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  • PER or whatever stats becomes quite irrelevant in terms of making the NBA as a free agent ( not as draft pick like next stars) when you consider MVP level players like Cotton , Cooks, Landale etc etc is really the bench mark to make the NBA as a free agent regular roster pick up.

    There is no amount of advance stats one can use to convince NBA GM's or coaches that a bench player in the NBL is as good a FA prospect as MVP candidates, this is simple basketball analysis.

    let's be accurate , you can use advance stats or PER to argue that Kai is actually better than what some are suggesting or better than a normal bench player. but to use them to arrive with the conclusion that he is of the level as MVP candidates which is the bench mark to be offered a full roster spot is plain and simple exaggeration . ( let's be real , it all about accuracy )

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    • Originally posted by DAdmiral View Post
      PER or whatever stats becomes quite irrelevant in terms of making the NBA as a free agent ( not as draft pick like next stars) when you consider MVP level players like Cotton , Cooks, Landale etc etc is really the bench mark to make the NBA as a free agent regular roster pick up.

      There is no amount of advance stats one can use to convince NBA GM's or coaches that a bench player in the NBL is as good a FA prospect as MVP candidates, this is simple basketball analysis.
      Last year you're using advance stats against Kai. Now that he had a good advance stats, suddenly it's not relevant? Just shut up dude, you're not making any sense.

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      • Originally posted by amabeast View Post
        Last year you're using advance stats against Kai. Now that he had a good advance stats, suddenly it's not relevant? Just shut up dude, you're not making any sense.
        Hello , use of PER (advance stats) becomes off , when one is using to argue that to exaggerate that Kai is potential NBA FA prospect ( that's what people are doing , and the point .
        It's the exaggeration! How simple is that to understand.

        Unless a NBL player is all NBL team level (which Kai is NOT) there really is no conversation for a NBA FA regular roster offer. (Not rocket science)

        That's been the problem ever since with exaggeration, people find a positive and automatically translate it to mean something overly exaggereted
        Comprehend things before you comment.

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        • Originally posted by Mabalos
          Comprehend and understand Admiral's point on PER, if you're an NBA prospect PER is crucial since NBA teams are assessing you on potential, but if you go undrafted you are no longer assessed based on potential since FREE AGENT signings are expected to be finished products already hence PER as Admiral rightfully points out becomes irrelevant.
          Am I talking to you? For newbie here, masyado ka madaldal

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          • Originally posted by amabeast View Post
            Am I talking to you? For newbie here, masyado ka madaldal
            A common response for some who was corrected for lack of comprehension

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            • and the three eggs agreed..hmmm..interesting lol

              Yes, I may have to agree that undrafted FA have somewhat times two difficulty in terms of getting NBA contract versus doing it through the NBA draft.

              But, also understand that 90% of second round draftee doesn't result to NBA roster spot or contract but just the privilege of being called NBA draftee haha

              so what's the difference anyway aside of that recognition?

              Understand also that, I'm just suggesting to GMs that if they are really smart and knows where to look at and where they can benefit the most..

              They should somehow at least compared the 20 to 22 yrs old dudes around the world because essentially regardless of players status(undrafted or

              college dudes) in that age range should be given the same assessment in terms of what they can bring to help their team.

              Again, it is just me and my very creative mind haha you guys don't have to agree with me and it's fine. I'm just giving the

              authorities(GMs/scouts/coaches) and idea

              or thought outside the box or norms.

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              • Originally posted by Mabalos
                Talk about hubris, try emailing Bob Myers your suggestion and see if he even reads your email
                Wow..words man words haha

                What did I say to hurt your kuwan lol. PEACE!

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                • Originally posted by Mabalos
                  Talk about hubris, try emailing Bob Myers your suggestion and see if he even reads your email
                  For the record.. I don't like small balls(GSW) coz every 7 footers will just end up wasted garbage like Wiseman.

