Filipino Players in Foreign Leagues

[barok espinoza]

2014 World Cup Blatche was one of the top players in the tournament. It's really disappointed he let himself go after the tournament. Put 2014 Blatche on our 2015 FIBA asia silver medal run. We'd have beaten China in the finals.

2015 gilas had only marc pingris from the SMC side. No junmar, no japeth, no smc gunners. it would not have changed the course of history. the problem with the 2015 gilas team was well documented here -- smc did not cooperate.

[interxavierxxx]

Maybe he isn't really much of a passer and the short prep time with team also. I think other than his poor conditioning, his lack of passing is what kept him from a long NBA career. But yeah, he was effective because he had good dribbling skills and was very crafty. Kai is also crafty and has good touch, give him baltche's dribbling and how do you stop that?

Tab said it himself Andray is impossible to manage.

[TheRodster21]

Maybe he isn't really much of a passer and the short prep time with team also. I think other than his poor conditioning, his lack of passing is what kept him from a long NBA career. But yeah, he was effective because he had good dribbling skills and was very crafty. Kai is also crafty and has good touch, give him baltche's dribbling and how do you stop that?

Maybe to explain it, he’s pretty Turnover prone, look at his assist to turnover ratio. Not just his handles but he also held the ball too much and made poor decisions

[mathematicianrcg]

Maybe to explain it, he’s pretty Turnover prone, look at his assist to turnover ratio. Not just his handles but he also held the ball too much and made poor decisions

Agreed with this.

No one would hate Blatche using thar play style, if he is efficient doing it.

He was our best player in that 2014 WC. But yeah, he have key turmovers and big poor decisions.

[neo]

Well, w/o Blatche.. we will not good results in 2014 WC and the 2015 FIBA Asia.. see 2017 FIBA Asia and some WC qualifiers w/o Blatche? We lose more than win some games.. That is prime Blatche can give to you!! He has more positive attributes for Gilas rather than negative ones..

he was paid a lot. especially in 2014 and 2015. gilas deserved d high-level production.

[mathematicianrcg]

Well, w/o Blatche.. we will not good results in 2014 WC and the 2015 FIBA Asia.. see 2017 FIBA Asia and some WC qualifiers w/o Blatche? We lose more than win some games.. That is prime Blatche can give to you!! He has more positive attributes for Gilas rather than negative ones..

Well yeah. I didn't say he is a terrible import/NP.

[lurklurk]

The more I think about it, the more i believe that Kai Sotto with an ambidextrous sky hook is going to be unstoppable in asia. Like yao ming level dominance, with potential to be even better.

[mathematicianrcg]

The more I think about it, the more i believe that Kai Sotto with an ambidextrous sky hook is going to be unstoppable in asia. Like yao ming level dominance, with potential to be even better.

If Kai will grow to Yao Ming Height, he will be more unstoppable. Assuming no effect on his mobility.

But even at 7'3 he have some skills that Yao doesn't have. Like 3pt shooting and Passing.

And that Skyhook will be huge if mastered

[barok espinoza]

because of his large repertoire of skills, kai will always be an efficient scorer for gilas. and being a 7'3, he will do most of the damage under the basket. but first, a system must be in place to free up space so he can do his thing.

that's why he needs cerebral teammates who can analyze the situation on the floor very quickly, has patience, run plays, and know when to step up their game. otherwise, kai will just be another lumbering giant on the floor, not so much because he can't move, but due to frustration and perhaps a desire to murder his uncooperative gilas teammates.

[lurklurk]

If Kai will grow to Yao Ming Height, he will be more unstoppable. Assuming no effect on his mobility.

But even at 7'3 he have some skills that Yao doesn't have. Like 3pt shooting and Passing.

And that Skyhook will be huge if mastered

Lots of misguided thoughts bro. Let me help you out.

1. Only minimal advantage will be gained for each inch of growth past 7’3. In asia level, there’s virtually no difference between 7’3 and 7’6.
2. Yao ming is a very good shooter, with range that can stretch until 3 point line. He is a very good passer too, especially out of the post. His lack of numbers/stats supporting these skills is just a product of era.

