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  • Kai in a sense is the 36ers only true legit traditional center , starting him to provide that early inside presence makes sense.
    He is indeed efficient for 10 to 15 mins , it's when he goes beyond 5 mins runs where it diminishing returns.
    CJ's approach of going small in the 4th quarter has proved to be positive (he's won games with this approach), it's actually not an uncommon approach to start big, (Lakers-Howard , Bulls -Longley , Clippers , Bucks etc etc and then to finish small..
    The thing with going small switchable is it requires high level of activity rate, so has to be reserved for the end game for a short period of high level intensity. (Cannot be done throughout the game especially in early quarters or 1st half).
    I like it when Kai get's 10 min in 1st half . Then 2nd half is bonus .. this is sound approach really done by most coaches , especially in the NBA. (Of course we're referring to teams without an all star level center , which the 36ers don't have anyway.
    Last edited by DAdmiral; 12-20-2022, 08:12 PM.

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    • Originally posted by DAdmiral View Post
      Kai in a sense is the 36ers only true legit traditional center , starting him to provide that early inside presence makes sense.
      He is indeed efficient for 10 to 15 mins , it's when he goes beyond 5 mins runs where it diminishing returns.
      CJ's approach of going small in the 4th quarter has proved to be positive (he's won games with this approach), it's actually not an uncommon approach to start big, (Lakers-Howard , Bulls -Longley , Clippers , Bucks etc etc and then to finish small..
      The thing with going small switchable is it requires high level of activity rate, so has to be reserved for the end game for a short period of high level intensity. (Cannot be done throughout the game especially in early quarters or 1st half).
      I like it when Kai get's 10 min in 1st half . Then 2nd half is bonus .. this is sound approach really done by most coaches , especially in the NBA. (Of course we're referring to teams without an all star level center , which the 36ers don't have anyway.
      Kai is not your average traditional center you're making me laugh haha

      Kai is a stretch big that can shoot threes with good post up game and face up game that can defend and move decently all the way in the three

      point area.

      Don't confuse the term traditional versus stretch big lol

      Ivica Zubac is an example of your average traditional big haha which by the way is still very effective versus small balls team in the NBA haha

      and Nikola Jokic is an example of your stretch big(shoots threes with good post up and face up games)

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      • that isn't the point , Kai is still the most true real center in the 36ers of respectable level , DJ is more of a Dirk playing center ( Gaze words ) , the other point is neither of them or anyone in the 36ers is an NBL all star level center ( a guy relied on to play over 25 mins , DJ is forced to play 25 mins cause there is really no one else of the proficiency level ) , the reason we're putting this all in accurate context , realize to be signed as undrafted NBA free agent to a guaranteed contract one has to at a minimum be of an "All star level player. (landale MVP etc) It's just providing accuracy and not getting ahead of ourselves with overhype, yes Kai is playing better, yes he can play 15 mns but please no jumping into NBA conversations as some are doing as what it translates to making the NBA , no it's not , it's still a long way off.. we talk in the proper context of what it means , such as Kai is plausible starter for the 36ers next year or a central piece to Gilas success , but none of this , " he will make the NBA stuff. that's pang vlogger over exaggeration stuff

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        • Originally posted by DAdmiral View Post
          Kai in a sense is the 36ers only true legit traditional center , starting him to provide that early inside presence makes sense.
          He is indeed efficient for 10 to 15 mins , it's when he goes beyond 5 mins runs where it diminishing returns.
          CJ's approach of going small in the 4th quarter has proved to be positive (he's won games with this approach), it's actually not an uncommon approach to start big, (Lakers-Howard , Bulls -Longley , Clippers , Bucks etc etc and then to finish small..
          The thing with going small switchable is it requires high level of activity rate, so has to be reserved for the end game for a short period of high level intensity. (Cannot be done throughout the game especially in early quarters or 1st half).
          I like it when Kai get's 10 min in 1st half . Then 2nd half is bonus .. this is sound approach really done by most coaches , especially in the NBA. (Of course we're referring to teams without an all star level center , which the 36ers don't have anyway.

          I?m hoping kai would play in the NBL1 in the off season so that it would develop his game well playing in the NBL.
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          • Heo Hoon-Ildefonso backcourt at KT

            https://twitter.com/heoball/status/1...bji899_wA&s=19

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            • The clamor for a 20yr old Kai to be ADL's starting center has been gaining traction and it is even discussed in the Aussie forums and socmed. We should all pause and digest that it is a 20yr old Kai Sotto. We said it here first just for the record.lol



              Kai given ample time had clearly outplayed two former NBA centers.

              Will Magnay
              Aaron Baynes

              Baynes only had one field goal against Kai and Baynes is most likely starting Center of Australia Team A against a 20yr old Kai Sotto.

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              • Originally posted by PeeZones View Post
                The argument that 7 footers should be able to guard PNRs every single time is stupid. Even in the NBA, centers like Gobert (3x DPOY), Embiid (5x All Star), and Jokic (2x MVP) play drop defense against PNR. I hate this notion that 7 footers should be able to guard all kinds of offensive schemes. What's next, demand that the little guys be able to guard the post too? Sorry for the rant, it's so ignorant. Unless one is a Giannis who is a genetic freak then more often than not you'll get your typical tradeoff for the height premium.

                Also, seeing that Craig Randall video I'm reminded of how some people here said Kai had bad reactions to CJ's coaching. Apparently not bad enough because Randall was on some extra stuff. I can't imagine Kai reacting like that, he's always been malleable to coaching.

