Filipino Players in Foreign Leagues

[Silent Killer]

another good game from korean killer

[Metta]

Korean Killer is such a bad nickname.

Not only will it alienate the korean fans and potentially affect his marketability, it will also give motivation to their Distrito-type of players to try and put him in his place. And make no mistake, Koreans are a proud people.

How would it slide if there's a foreign player in the pba called the Pinoy Killer. It's just not well-thought out.

[magic_chiongson]

Korean Killer is such a bad nickname.

Not only will it alienate the korean fans and potentially affect his marketability, it will also give motivation to their Distrito-type of players to try and put him in his place. And make no mistake, Koreans are a proud people.

How would it slide if there's a foreign player in the pba called the Pinoy Killer. It's just not well-thought out.

korean twitter is calling him KNT-killer, not korean killer. i see your point tho

[bluenote49]

typical pinoy mentality of wanting minutes without earning them over black and white dudes in nbl with significant d1 and professional experience.

kai panungkit:d

[ARMIR]

Korean Killer is such a bad nickname.

Not only will it alienate the korean fans and potentially affect his marketability, it will also give motivation to their Distrito-type of players to try and put him in his place. And make no mistake, Koreans are a proud people.

How would it slide if there's a foreign player in the pba called the Pinoy Killer. It's just not well-thought out.

Pinoy fans like those moniker,like Pacman known as a "Latino Killer",there's also a couple of Thai and Indon boxers who are known as "Pinoy Killers",for beating up dozens of so and so Pinoy boxers.

[Metta]

Pinoy fans like those moniker,like Pacman known as a "Latino Killer",there's also a couple of Thai and Indon boxers who are known as "Pinoy Killers",for beating up dozens of so and so Pinoy boxers.

It's totally fine in fight sports...like Latino killer, Gracie killer, etc...because they're in the business of fighting.

And more importantly, they're not in a "domestic" league. SJ is a foreign player in Korea and he's getting called "the Korean Killer." It's just dumb and puts SJ in a sticky situation. Much better to just be called something like Filipino Assassin.

[Rds]

It's totally fine in fight sports...like Latino killer, Gracie killer, etc...because they're in the business of fighting.

And more importantly, they're not in a "domestic" league. SJ is a foreign player in Korea and he's getting called "the Korean Killer." It's just dumb and puts SJ in a sticky situation. Much better to just be called something like Filipino Assassin.

Yes he seems lighter and quicker. I also noticed this a bit with Dave. Maybe its the physicality of the PH game that made it necessary for SJ to bulkier. His scoring at the KBL level is a bit surprising for me. How is his scoring compared to RJ last year? Maybe he’ll put himself in position for a better paycheck in B league. SJ was a scorer in HS btw. He had a 99 pt game. He adjusted his game probably for Ateneos system. Now he is adjusting to the KBL.

[Metta]

Yes he seems lighter and quicker. I also noticed this a bit with Dave. Maybe its the physicality of the PH game that made it necessary for SJ to bulkier. His scoring at the KBL level is a bit surprising for me. How is his scoring compared to RJ last year? Maybe he’ll put himself in position for a better paycheck in B league. SJ was a scorer in HS btw. He had a 99 pt game. He adjusted his game probably for Ateneos system. Now he is adjusting to the KBL.

It's been evident with a few players now...Ravena, SJ, Tio, Mamu and soon Padrigao. ADMU players are pro-ready. The guards especially are trained to think the game. Being used to playing within a system is an advantage when adjusting to the pro game. It won't be surprising if they feel that their current pro life is easier than when it was in college, especially if you add the going to classes factor.

Philippine basketball definitely requires its players to bulk up. Having evasive agility (light and fast) is useless because bumping and holding is allowed. Strength and mass (thicker) is more useful.

[ARMIR]

It's totally fine in fight sports...like Latino killer, Gracie killer, etc...because they're in the business of fighting.

And more importantly, they're not in a "domestic" league. SJ is a foreign player in Korea and he's getting called "the Korean Killer." It's just dumb and puts SJ in a sticky situation. Much better to just be called something like Filipino Assassin.

Its a cultural habit,from the time you learned Philippine History,Lapu-Lapu knonws as the first Pinoy "Spanish Killer",somehow same Philippine History skipped the part that Lapu-Lapu was nothing but a hired Indonesian Unglaut,a professional squatter as far as Humabon was concerned.Nonetheless its no excuse to use monikers that foreigners will find offensive in their own land.

[bluenote49]

Its a cultural habit,from the time you learned Philippine History,Lapu-Lapu knonws as the first Pinoy "Spanish Killer",somehow same Philippine History skipped the part that Lapu-Lapu was nothing but a hired Indonesian Unglaut,a professional squatter as far as Humabon was concerned.Nonetheless its no excuse to use monikers that foreigners will find offensive in their own land.

OT

It's unfortunate that our standard for a national hero is pretty low. Why didn't the lord bless us with a genius scientist who did something not just for PH but also for the world? If Spain hadn't arrived we'd probably be a communist country or worse Africasia.

