Filipino Players in Foreign Leagues

[ja.he]

after the 1998 asian games, the korean coach mentioned that filipinos play basketball with one foot, boy its still our waterloo

because we always put emphasis more on offense than defense. only my opinion but it seems to me that our concept of defense is just limited to blocks and steals.

[Sikatrix]

Actually I'm familiar with this area, it's not that the visa officer will make the assessment on his own, but he will consult subject matter experts, and based on that Lopez will surely fail criteria ..

I've actually been involved in similar situations previously.
It is a real thing process , when an applicant claims he is an expert in a particular field (e.g . Medicine), there are subject matter experts to consult as well as certified qualifications ( for basketball it could litterarally be endorsement verification from a US Div 1 program)

The principle is the same , one essentially has to of a level thst cannot be filled by local employment. Which is not true for Lopez, there are many Americans who can fil role

G league is different in that jt's affiliated to the NBA , so is a certified endorsement

Its not just basketball skills we are talking about. As an entertainer, Lopez opens a market no American can.

[Linusports]

https://youtube.com/watch?v=tfxTsskTQ_Q&feature=shares

The same words again, " perimeter defense latteral, vs hyper active athletes " it's a real thing , a real weakness in Philippines, not just being nit picking.

Seems you tend to agree more and more on yourself...
Which country you from brother?

[IPC]

Yes, it is, esp for bigs. But you don’t use Amos as example as his case is more of genetics rather than poor development. Bear in mind he developed his game outside of the Philippines.

The primary culprits for poor laterals for Pinoy cagers are our penchant to zone and the scarcity of perimeter oriented bigs. Bigs are often reduced to paint dwellers. Hope the current trend (premium on versatility/switchability) changes that.

As a smaller people, we can't really have our best bigs be paint dwellers unless they're the height of Japeth and June Mar. Ideally, the best 6'6"-6'8" bigs (on defense, at least) should be more versatile and can cover more ground. We need to be trending towards that direction.

[TheRodster21]

As a smaller people, we can't really have our best bigs be paint dwellers unless they're the height of Japeth and June Mar. Ideally, the best 6'6"-6'8" bigs (on defense, at least) should be more versatile and can cover more ground. We need to be trending towards that direction.

This is why I think it would be better if imports were allowed in high school. Guys like Japheth, Paras, Lopez, even Kai we’re more physically gifted and stood out too much compared to the rest that they didn’t have to develop certain skills or developed bad habits because they could dominate. Having imports might hinder development of certain players but increase the level of competition and make the gifted players develop their games more at a faster rate, I mean it’s realistically 4 years of important development sometimes 5 before they get to higher competition in college.

[IPC]

because we always put emphasis more on offense than defense. only my opinion but it seems to me that our concept of defense is just limited to blocks and steals.

And as I see, we don't have many tall, long defenders at the wing, just Gabe and Navarro so far. It's just guards like Barroca, Sol Mercado, Ross, and 6'2"-6'3" wings like Abueva, Pogoy, Rome dela Rosa, and Marcio in his prime. The bigs are most often limited to the paint, as NOiNU observed, instead of being switchable and versatile, despite many ranging from 6'5" to 6'6", with a few 6'7"-6'8" guys.

UP, Ateneo, Ginebra, Mags, MERALCO, and NU have solid defenses, though, that can translate internationally. And most of them are top teams.

[IPC]

This is why I think it would be better if imports were allowed in high school. Guys like Japheth, Paras, Lopez, even Kai we’re more physically gifted and stood out too much compared to the rest that they didn’t have to develop certain skills or developed bad habits because they could dominate. Having imports might hinder development of certain players but increase the level of competition and make the gifted players develop their games more at a faster rate, I mean it’s realistically 4 years of important development sometimes 5 before they get to higher competition in college.

I think they are, based on what I've read here (correct me if I'm wrong), but it's not common practice.

[IPC]

This is why I think it would be better if imports were allowed in high school. Guys like Japheth, Paras, Lopez, even Kai we’re more physically gifted and stood out too much compared to the rest that they didn’t have to develop certain skills or developed bad habits because they could dominate. Having imports might hinder development of certain players but increase the level of competition and make the gifted players develop their games more at a faster rate, I mean it’s realistically 4 years of important development sometimes 5 before they get to higher competition in college.

I think nga that in the college and HS level, either you should play traditional ball, but with a big import, or you go All-Filipino, but the best lineup is a 5-small (1,2,3) lineup if you don't have a player standing above 6'6", and a 5 guards if you don't have a player standing above 6'4". If you go with 5 smalls, gang rebounding and boxing out should still be emphasized, although they could be weaker.

Anyhow, regardless of the lineup, if a player stands 6'5" and above and has the mobility, he should be allowed to develop his ability and mobility from the perimeter and have a beefier, "lower-upside" guy man the 5, and if necessary, the 4, something that C2Hamm mentioned to me some time ago in a reply.

[Yessuh29]

This is why I think it would be better if imports were allowed in high school. Guys like Japheth, Paras, Lopez, even Kai we?re more physically gifted and stood out too much compared to the rest that they didn?t have to develop certain skills or developed bad habits because they could dominate. Having imports might hinder development of certain players but increase the level of competition and make the gifted players develop their games more at a faster rate, I mean it?s realistically 4 years of important development sometimes 5 before they get to higher competition in college.

Well if we allow imports in HS, might as well let those imports apply for FIBA exemption since they have been staying in the country since they were teenagers.

[Rds]

Strong group just got defeated by a pretty tall Lebanese team with decent guards. Kouame's absence is really glaring here. Balkman cannot score inside. Only Shabazz is a scoring threat so they can hone in on the shooters. Good thing the team is already in the quarters.

[DAdmiral]

Question does Lebanon have better "eligible " guards than Philippines?

[Giannis34GOD]

Question does Lebanon have better "eligible " guards than Philippines?

I guess you didn't know or notice Arakji, MVP of last 2022 FIBA Asia, who beat your NZL consistently.... He's the best "Asian" player as of now...

[DAdmiral]

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Not answering the question

That's just referring to FIBA recent competition.
Everyone accepts and knows Arakji regardless of FIBA play is not better
Than Oceania guards , Giddey, Mills, Green Daniels,Webster bros, (Corey is the 2nd leading scorer in 2019 WC) LeAfa , this is very well accepted.
Arakji cannot secure an NBA or Euro league div 1 offer as proof.

But the question was serious, as the Lebanon guard vs Strong team (if eligible) looked good

[ja.he]

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Not answering the question

That's just referring to FIBA recent competition.
Everyone accepts and knows Akraji regardless of FIBA play is not better
Than Oceania guards , Giddey, Mills, Green Daniels,Webster bros, (Corey is the 2nd leading scorer in 2019 WC) LeAfa , this is very well accepted.
Akraji cannot secure an NBA or Euro league div 1 offer as proof.

But the question was serious, as the Lebanon guard vs Strong team (if eligible) looked good

I don't think so. Lebanese are just playing with more cohesion.

[DAdmiral]

I don't think so. Lebanese are just playing with more cohesion.

You mean Thompson, Kiefer , Bolick are better than Arakji and company?