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  • So if Kai is a quarter of an inch below 7-foot-3 on barefoot & his wingspan is that of a 7-foot-3 player, he is taller than China's Zhou Qi who is listed as 7-foot-1, right? Zhou Qi's wingspan however is said to be that of a 7-foot-5.
    "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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    • There must be an updated wingspan somewhere but nevet got out

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      • To have a wingspan the same as one's height is perfectly normal and expected for a human. It is not a defect. Arms substantially longer than height is a normal trait of apes and monkeys.

        Longer arms are good for climbing trees for a living. It might be nice for basketball-loving genetically evolved humans in 5424 to have ten-foot arms. Let us see what a mere wembanya or steph curry can do against them.

        So you might get your basketball desire right, but your modern human anthropometry standards wrong.
        Last edited by ccharmed; 08-26-2024, 01:38 AM.

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        • Originally posted by TheRodster21 View Post

          I agree with you but I just wanted to point out while his height to wingspan ratio isnt exceptional if we compare it to centers and forwards in the nba regardless of height it’s actually average since average wingspan of nba Center is around 7’3

          https://www.draftexpress.com/average...ombine/all/60/
          Yes, that's fair. Although, the average height on the list is 6'9 without shoes and 6'11 with shoes, with an average wingspan of 7'3. This means it would be normal for someone to have a wingspan of 7'3 if they are 6'9 to 6'11. However, in Kai's case, his height is 7'2.75 without shoes, which means that his 7'3 wingspan, as mentioned by SilentKiller, is not ideal for his height.​
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          • Originally posted by ccharmed View Post
            To have a wingspan the same as one's height is perfectly normal and expected for a human. Arms substantially longer than height is a normal trait of apes and monkeys.

            Longer arms are good for climbing trees for a living.

            So you might get your basketball desire right, but your modern human anthropometry standards wrong.
            It is normal, but for someone who is exceptional like an athlete / pro baller, having longer wingspan is ideal.

            If you look at the list, from PG to C the average wingspan regardess of height has an increase of 3-5 inches from their height.

            So yeah, its really normal to have a wingspan the same as height, but based on the the list, the normal (or the average) for an athlete / basketball player is having 3-5 more inches from their height.

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            • Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post
              So if Kai is a quarter of an inch below 7-foot-3 on barefoot & his wingspan is that of a 7-foot-3 player, he is taller than China's Zhou Qi who is listed as 7-foot-1, right? Zhou Qi's wingspan however is said to be that of a 7-foot-5.
              Yes, that's why if you watch their matchup, even though Kai is taller by 2-3 inches, it just looks like they are equal when both of them are defending each other.

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              • Originally posted by lem0nadi View Post

                Yes, that's why if you watch their matchup, even though Kai is taller by 2-3 inches, it just looks like they are equal when both of them are defending each other.
                Kai's wingspan is 7'5 while Zhou Qi's is 7'7'3/4. That's a big difference. Zhou Qi was a pretty good blocker in the summer league games. I remember he was not too bad in the NBA. But he was going to be a role player. Maybe he was homesick or wanted to be a star like Yao Ming. But he definitely could have had a decent role player career in the NBA if he wanted it.

                Even Gobert, the best rim deterrent in the NBA, is a shade below 7'1 without shoes. But his 7'9 wingspan makes it hard to score over him.

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                • Originally posted by Rds View Post

                  Kai's wingspan is 7'5 while Zhou Qi's is 7'7'3/4. That's a big difference. Zhou Qi was a pretty good blocker in the summer league games. I remember he was not too bad in the NBA. But he was going to be a role player. Maybe he was homesick or wanted to be a star like Yao Ming. But he definitely could have had a decent role player career in the NBA if he wanted it.

                  Even Gobert, the best rim deterrent in the NBA, is a shade below 7'1 without shoes. But his 7'9 wingspan makes it hard to score over him.
                  Not just wingspan. He's got good instincts and timing that you cannot teach. And he's mobile enough not to get beat badly that he won't be able to catch. There are tons of players with better measurables than him that amounted to nothing. *Cough Bamba cough Wiseman etc

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                  • Jack Animam signed a new contract with Romanian side Baschet Arad.

