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  • Originally posted by mayfel View Post

    Then, they should not turn professional early. We are seeing now players turn pro before they exhaust their college eligibility like Ramos, Tamayo, Quiambao. However, they play abroad where the salary is higher than the PBA can offer, so the decision is quite easy.

    The decision to leave early to play in the PBA is quite risky since the salary and allowance for top collegiate players are almost the same. But if the PBA will increase their rookie salary, I am sure we will see top collegiate players to play in the PBA after their 2nd or 3rd year in college.
    both Ramos and Quiambao have a college education,a little different from kids leaping to a pro league straight to HS,in the NBA alot of those one and done or sophomore college players drafted continue their education throughout their NBA careers,the even earn Bachelors or Masters.

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    • Originally posted by mayfel View Post

      Then, they should not turn professional early. We are seeing now players turn pro before they exhaust their college eligibility like Ramos, Tamayo, Quiambao. However, they play abroad where the salary is higher than the PBA can offer, so the decision is quite easy.

      The decision to leave early to play in the PBA is quite risky since the salary and allowance for top collegiate players are almost the same. But if the PBA will increase their rookie salary, I am sure we will see top collegiate players to play in the PBA after their 2nd or 3rd year in college.
      My take here is, for young players having superstar potential, just spend 2 yrs in Philippine college then they should turn pro after that. I believe that Quiambao should have turned pro as early as last year. I think he is already ripe for the pros as of last year.

      I think there were college undergrad players who continued their studies & eventually got a bachelor's degree while they were playing in the PBA. This is something they can't do if they play pro ball in Japan or Korea or elsewhere outside the Philippines.
      "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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      • Originally posted by Dotch View Post

        that explains the lack of crowd and the venue looks like a practice gym. Thanks
        iirc dave ildefonso also dominated in that d league

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        • Tamayo Vs. SJ live stream game

          Philippine Malditas to FIFA Womens World Cup 2023

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          • Originally posted by Silent Killer View Post
            85-54 win for LG Sakers

            Belangel 7 pts 6 assists 3/11 fg 1/6 3 pt fg

            Tamayo 17 pts 5 rebs and 3 assists 7/9 fg
            Philippine Malditas to FIFA Womens World Cup 2023

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            • Originally posted by mayfel View Post

              Then, they should not turn professional early. We are seeing now players turn pro before they exhaust their college eligibility like Ramos, Tamayo, Quiambao. However, they play abroad where the salary is higher than the PBA can offer, so the decision is quite easy.

              The decision to leave early to play in the PBA is quite risky since the salary and allowance for top collegiate players are almost the same. But if the PBA will increase their rookie salary, I am sure we will see top collegiate players to play in the PBA after their 2nd or 3rd year in college.
              All three were already 22 or 23 when they left college and that is a ripe age…. For me there should a rule of minimum age to enter PBA draft and it should be 22. And rookie applicants must have a right to withdraw at least 24 hours before draft day. And those undrafted must also have options to return to school to play their remaining eligibility years and of course to complete their studies.

              PBA fans are getting bored watching 25 and 26 years old rookies. PBA is becoming a millennials’ league with only very few Gen Z followers.

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              • Originally posted by Silent Killer View Post

                85-54 win for LG Sakers

                Belangel 7 pts 6 assists 3/11 fg 1/6 3 pt fg

                Tamayo 17 pts 5 rebs and 3 assists 7/9 fg



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                  • Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post

                    My take here is, for young players having superstar potential, just spend 2 yrs in Philippine college then they should turn pro after that. I believe that Quiambao should have turned pro as early as last year. I think he is already ripe for the pros as of last year.

                    I think there were college undergrad players who continued their studies & eventually got a bachelor's degree while they were playing in the PBA. This is something they can't do if they play pro ball in Japan or Korea or elsewhere outside the Philippines.
                    People have to differentiate between getting a "diploma" and getting an actual "education" (with or without a diploma).

                    Majority of "student" athletes stay in school and get a "diploma" but did they truly acquire actionable knowledge? Most just cruise along and do the bare minimum just to get the diploma (and usually a useless course). They're not really prepared for anything other than basketball.

                    If they're not serious about really learning and if it's just for the purpose of getting a diploma, there are plenty of online options with minimal effort and customized schedules. One can do that remotely anywhere in the world.

                    For life after basketball, most of the time these former pros usually have to start from scratch in terms of learning or they just use their capital and partner with those more knowledgeable.

                    Of course there are exceptions. And those guys already have a plan and know what they have to do.

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                    • 74-72 win for LG Sakers

                      20 pts 6 rebounds and 5 assists 9/16 fg
                      Philippine Malditas to FIFA Womens World Cup 2023

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                      • 76-73 win for Daegu Pegasus

                        Belangel 12 pts 5 assists 3 steals
                        Nicholson 31 pts
                        Philippine Malditas to FIFA Womens World Cup 2023

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                        • Originally posted by Silent Killer View Post
                          74-72 win for LG Sakers

                          20 pts 6 rebounds and 5 assists 9/16 fg
                          Carl was 0-3 from three. Hmm.

                          He really needs to work on that to help his usefulness for Gilas; that, or his defense. How is he shooting poorly from three this season?

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                          • Originally posted by IPC View Post

                            Carl was 0-3 from three. Hmm.

                            He really needs to work on that to help his usefulness for Gilas; that, or his defense. How is he shooting poorly from three this season?
                            He actually scored a 3point shot from rainbow country today in the 2nd Quarter with 45 seconds still remaining.


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                            • Originally posted by Sikatrix View Post

                              I dont think they need to be full blooded, just filipino citizens.

                              Afaik previous and current Filipino players who played, considered or recruited by KBL are all Filipino passport holders and with both parents who are natural born or re-acquired Filipino citizenships like Justin Gutang, Gomez de Liano brothers, Carl Tamayo, Rhenz Abando, SJ Belangel, Rhonjay Abarrientos, Ethan Alvano, Christian David, Calvin Epistola, Avan Nava, Dalph Panopio, Dave Ildefonso, Alex Cabagnot,…

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                              • justin gutang is now shooting 38.3% on 3s. that was his biggest weakness before, being a terrible shooter. if he can sustain this he can be a good gilas player, international-sized athletic defensive guard with playmaking abilities. might be the future newsome replacement we're looking for


                                Originally posted by FilWelsh View Post


                                Afaik previous and current Filipino players who played, considered or recruited by KBL are all Filipino passport holders and with both parents who are natural born or re-acquired Filipino citizenships like Justin Gutang, Gomez de Liano brothers, Carl Tamayo, Rhenz Abando, SJ Belangel, Rhonjay Abarrientos, Ethan Alvano, Christian David, Calvin Epistola, Avan Nava, Dalph Panopio, Dave Ildefonso, Alex Cabagnot,…
                                i believe the parents can also be naturalized citizens. that was the knack on robert bolick, the kbl blogger mentioned he would be eligible in the kbl if his american father acquires a ph passport

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