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  • Again accuracy of what you're suggesting, you're not just saying a person of high place can be wrong ( e.g NBA executive made wrong draft pick by picking a bust (Oden ) but what you're actually accusing is ALL GMs in the NBA and NBL were all wrong for not inviting /drafting him to (combine / next star). Those are two totally different things. Your argument that authorities can be wrong is off, incorrect cause what you're claiming is they are ALL WRONG, every single one of them .!

    It's irrelevant if Kai is taller than most adequate PNR centers who stand 6'10. , as the role of center making the NBA, does not require that they are over 7 feet . Whoever can do the job effectively whatever height at a legit height (6'10) is sufficient per requirement.

    To put in proper context how misleading this claim is that it is OK for a 7 '2 center to be not as good a under 7 foot centers in PNR.. there actually is a Filipino citizen of legit NBA center height 6'11, that meets the NBA needs more as a PNR defender compared to Kai ( Kouame!). And we're just talking about the Philippines not the whole world ! ( a meaningless blanket claim, )
    Last edited by DAdmiral; 12-21-2022, 09:55 PM.

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    • Originally posted by KoolAid View Post
      I was checking the league leaders in Japan and 3rdy is top 10 in assists, To me, i feel confident he can play PG full time. I think he is the best passer at 6'2 in PH after Chris Ross imo.
      he doesn't have the handles. he's improved at it, but still nowhere near PG-level handles.

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      • Originally posted by magic_chiongson View Post
        he doesn't have the handles. he's improved at it, but still nowhere near PG-level handles.
        Agree.
        At best, Thirdy could be a facilitator type of a 2-guard for Gilas becoz of his improved passing skills which for me would be good enough.

        I know a lot Pinoy IBNers here aren't big fans of Thirdy, but for me I still think Thirdy is still serviceable for Gilas being a slasher type of a 2-guard. His 3-pt shooting may still be suspect but I think such outside shooting isn't really that bad. I mean there are games naman in which Thirdy can hit those 3's decently. Of course his specialty is slashing & fast breaks in which among the Gilas prospect wingmen he & CJ Perez are the best in those aspects. With an improve passing, I think Thirdy would even be more useful for Gilas. Besides, Thirdy is 25. He has not yet reached his peak. He's expected to improve further.
        "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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        • Originally posted by hmbopbaduwap View Post
          Dave needs to lean up a bit if he will play SG.

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          • Ngeek hahaha..

            No names mentioned here of 20 yrs old and below prospect at 7'3" tall playing outside NBA except for Wemby lol

            Hmmm..only means to say that Kai at that age, height, skils, resume etc is a rare big as much as Wemby does.

            If I'm a smart ass GM that is the right thought process.

            Hey, I didn't get the rare draft prospect who has the potential to change on how the game is played in the NBA league

            Hmmm.. then here goes Wasser selling point to GMs. Hey guys..anyone needs the second best dude after WEmby lol

            Here is our guy Kai haha...

            My point is..6'10" dudes are common and average in the market. YOu can find them anywhere haha. Find me 7'3" skilled bigs and you can count them by your fingers haha

            and for me Kai is the number two dude after Wemby and that is already me being generous about it coz if not I'm gonna put Kai at number one haha

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            • So, Terrence Fortea is attracting attention from KBL teams: https://twitter.com/baekpd1983/statu...2CvO1_QHw&s=19

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              • Korean club KCC is not recruiting Lastimosa. The tweet of FilAm Nation suggests its most likely a Fil-Am.

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                • People don't understand that Kai is no longer a prospect , his age which is essentially 21 yrs old for next season , puts him in the same boat as all undrafted vets like Cooks , Pinder etc .
                  Kai age now is actually irrelevant from a prospect perspective. As his status is free agent , furthermore he's no longer young in basketball pro years (3 years )
                  Understand the implications of being undrafted, it essentially means no NBA team will sign him based on upside. Rather they will.just let foreign leagues to develop him and sign him as a FA when he's ready

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                  • Originally posted by Mabalos
                    FYI Kai is no longer considered a prospect by virtue of him going undrafted last June.