                    The club is one of the most successful basketball clubs in Romanian women's basketball with 9 National Leagues and 2 Romanian Cups.​

                    https://www.instagram.com/p/C_La9JEtaWW/

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                    • Dalph Panopio might spend time in KBL Div 2 as his team deemed there's still much Dalph is lacking. This is DP's first pro contract so its understandable. Gutang and Ildefonso also spent time in Div 2 but the 2 have different results.

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                      • This maniacal attention to "wingspan" has really floored me. The science and common sense attachment behind it is easily lost.

                        First, broad shoulders would be very typical in sports that create them like swimming and weightlifting. Kai still has a lanky frame untypical of those ballers who lift serious weights for years like a prime shaq or lebron james. Lifting heavy weights or swimming can easily add at least 2 inches to kai's wingspan, as it expands shoulder length over several years.

                        Second, standing reach is the more important metric for ballers as it removes the useless added inches from shoulder length. For blocking ability, standing reach plus explosive quickness and vertical jump height are relevant. I seriously doubt gobert has standing reach, quickness and jump elevation higher than kai's to easily block him.

                        Some of these tall guys will visit the philippines someday for some fiba world events. Then, pinoy reporters can ask gobert or some other 7footers to reach for the ring, or hold a ball outwards. Then you see all that meaningless shoulder length impact disappear.

                        For defense, as in stealing and interception, an arm's length, plus quickness in reaching WHILE crouching, is relevant.

                        I understand that many ordinary folks are fascinated by "wingspan", as there are lots of very tall ballers and their photos with arms spread out that will amaze mere 5 footers and reporters with their short, short arms.

                        Check out with some legit sports science grads, so you can check that vertical reach and arm's length -- which are not the same as wingspan -- together with high athleticism metrics like quickness, sprinting and jumping abilities are factually and mathematically explanations of good baller results. You can even use linear regression analytics to get the right answers and explanatory variables. Like intelligence and smartness being different concepts.

                        My height and reach didnt change, but my shoulders did broaden my "wingspan" when i gave more hours to lifting weights and swimming when i was young. I am sure that others will have similar experience.

                        Finally, if you watched prime shaq, you could have seen that many seven foot defenders cant really block or stop his shots because the sheer power, quickness and weight of shaq pushed them out and away. Their wingspan never mattered. Junmar also pounds those punk and puny centers and forwards inside, and their wingspans might be the same as broken wings of a bird.
                        Last edited by ccharmed; 09-06-2024, 03:00 AM.

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                        • Sakto you mentioned wingspan, as Korean scouts watching KQ were not slighted with his actual height. He's much shorter than his listed height of 6'6. and scouts said he's closer to 6'4 but his impressive wingspan at 6'8 more than make up for his "shorter" stature. He plays similar to Peace Choi they said.

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                          • for me personally,

                            good lateral footwork and sense of timing to anticipate where the ball and fully aware the position of the offensive player are the things I am looking for a player(s)

                            having an above average wingspan is a just a mere bonus not a necessity

                            that is why it is highly recommended to any grassroot program to put premium not only the ball handling skills but also those stuff that I've mentioned

                            realistically it's very difficult and quite a challenge if an aspiring player(s) is a late bloomer unless he/she already had an innate personality and the driving force to do it

                            also a good factor is how the mentor or skills coach motivates and inspire his pupil(s) to embrace such philosophy while in the young age

                            we can discuss the storyline about "the benefits of having a longer wingspan" until kingdom come but it always boil down to the basic foundation

                            I totally agree on Sir ccharmed about Swimming and it's benefits to all aspiring players who wants to become the next elite

                            also aside from weightlifting I would also want to add the benefits of football or soccer as the other medium

                            I use to do some basic stuff on swimming, weights, soccer during my early days and the benefits for me during those mere recreational "ice tubig" moments.

                            what more on all those aspirant.

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                            • KQ's like 6'5, he's slightly taller than dwight

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                              • Originally posted by xenoloxy View Post
                                KQ's like 6'5, he's slightly taller than dwight
                                He seems have long arms which is more important. Like pingris

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