The skyhook in itself is not really an unguardable move, especially with how athletic and heady players are in today’s game. This and the fact that it’s not really easy to master and requires control and strength from both left and right arms, noone really tries to master it. It takes a certain kind of player in a certain situation for it to be worthwhile. Thinking more about it convinces me that Kai is a perfect fit. Kai’s physique is perfect—elite height and length, ambidextrous, excellent touch, nimble and can get off the ground fast. With the lack of athleticism in centers in asia region, a skyhook from Kai is virtually unguardable. Asian dominance from Kai really is not farfetched in this line of thought.

[Dotch]

If Kai will grow to Yao Ming Height, he will be more unstoppable. Assuming no effect on his mobility.

But even at 7'3 he have some skills that Yao doesn't have. Like 3pt shooting and Passing.

And that Skyhook will be huge if mastered

Good luck with those knees if he still grows. Data showed only few players above 7'3 lasted for a decade in the NBA, and almost always, all of them have some form of knee and foot problems. Seriously hoping Kai wont befall to those dreaded big man injuries.

[mathematicianrcg]

Lots of misguided thoughts bro. Let me help you out.

1. Only minimal advantage will be gained for each inch of growth past 7’3. In asia level, there’s virtually no difference between 7’3 and 7’6.
2. Yao ming is a very good shooter, with range that can stretch until 3 point line. He is a very good passer too, especially out of the post. His lack of numbers/stats supporting these skills is just a product of era.

The skyhook in itself is not really an unguardable move, especially with how athletic and heady players are in today’s game. This and the fact that it’s not really easy to master and requires control and strength from both left and right arms, noone really tries to master it. It takes a certain kind of player in a certain situation for it to be worthwhile. Thinking more about it convinces me that Kai is a perfect fit. Kai’s physique is perfect—elite height and length, ambidextrous, excellent touch, nimble and can get off the ground fast. With the lack of athleticism in centers in asia region, a skyhook from Kai is virtually unguardable. Asian dominance from Kai really is not farfetched in this line of thought.

1. Hmmm. Ok.But that minimal advantage is an advantage too imo.

2. About Yao. Ok, I guess it is hard to judge his 3pt shooting because of his low volume in his era. As for passing, I think Kai can be the same or close to the level of Jokic Passing. Yao is a good passer, but not really in the level of the joker.

Skyhook ofc will be unguardable in asia. I agree with you on that.

I also agree that Kai can surpass Haddadi Dominance, and be as dominant as Yao.

Anyway, thanks for the inputs

[mathematicianrcg]

Good luck with those knees if he still grows. Data showed only few players above 7'3 lasted for a decade in the NBA, and almost always, all of them have some form of knee and foot problems. Seriously hoping Kai wont befall to those dreaded big man injuries.

Idk. Kai is 19. So he have 2 years of a possiblr growth spurt. (21 yrs old generally stop growth for men)

But If Kai will lose mobility if he grow taller, I rather want Kai to stay at 7'3 or 7'4 at maximum

[JAMSKIE]

1. Hmmm. Ok.But that minimal advantage is an advantage too imo.

2. About Yao. Ok, I guess it is hard to judge his 3pt shooting because of his low volume in his era. As for passing, I think Kai can be the same or close to the level of Jokic Passing. Yao is a good passer, but not really in the level of the joker.

Skyhook ofc will be unguardable in asia. I agree with you on that.

I also agree that Kai can surpass Haddadi Dominance, and be as dominant as Yao.

Anyway, thanks for the inputs

Agree on all points, specially the last part. As I've said a couple of times, I find Kai to be more skilled than Hadadi, though I find Hadadi to be stronger & physically tougher. In terms of speed/agility & mobility, I think Kai has a slight advantage.

I think among the great Asian centers in the last 30 years, I see Wang Zhizhi's game as the one with which closely resembles Kai's playing style. Both are finesse type of players with good post moves, shooting & agility.

Si Hadadi kasi parang dinadaan nya lang talaga sa laki & lakas ng katawan. Wang Zhizhi on the other hand gets the job mainly thru finesse.

Kai's edge over Wang is that Kai is now a legit 7-foot-3 while Wang is only 7-feet flat.

[Labradoodle]

Good luck with those knees if he still grows. Data showed only few players above 7'3 lasted for a decade in the NBA, and almost always, all of them have some form of knee and foot problems. Seriously hoping Kai wont befall to those dreaded big man injuries.

I wonder if this is a result more from improper training relative to their height rather than their actual height being the cause?

Extemely tall people are rare so many conditioning are catered to people who have more "common" height