                    So 6'11 Baba Miller who's projected to go in the lottery next year is not a rarity? He started out as a 6'2 PG a few years ago and he hit a growth spurt to get to his current 6'11 frame yet he kept his "small ball" skills with him.
                    Well technically he no longer in that group/category but considering that college players who opted to play their full college eligibility are age 20 to 22 in the NBA

                    draft night lol. Based on that wouldn't be more accurate to consider a young Kai at age 20 although already playing professionally in one of the best bball league in the world

                    as a starting and main center of the team be given the same attention and comparison with their skill set, upside etc with those college dudes with the same age range of Kai haha

                    I mean, if these GMs are really smart who should they pick - college dudes or Kai given that they have the same age etc only Kai is playing

                    professionally and more competitive bball against professionals or those other dudes playing amateur and school bballs haha

                    You put Kai in NCAA, I think he would dominate at his current game just like BAnchero haha.. Kai's game is more complete and mature now lol

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                    • Originally posted by DAdmiral View Post
                      People don't understand that Kai is no longer a prospect , his age which is essentially 21 yrs old for next season , puts him in the same boat as all undrafted vets like Cooks , Pinder etc .
                      Kai age now is actually irrelevant from a prospect perspective. As his status is free agent , furthermore he's no longer young in basketball pro years (3 years )
                      Understand the implications of being undrafted, it essentially means no NBA team will sign him based on upside. Rather they will.just let foreign leagues to develop him and sign him as a FA when he's ready
                      How old are these dudes you've mentioned? and how tall are they? lol

                      I don't think Kai belongs in that category haha

                      Understand that Kai is just 20 yrs old hihi

                      and 20 yrs old are supposed to study in school earning their college degree and playing amateur bball haha

                      Whereas this dude (Kai) is already in his second season in one of the BEST BBALL league in the world and he is the starting and main center of his team lol

                      However you look at it and if they are smart..they supposed to choose Kai everytime over these college dudes in his age range right now haha

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                      • Originally posted by Mabalos
                        First of all evertything that Kai CAN DO is nothing special but the things that KAI CAN'T DO are essential in the NBA

                        No NBA team will sign Kai because of his flashes of offensive moves if his perimeter and pick and roll defense don't improve soon. However, Kai can be a fixture in the NBL and he carve a long career in the league if he really becomes consistent with his offense.
                        Pick and roll hahaha

                        The oldest blah blah I've heard and have been proven otherwise many times lol

                        Talk to Zubac if it's really that essential haha

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                        • Originally posted by Mabalos
                          So you're still insisting that Kai was better than Banchero, Holmgren and Smith Jr?
                          Never said that Kai is better over anybody haha..

                          You just assuming again haha..point to me when and where i made that statement lol

                          I said Kai in his current level as a player can dominate the NCAA just like Bachero because he has a more complete and mature game now just like Banchero haha

                          Gets po ba? haha

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                          • Originally posted by Mabalos
                            Zubac got drafted in 2016 when small ball was just about to become the norm for NBA teams, just like Adams and Jonas V they've carved a niche for themselves given that compared to other 7 ft and 200 lbs centers they are actual mobile and nimble who are still decent pick and roll defenders.

                            The Phoenix and OKC games clearly exposed Kai as a liability on defense, both teams had a virtual layup line vs Kai.
                            Ngeekk.. hard to argue when we're looking things differently of the same type of players haha

                            I guess..I'll just say... Okay haha

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                            • Originally posted by Mabalos
                              Oh just like its hard to argue with someone who still can't get that going undrafted and not getting a summer league invite is basically a death sentence in the NBA
                              I'm perfectly okay with Kai being undrafted.

                              What matter is now and the future..

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                              • Originally posted by The_Big_Cat View Post
                                Korean club KCC is not recruiting Lastimosa. The tweet of FilAm Nation suggests its most likely a Fil-Am.

                                https://twitter.com/filam_nation/sta...5X_faWwS3nJduA

                                He said not a Filam

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