                  So, Bob Myers is the last GM on earth that wasser should talk to about signing Kai lol

                  I would prefer Magic, Cavs, Bucks, Jazz.. and maybe Mavs and Grizzlies haha

                  tall line ups in the NBA right now are killing your favorite GSW small balls lol

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                  • Originally posted by Mabalos
                    You assume too much, hurt? I am actually AMUSED that you easily dismissed NBA GMs as not being smart just because the eye test and scouting reports told them that Kai is not NBA material

                    Let me guess what's next? That small ball is dying LOL
                    Well obviously no one is smart and right all time and that includes everyone..meaning including your all mighty experts of GMs, scouts, coaches etc lol

                    and obviously me and you.

                    an opinion from a nobody like me seems hurting your expertise too much haha

                    I'm amused lol

                    Does nobody ever think outside the box no more haha

                    I guess I will just say it again to you dude.. Okay lol

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                    • Originally posted by coach cj View Post
                      and the three eggs agreed..hmmm..interesting lol

                      Yes, I may have to agree that undrafted FA have somewhat times two difficulty in terms of getting NBA contract versus doing it through the NBA draft.

                      But, also understand that 90% of second round draftee doesn't result to NBA roster spot or contract but just the privilege of being called NBA draftee haha

                      so what's the difference anyway aside of that recognition?

                      Understand also that, I'm just suggesting to GMs that if they are really smart and knows where to look at and where they can benefit the most..

                      They should somehow at least compared the 20 to 22 yrs old dudes around the world because essentially regardless of players status(undrafted or

                      college dudes) in that age range should be given the same assessment in terms of what they can bring to help their team.

                      Again, it is just me and my very creative mind haha you guys don't have to agree with me and it's fine. I'm just giving the

                      authorities(GMs/scouts/coaches) and idea

                      or thought outside the box or norms.
                      There are reasons for all of this,
                      While some 2nd round picks are not signed to full roster spots , the chances of a 2nd pick with upside (but not all NBL team level), still has a greater chance to a full roster spot
                      As compared to a undrafted FA (not all.NBL.level)

                      You cannot put in same category players of the same age ( 20 or 21) a US College player yet to enter draft with an undrafted FA in terms of GMs giving them offers. Why? Cause a player yet to be drafted can be offered, "salary friendly low value contracts on the basis that the NBA team will develop the player, the same cannot be done for free agent who are undrafted.

                      BTW while not all GMs are correct all the time , it's a different thing to say that e every single one of them.were all.wrong with Kai, ( that 's actually what you're saying , ) which I think is inappropriate
                      Last edited by DAdmiral; 12-23-2022, 03:29 AM.

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                      • Originally posted by Mabalos
                        See! But its obvious you're saying that out of CONVENIENCE because you are pinning Kai's undrafted status on small ball rather than on him simply not being deemed as having enough potential as an NBA player
                        Yes..SMALL BALLS haha

                        I hate SMALL BALLS

                        So, what about that attacking my personal preferences of system and playing style lol

                        You can't expect 7'3" dude to move like 6'8" dude Green to fit SMALL BALLS haha

                        It's dying anyway..doesn't matter anymore.

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                        • Originally posted by Mabalos
                          That coach cj account is obviously a troll account
                          Ngeekk.. haha

                          Define troll my friend? lol

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                          • Originally posted by DAdmiral View Post
                            There are reasons for all of this,
                            While some 2nd round picks are not signed to full roster spots , the chances of a 2nd pick with upside (but not all NBL team level), still has a greater chance to a full roster spot
                            As compared to a undrafted FA (not all.NBL.level)

                            You cannot put in same category players of the same age ( 20 or 21) a US College player yet to enter draft with an undrafted FA in terms of GMs giving them offers. Why? Cause a player yet to be drafted can be offered, "salary friendly low value contracts on the basis that the NBA team will develop the player, the same cannot be done for free agent who are undrafted.
                            Hmmm..yes because through draft process the NBA teams has higher leeway than signing undrafted FA.

                            But..like I suggested it will all depends on NBA team needs and players fit.

                            For sure, for Kai to fit..small balls need to die and buried 6 feet below ground haha.

                            Secondly, if tall line ups is already the dominant system what Kai can offer greater than these other 7 footer dudes lol

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                            • Originally posted by Mabalos
                              So basically the conditions necessary for Kai to make the NBA as per coach cj is for the league to regress, slow down the game and reintegrate the lowpost bigs back into the game

                              So its the NBA who will adjust so that they accommodate players like Kai who can't defend the pick and roll
                              Nope..obviously your mind is full of malicious intent haha

                              and I won't make patol to you my friend lol

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                              • Originally posted by Mabalos
                                Again, what kind of 7 footer?

                                Can Kai bring the ball down the court for a coast to coast layup like Bol Bol who is 7 footer who has guard skills?

                                Or a 7 footer who's athletic enough, decently nimble but bullstrong like Zubac?
                                Okay dude..lol

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