in a league where positions are still being pigeonholed so I get it why Korean commentators lost their shit when they saw Abando play. KQ is a 2 for Gilas anyway so I can imagine his game now minus those bonehead Jokic-epek plays which won't work now that he's not up against 6'6 bigs anymore. A leaner KQ doesn't mean he'll turn into Abando or even a RenRen Ritualo, it'll just allow him to defend other 2's at this level better.

[zairex]

Unfortunately KQ's in a league where positions are still being pigeonholed so I get it why Korean commentators lost their shit when they saw Abando play. KQ is a 2 for Gilas anyway so I can imagine his game now minus those bonehead Jokic-epek plays which won't work now that he's not up against 6'6 bigs anymore. A leaner KQ doesn't mean he'll turn into Abando or even a RenRen Ritualo, it'll just allow him to defend other 2's at this level better.

How is KQ a guard. I know he can pass, shoot, and dribble but he is not deadly and quick like other guards like Munzon, Winston, and Perez. etc.

[Metta]

Caidic is arguably the best national team SG (JC takes the cake). The triggerman played center until HS. Not much handles and a bit slow. But that shooting guard can shoot.

Prime Klay also didn't handle the ball much and just ran and snaked around screens (just like Rip Hamilton before him).

SGA KQ is the template.

[Rds]

Caidic is arguably the best national team SG (JC takes the cake). The triggerman played center until HS. Not much handles and a bit slow. But that shooting guard can shoot.

Prime Klay also didn't handle the ball much and just ran and snaked around screens (just like Rip Hamilton before him).

SGA KQ is the template.

Klay was great because of two things. He needed only some space for him to shoot his shot. Curry says Klay’s shooting mechanics was the easiest he had seen therefore the most consistent. He didnt dribble much but he shot fast and moved well without the ball. Second was he was also a good defender. He would take the better perimeter players while they hid Curry on the worst guy. There’s a reason though that there aren’t many players like Klay, Rip or Miller. It requires a unique player also a unique system to pull this off. Not sure KQ can pull it off. He is not as quick as Abando off the ball.

[Metta]

Unfortunately KQ's in a league where positions are still being pigeonholed so I get it why Korean commentators lost their shit when they saw Abando play. KQ is a 2 for Gilas anyway so I can imagine his game now minus those bonehead Jokic-epek plays which won't work now that he's not up against 6'6 bigs anymore. A leaner KQ doesn't mean he'll turn into Abando or even a RenRen Ritualo, it'll just allow him to defend other 2's at this level better.

Hopefully, it's just their commentators and arm-chair analysts who are dinosaurs. I have a feeling some of their coaches are Euro-influenced.

Their socmed seems very critical of short players, but teams actually took Cagu, SJ etc. What I notice is that they put a premium on achievement (chips, mvps, finalists, etc). That may mean that they trust that our leagues filter out the best. Even Gutang who may appear like a rando was an mvp in mpbl.

[Metta]

Klay was great because of two things. He needed only some space for him to shoot his shot. Curry says Klay’s shooting mechanics was the easiest he had seen therefore the most consistent. He didnt dribble much but he shot fast and moved well without the ball. Second was he was also a good defender. He would take the better perimeter players while they hid Curry on the worst guy. There’s a reason though that there aren’t many players like Klay, Rip or Miller. It requires a unique player also a unique system to pull this off. Not sure KQ can pull it off. He is not as quick as Abando off the ball.

Dudes were asking how KQ can be a guard, now do an analysis of Caidic along with his shot mechanics.

Watch any nba/euro game...there will be a healthy dose of an SG just standing at the 3-line ready to shoot. Not much required there, probably a shot fake then one to two dribble pull up if defender closes out.

And that's the minimum role scenario he can play...again, the SGA role. If he improves on other facets, then the more he can bring to the table.

And talking of shooting strokes, KQs isn't too bad also. It's smooth and the wingspan helps him not get it blocked.

[TheRodster21]

In a modern basketball context where traditional positions like sf, sg don’t really exist anymore KQ fits a role in the guard context as a stationary shooter or maybe movement shooter when talking about guard\wing roles. It’s really a question of how much of his shooting translates internationally. I agree in that KQ doesn’t really fit any traditional position. To me he’s like Scottie in the sense he’s not really one position but just a basketball player in general.

[JAMSKIE]

I'm not sure about the Allan Caidic at RP-NCC team of the 80's but the Allan Caidic that I saw playing for the RP team in the 1990 & 1994 editions of Asian Games played mostly as a 3 or small forward. Perhaps that could explain why Caidic was very effective playing that role despite his averaged or even below averaged dribbling skills. Of course nobody can question Caidic's long range shooting as his main weapon & he was very very good at that. During the 1990 Asian Games, it was the late Samboy Lim who played as a 2-guard while Caidic played mostly at the 3 spot. During the 1994 Asian Games, Ato Agustin played the 2 spot while Caidic played the 3 spot. Both Samboy & Agustin had decent ball handling skills, hence they compensated for Caidic's deficiency in ball handling. Also, Caidic was at his best in catch-and-shoot & spot up situations, hence Caidic needed not to dribble that much. Even the aging Caidic of the 1998 Centennial team played mostly as a small forward as it was Jolas & Kenneth Duremdes who played mostly at the shooting guard spot.

With regards to KQ, I honestly believe that his natural position for Gilas is the 3 spot. I'm not really a fan of position-less basketball. To me the term "position-less basketball" is more like a hyperbole so as to emphasize the flexibility & versality that modern day basketball players possess nowadays but in reality, there's still a distinction between a center & a power forward or a four, a distinction between a 2-guard/shooting guard & a small forward, etc. I don't think KQ has the mobility & the laterals to stay in front of the natural shooting guards of teams like New Zealand, Australia, Korea, Japan, Lebanon, Iran. I also don't think that KQ's ball handling is good enough for him to play as a 2-guard.