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  • Originally posted by greenarcher View Post
    Why was Bolick DNP? Adams too.

    Keifer can't even dominate B2. LOL
    I hope it's nothing serious. Bollick played well in his debut game but sat out the 4th quarter.

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    • Originally posted by r1ck View Post
      I really think Tamayo has tons of potential and he can develop into a Luis Scola type of player for the national team. Tamayo and Scola have similar traits wherein both arent that tall and athletic but they can score from the post or the perimeter.
      Tamayo is ultra-competitive (ayaw magpatalo). He's got that dog in him. All his coaches recognize it sooner or later, his Bleague coach probably saw it.

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      • Avan Nava KBL debut highlights

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        • Not so much the obsession of a casual fan with a player's stats as having game-ready players regardless of their role.

          For context, a PBA superstar would play at least 33 games a year doing 30-38 minutes a game (12-minute quarters) depending on the conference... definitely way more games if their teams make the finals each conference. A Pinoy B-League starter (both Ravenas, Ramos, Wright, and hopefully Edu) can play maybe 54 games a year give or take playing 26-ish minutes a game (10-minute quarters)... the Emperor's Cup competitions and preseason add just a few games more. Bonus nalang for Abando, Tamayo, and the more-useful ones at Meralco and TNT with EASL games.

          Everyone else accepts being a role player even if it means shock-trooper like Tamayo before that breakout game. At least Parks, Sotto, Abando, even Bolick and Juan GDL should probably have bigger roles on their teams... but it beats being the third guy off the bench on a big PBA team.

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          • Not the topic here but KG Canaleta was offered a Euro contract at 8x the rookie salary in the PBA and chose the PBA back in 06-07. Massive what if?

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            • Originally posted by Sikatrix View Post
              Not the topic here but KG Canaleta was offered a Euro contract at 8x the rookie salary in the PBA and chose the PBA back in 06-07. Massive what if?

              https://youtu.be/Hu648sjO8P8?si=--lngdfOKli9tzTX
              Rico M: ang ta*** mo KG,

              hehehe, if only KG got good advice back then, massive what if indeed, and w/o socmed making things toxic, he could have achieved what Kobe, Kai et al didnt achieve.
              Last edited by CoJ; 10-11-2023, 01:00 AM.

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              • Originally posted by Sikatrix View Post
                Not the topic here but KG Canaleta was offered a Euro contract at 8x the rookie salary in the PBA and chose the PBA back in 06-07. Massive what if?

                https://youtu.be/Hu648sjO8P8?si=--lngdfOKli9tzTX
                The conversation they had illustrates the differences in mentality. JJ who grew up in the US is all for keeping your options open and not meddling in how other guys handle their business. He had to explain to Rico before his friend realized that there could indeed be plenty of other valid reasons why a player goes out of the grain.

                Then KG...when he got that euro offer, he admitted he was from the province who wasn't really thinking that those overseas stuff is realistic. He put a "ceiling" on himself on what he can achieve.

                Pinoys are conditioned to accept things and always be grateful for what we are given. We got to go beyond that mindset and seek to know one's worth. It's exactly why we have very capable people who remain employees instead of becoming business owners.

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                • Originally posted by Metta View Post

                  The conversation they had illustrates the differences in mentality. JJ who grew up in the US is all for keeping your options open and not meddling in how other guys handle their business. He had to explain to Rico before his friend realized that there could indeed be plenty of other valid reasons why a player goes out of the grain.

                  Then KG...when he got that euro offer, he admitted he was from the province who wasn't really thinking that those overseas stuff is realistic. He put a "ceiling" on himself on what he can achieve.

                  Pinoys are conditioned to accept things and always be grateful for what we are given. We got to go beyond that mindset and seek to know one's worth. It's exactly why we have very capable people who remain employees instead of becoming business owners.
                  Sayang kg was so laid back even in ue that he will play if you play him 10 , 5 or 40 minutes...and in euro he wouldnt even need to slash the hoop (whic is the knack on kg's game)
                  To becomes Asia's Best, we need to compete against the World's Best..
                  1 Big 4 small > 5 out offense.

