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  • So a guard needs to have the combined skills of Jayson Castro, CJ Perez, Chris Ross and Scottie Thompson.

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    • Originally posted by DAdmiral View Post
      This is the big picture issue (for Gilas sake ), assuming our NP is Clarkson (which is a lock) and not a center like Kouame.
      Our legit 2 bigs are limited to Kai and AJ , who are averaging like 10 min and 5 min respectively. Which begs the question how do we rely on them to play like 20 plus minutes in the World Cup.
      actual minutes played is not an issue as long as their conditioning is on point. lotsa foreign nba benchwarmers play productive heavy minutes once they represent their countries.

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      • Originally posted by reamily View Post
        Alvarado and chris ross might have same level of defensive intensity its just tgat joses offense is good enough chris isnt.. jason castro has elite three point shooting and speed but not enough on defense..and think they rrceive more than alvarado can get if we factor taxes and ageent cuts, lodging and everything
        A better question would be, What does a JJ Barea, Campazzo, Yago have that our Filipino guards don't have?

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        • Originally posted by KoolAid View Post
          A better question would be, What does a JJ Barea, Campazzo, Yago have that our Filipino guards don't have?
          Paul Lee tells it through his experience back in 2014

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          • Originally posted by hmbopbaduwap View Post
            Paul Lee tells it through his experience back in 2014

            and barea was already on his last legs in '14, yet he just toyed with our guards and even rdo and ping. paul lee says it best, barea, a nba role player, is 3 steps ahead of gilas. What more if they faced lillard or rus

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            • Originally posted by KoolAid View Post
              A better question would be, What does a JJ Barea, Campazzo, Yago have that our Filipino guards don't have?
              lets look at this like a rpg character,our guards may have the same skill set as barea, pozeco or campazo but our guards are just level ten while their NBA counterparts havee attained max skills on every attribute.

              you could credit them being exposed to higher level competition at a young age as one of the main factors for their advance skills.

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              • Originally posted by CoJ View Post
                lets look at this like a rpg character,our guards may have the same skill set as barea, pozeco or campazo but our guards are just level ten while their NBA counterparts havee attained max skills on every attribute.

                you could credit them being exposed to higher level competition at a young age as one of the main factors for their advance skills.
                If we're talking in terms of RPGs I'd like to think that our players might have the same skill set and the same class but are only on their first job while their NBA counterparts are already on their 2nd or 3rd Job already and not only maxed out their skills but equipment too. It also didn't help that some of players have terrible builds.

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                • Originally posted by greenarcher View Post
                  So a guard needs to have the combined skills of Jayson Castro, CJ Perez, Chris Ross and Scottie Thompson.
                  and will reject a multi million peso(million dollar offer in any asian league) just to be able to land an nba job given his skillset
                  To becomes Asia's Best, we need to compete against the World's Best..
                  1 Big 4 small > 5 out offense.

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                  • Originally posted by Chef30 View Post
                    What he's lacking is what the Dubs really need. He does not have to space the floor because Looney, Draymond, Bogut & McGee don't. It's not wise to sacrifice Steph's prime and their proven playbook for the sake of Wiseman's Development. That's why there is the GLeague. Jordan Poole has been in and out of Santa Cruz prior to the 21-22 season but look at him now.
                    Wiseman hasn't played a lot of basketball since HS. He was injured early on his collegiate career, played a game and was suspended before turning pro. And he missed a lot of games with GS. He needs to shake off his rust and adjust to NBA speed. Even though it's not looking good so far he can still turn it around. GS needs someone who can help them compete while Step and co are in their prime. Maybe flip him for someone who can contribute now?

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                    • Originally posted by thatweirdguy View Post
                      Wiseman hasn't played a lot of basketball since HS. He was injured early on his collegiate career, played a game and was suspended before turning pro. And he missed a lot of games with GS. He needs to shake off his rust and adjust to NBA speed. Even though it's not looking good so far he can still turn it around. GS needs someone who can help them compete while Step and co are in their prime. Maybe flip him for someone who can contribute now?
                      Wiseman is a bad fit, GSW system requires a bigman who is a good passer, can read plays and a solid screener. Put the big Kiwi in their team and they will be easily top 3 in the league. Sorry for OT.