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                • Originally posted by jasper222 View Post
                  The argument that 7 footers should be able to guard PNRs every single time is stupid. Even in the NBA, centers like Gobert (3x DPOY), Embiid (5x All Star), and Jokic (2x MVP) play drop defense against PNR. I hate this notion that 7 footers should be able to guard all kinds of offensive schemes. What's next, demand that the little guys be able to guard the post too? Sorry for the rant, it's so ignorant. Unless one is a Giannis who is a genetic freak then more often than not you'll get your typical tradeoff for the height premium.

                  Also, seeing that Craig Randall video I'm reminded of how some people here said Kai had bad reactions to CJ's coaching. Apparently not bad enough because Randall was on some extra stuff. I can't imagine Kai reacting like that, he's always been malleable to coaching.
                  I couldn't agree more bro.. well said bro, well said...

                  And the fact these drop defense guys are marking their names in the NBA speaks a lot about BS requirement that 7 footers should play switch all the time in the pick and roll lol

                  Andrew Gaze commentary although great bball players, he doesn't assess Kai's game as a 7 footer. Kai is the most fluid and most complete offensive/defensive 20 yrs old

                  7'3" in the world except for Wemby haha who is currently not playing in the NBA. And I'm being serious about it now. If anyone here does not agree with I just said..then name

                  me 7'3" tall players age 20 and below prospect not playing in the NBA who is better than Kai right now except for Wemby ha lol.

                  If none, then Kai should have a serious consideration in the NBA and scouts/GM sucks to have not seen Kai's true potential in the last NBA draft haha.

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                  • I was checking the league leaders in Japan and 3rdy is top 10 in assists, To me, i feel confident he can play PG full time. I think he is the best passer at 6'2 in PH after Chris Ross imo.

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                    • Originally posted by Mabalos
                      Chet Holmgren will have something to say about that
                      Firstly, Chet is just 7'0" tall and secondly..I said 20 yrs old or below prospect in the world who are not in the NBA right now lol

                      Chet, Bol bol etc are in the NBA so hindi counted haha

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                      • So what's this Victor dude (oh forgot he's not 20 ) and all those 20nand under drafted and to be drafted center skilled prospects, they don't exist ? LoL

                        Can't Cooks , Pinder, Wandenberg have more a claim of out playing former NBA players like Magnay, does this mean anything?

                        PnR defense is about rate of proficiency ( not meaning 100 % always good ), the issue with Kai's PNR defense isn't that he.like others does not always cover or switch, but that his rate of proficiency is below acceptable standards to be remotely considered for the NBA.. again there are levels to things. How do we know this? The NBA teams littierally have made that assessment based on feedback reflective of their decisions not to invite or draft him. (And giving the reason why, performed bad laterals in Combine drills )
                        Last edited by DAdmiral; 12-21-2022, 08:41 AM.

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                        • Originally posted by DAdmiral View Post
                          So what's this Victor dude (oh forgot he's not 20 ) and all those 20nand under drafted and to be drafted center skilled prospects, they don't exist ? LoL

                          Can't Cooks , Pinder, Wandenberg have more a claim of out playing former NBA players like Magnay, does this mean anything?
                          Yeah, but I also said except Wemby lol

                          Read my original post again. Players age 20 yrs old and below 7'3" tall who are not in the NBA that is better than Kai right now? haha

                          If none, then Kai should be given serious consideration by these stupid GMs and scouts. Kai is the next best dude after Wemby(at that height and age) right now and that is me

                          being kind already haha

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                          • ^^
                            Oh that's not an exaggeration , overhype, ? All the execs were just so way off .. ��

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                            • Originally posted by Mabalos
                              Chet Holmgren will have something to say about that
                              If Chet hasn't bulked up massively this year, he will get bullied in the post. No PNR needed. He got a sprained ankle trying to unsuccessfully guard Lebron in the Drew League. The NBA is more physical than that.

                              Originally posted by DAdmiral View Post
                              PnR defense is about rate of proficiency ( not meaning 100 % always good ), the issue with Kai's PNR defense isn't that he.like others does not always cover or switch, but that his rate of proficiency is below acceptable standards to be remotely considered for the NBA.. again there are levels to things. How do we know this? The NBA teams littierally have made that assessment based on feedback reflective of their decisions not to invite or draft him. (And giving the reason why, performed bad laterals in Combine drills )
                              Bad compared to what, 6'10 centers?

                              I've criticized people in higher places, I criticized the opinion an ESPN host with a formidable body of work. Stop being fallacious by appealing to authority. We have already settled that people in higher places can be wrong, and that saying "Oh but what about X and Y" is nothing more but hindsight. Case in point, CJ deciding to start Kai after you and a lot of people in IBN saying Kai shouldn't start yet, even when Aussie fans themselves were clamoring for it. I'm gonna be honest too, I expected Kai to start after he got a PT extension.

                              Originally posted by DAdmiral View Post
                              ^^
                              Oh that's not an exaggeration , overhype, ? All the execs were just so way off .. ��
                              Yes. Kai Sotto is a 20 year old starting for a middling team in one of the best leagues in the world and is #1 in his team when it comes to PER. That's not exaggeration or overhype but facts.

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                              • This is the exact statement (not PER for 36ers )

                                "Kai is the next best dude after Wemby(at that height and age"

                                PER etc are yes facts, but this statement is opinion that almost everyone do.not share that extreme level.

                                Again let's be accurate

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