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                  • Originally posted by Metta View Post

                    The conversation they had illustrates the differences in mentality. JJ who grew up in the US is all for keeping your options open and not meddling in how other guys handle their business. He had to explain to Rico before his friend realized that there could indeed be plenty of other valid reasons why a player goes out of the grain.

                    Then KG...when he got that euro offer, he admitted he was from the province who wasn't really thinking that those overseas stuff is realistic. He put a "ceiling" on himself on what he can achieve.

                    Pinoys are conditioned to accept things and always be grateful for what we are given. We got to go beyond that mindset and seek to know one's worth. It's exactly why we have very capable people who remain employees instead of becoming business owners.
                    KG really had potential. He was a slam dunk king for years then he was a scoring role player for several years. He even became an import in Taiwan. Yup we wouldve been looking at a different KG now. My guess is he wouldve been able to develop offensively earlier and his defense would have been better.

                    Come to think of it KG would've been better internationally. His lanky body was not made for the PBA. He would've been able to maximize his gifts in Europe.

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                    • Originally posted by Rds View Post

                      KG really had potential. He was a slam dunk king for years then he was a scoring role player for several years. He even became an import in Taiwan. Yup we wouldve been looking at a different KG now. My guess is he wouldve been able to develop offensively earlier and his defense would have been better.

                      Come to think of it KG would've been better internationally. His lanky body was not made for the PBA. He would've been able to maximize his gifts in Europe.
                      KG would've developed his guard/wing skills better if he played with FSA's during his college days. He was already in the PBA when he was playing 4/3 positions which is late in development. IMO

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                      • Originally posted by Rds View Post

                        KG really had potential. He was a slam dunk king for years then he was a scoring role player for several years. He even became an import in Taiwan. Yup we wouldve been looking at a different KG now. My guess is he wouldve been able to develop offensively earlier and his defense would have been better.

                        Come to think of it KG would've been better internationally. His lanky body was not made for the PBA. He would've been able to maximize his gifts in Europe.
                        KG, Papa Rey, Intal had the same problems despite their height , shooting and verticals. Lack of handles, BBIQ and aggressiveness. Kobe might be the same type of player. Thank God Rhenz seems to be a lot more aggressive nad has a higher BBIQ

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                        • Originally posted by Rds View Post

                          KG really had potential. He was a slam dunk king for years then he was a scoring role player for several years. He even became an import in Taiwan. Yup we wouldve been looking at a different KG now. My guess is he wouldve been able to develop offensively earlier and his defense would have been better.

                          Come to think of it KG would've been better internationally. His lanky body was not made for the PBA. He would've been able to maximize his gifts in Europe.
                          KG's story happens frequently, especially to guys from the provinces or from humble beginnings. Teams/schools always use the "loyalty" or "utang na loob" card on them to condition them into not seeking their true worth. Would not be surprised if people around him at that time discouraged him. Just like during that interview where some guys were telling Bates to take the offer instead of doing something to possibly get more. Take the "safe" route they say instead of betting on himself.

                          Helterbrand is the only one who understands the concept of "you gotta do you." Not forgetting one's beginnings is a valuable trait. But when it comes to taking care of you and your family, no one else will care more than you.

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                          • Originally posted by thatweirdguy View Post

                            KG, Papa Rey, Intal had the same problems despite their height , shooting and verticals. Lack of handles, BBIQ and aggressiveness. Kobe might be the same type of player. Thank God Rhenz seems to be a lot more aggressive nad has a higher BBIQ
                            They were born in the wrong era.

                            Fortunately, now there are so many players like them. The generation of kids who learned how to do plyometrics and proper athleticism training are now coming of age...Bayla, Gemao, Cholo, etc. Dunking is not that uncommon anymore. Most guys of top school teams can dunk now, the "physical" style of defense is the only thing preventing them from doing it in game (one has to be extra careful).

                            And the good thing is, they were also taught other skills like dribbling.

                            Now the next step is teaching those work-out techniques to young (pre-teen) 6'6+ kids.

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                            • Dwight Ramos 2.0

                              Philippine Malditas to FIFA Womens World Cup 2023

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                              • Originally posted by Silent Killer View Post
                                Dwight Ramos 2.0

                                He looks taller?

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