[Rds]

OT

It's unfortunate that our standard for a national hero is pretty low. Why didn't the lord bless us with a genius scientist who did something not just for PH but also for the world? If Spain hadn't arrived we'd probably be a communist country or worse Africasia.

I heard these things about Lapulapu. Do you have a reference for this? You know Lapulapu and his group showed mercy to the Spanish despite their ill intentions. I am grateful for them for giving us that one victory in a series of Ls starting from the Spanish return up to the US and Japanese occupation and current encroachment of China in the WPS. I wouldve told Lapulapu to not allow the single ship Victoria to return because they would bring back the invaders.

Without a route back to us it wouldve taken the Spanish a hundred years or more to come back. Given that it took them around 50 years to send an invasion expedition. That time would have allowed our separate Sultanates and barangays to grow stronger and even have friendly relations with each other like Malaysias. The Dutch or British might have eventually invaded us but like Malaysia and Indonesia they would not have been able to erase our culture and political organizations. We would have a distinct identity and vibrant history beyond our colonizers.

Lapulapu, foreign mercenary or not, was our only victorious hero. He was probably being kind by letting one of the 6 Spanish ships return. But that act of kindness sealed our fate us a people. The Spanish colonization was one of the worst IMO. A thousand Spanish able to colonize probably a few hundreds of thousands. Leaving us genetically generally still the same but erasing our culture and history. At least the South Americans were mostly supplanted by the Spanish and Portuguese just like the Brits and French supplanted North America. But us, most of us still look closer like our Malay neighbors than our Spanish former colonizers and yet our pre-Spanish identity entirely erased with barely artifacts left to even recreate it. Even our national language, Tagalog, would not be intelligible to our pre Spanish ancestors in that its structure is already vastly different from our neigbors despite sharing similar word pool.

If we were not invaded by Spanish we wouldve had a stronger sense of identity and pride. Just like Indonesia or Vietnam we wouldve not allowed China on our part of the seas.

[Metta]

To make this topic basketball related...

Our penchant for moral victories. Happens until now when it comes to our international sports performance.

Goals are so low because of lack of will and patience to aim higher.

Notice that a lot of countries good at team sports (USA, Germany, Japan) were pretty good at warfare. Sports and war have a lot of similar characteristics needed.

[greenarcher]

I heard these things about Lapulapu. Do you have a reference for this? You know Lapulapu and his group showed mercy to the Spanish despite their ill intentions. I am grateful for them for giving us that one victory in a series of Ls starting from the Spanish return up to the US and Japanese occupation and current encroachment of China in the WPS. I wouldve told Lapulapu to not allow the single ship Victoria to return because they would bring back the invaders.

Without a route back to us it wouldve taken the Spanish a hundred years or more to come back. Given that it took them around 50 years to send an invasion expedition. That time would have allowed our separate Sultanates and barangays to grow stronger and even have friendly relations with each other like Malaysias. The Dutch or British might have eventually invaded us but like Malaysia and Indonesia they would not have been able to erase our culture and political organizations. We would have a distinct identity and vibrant history beyond our colonizers.

Lapulapu, foreign mercenary or not, was our only victorious hero. He was probably being kind by letting one of the 6 Spanish ships return. But that act of kindness sealed our fate us a people. The Spanish colonization was one of the worst IMO. A thousand Spanish able to colonize probably a few hundreds of thousands. Leaving us genetically generally still the same but erasing our culture and history. At least the South Americans were mostly supplanted by the Spanish and Portuguese just like the Brits and French supplanted North America. But us, most of us still look closer like our Malay neighbors than our Spanish former colonizers and yet our pre-Spanish identity entirely erased with barely artifacts left to even recreate it. Even our national language, Tagalog, would not be intelligible to our pre Spanish ancestors in that its structure is already vastly different from our neigbors despite sharing similar word pool.

If we were not invaded by Spanish we wouldve had a stronger sense of identity and pride. Just like Indonesia or Vietnam we wouldve not allowed China on our part of the seas.

Vietnam was able to retain their identity, nationalism and culture despite being colonized by France.

So being colonized is not the main factor. Maybe we are just not a patriotic race to begin with. LOL

I read somewhere that we are a "family first" society which is why "public servants" and politicians always prioritize family over country.

[Metta]

Vietnam was able to retain their identity, nationalism and culture despite being colonized by France.

So being colonized is not the main factor. Maybe we are just not a patriotic race to begin with. LOL

I read somewhere that we are a "family first" society which is why "public servants" and politicians always prioritize family over country.

Unlike other countries who were already unified kingdoms before being colonized, there was really no Philippines yet when the Spaniards arrived. We were still just a collection of city-states.

People forget that Mindanao and the northern Luzon mountain provinces' cultures were relatively preserved and pretty much left autonomous.

We are tribal. We never got to have that unifying moment pre-colonization. Then during colonization, tribal divisions were used by the Spaniards and Americans to divide and conquer.

[KoolAid]

Just curious, If this could be KQ last season in the UAAP. Where do you think he'll play? KBL? BL? PBA?. Me personally he might not be good for the BL since he's too small to play as a PF vs US imports in Japan (might get Tamayo'd). I'm curious how well his gonna do in KBL tho. (If he signs there)