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                      • What NBA teams look for ( especially for 2nd round picks )

                        He does a little bit of everything. He impacts the game without scoring. You see his stats and he’s averaging eight, five and four, a couple of steals and a block. He just does a lot of good things even though he’s not a 20-point scorer.

                        Kai would be in the NBA, if he was efficient in the other end (defense).
                        When scouts talked about Ousmane Dieng as a potential lottery pick, they said " this is only possible cause he plays defense"

                        Wiseman and Kai have to make their impact defensively (everyone knows their talent offense, not what teams are looking for in the2.

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                        • Originally posted by magic_chiongson View Post
                          actual minutes played is not an issue as long as their conditioning is on point. lotsa foreign nba benchwarmers play productive heavy minutes once they represent their countries.
                          The difference with Kai , is all of those NBA bench players were at one point in their career stars for their club or college team prior to entering the NBA (they were relied on to win ), and as you pointed out their stamina to carry a team is proven

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                          • Do you think Kai Sotto is going to average in double figures if he plays in the CBA??

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                            • Originally posted by PaulLee3 View Post
                              Do you think Kai Sotto is going to average in double figures if he plays in the CBA??
                              I think so , if he's avg 5 pts in 10 min in the NBL , I see it realistic that if he plays 20 plus minutes he will avg 10 pts . Perhaps we can look at Zhou's #'s to get an idea ( i think Kai if given the same minutes or close to as Zhou , can score 80 % of zhou's production

                              Zhou in china (20/21 season) was avg 33 min and 20 pts. so if kai plays just 22 pts , i think he can avg least 10 pts

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                              • Originally posted by Mabalos
                                The last team to win it all with a dominant conventional center were the Spurs back in 2014

                                The last team to win with a dominant but modern big were the Bucks in 2021

                                Out of the last 10 NBA champs only those two teams won with dominant bigs, though it must be noted that the best player on that 2014 Spurs team in the finals wasn't Tim Duncan anymore but Kawhi Leonard

                                The most successful team right now with a dominant big as its centerpiece is hands down the Bucks, successful in the sense that they've won a championship. Yes Embiid and the Joker are dominant albeit modern bigs but they haven't even made it to the finals.

                                Until the likes of Embiid, Jokic, Wembanyama, Holmgren, Bol Bol and company start towing their teams to the NBA finals like Giannis, the so called small ball will be here to stay.

                                IMHO, today's small ball is a lot different than the 2015-2018 small ball when the Warriors just dominated everything via shooting. It has evolved to a point wherein a lot of premium is also placed on creating space for players with perimeter skills to take advantage of mismatches even if it means passing up a 3 pointer. The Pelicans and the Kings, two very improved teams this season are proof positive of this.
                                You actually have the bubble champion 2020 Los Angeles Lakers with a dominant stretch big in Anthony Davis (6'10") playing as PF and traditional big Dwight Howard(6'10")

                                playing at the same time haha and when one is sitting on the bench it is replaced by Javale McGee(7'0"). The idea is to always have two bigs or twin towers inside the floor.

                                Actually before the Lakers Bucks were already doing it in the east but cannot get past through the eastern conference finals because of injuries to their main players but when

                                healthy they got the championship 2021 with twin towers stretch big Brook Lopez(7'0") and Giannis Antetokounmpo(6'11") and off the bench Bobby Portis(6'10"). So basically

                                the old twin towers system is still dominant lol. I think Grizzles twin towers (Jaret Jackson,Adams,aldama) and Cavaliers(Mobley,Allen,Love) are the other teams worthy of

                                mentioning and is utilizing the same strategy which is working for them lol.

                                While Jazz twin towers(Markannen,Olynyk,Kesller), Wolves(Gobert,Towns), Pacers(Turner,Smith) looks good but sometimes inconsistent pa haha.

                                But compared that to your dominant small ball team GSW which looks like a play-in tournament than a championship contender team haha

                                Kai Sotto just needs alignment of the star and when NBA teams trend to playing tall line ups Kai will have the opportunity. It's more easier than in the NBL which is

                                trending to playing small balls haha. Mahirap talaga i-convince ang small ball coach like CJ coz he's always looking for match up versus Sydney Kings, Taipans, Breakers etc

                                who are dominantly playing small ball.

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