Filipino Players in Foreign Leagues

[DAdmiral]

Yuta was 23 years old when he was invited. Kai is still 21; he still has some time. What do you think if Kai went to the NCAA instead of Ignite?

My reference to trajectory is the rate of learning curve (not the age ), obviously Yuta was not the same promising prospect as Kai as a 18 or 19 year old. It's their individual rate of improvement from 19 to 21 yrs old , (Yuta went from 7 pts as a freshman to 16 pts as a senior). Kai has lower averages this year from last (I'm not suggesting Kai has regressed , he definitely has improved but it is not at the same rate) Note I'm not referring to levels for a particular age.. (e.g as a 20 year old), the importance of this is it demonstrates a players ability to improve, which recruiters then can see what their envision upside is .

I've mentioned many Kai's handlers mistakes , will post again and update post ..
List of mistakes (Kai's handlers)

1. They enrolled in US high school , with no real intent to enter a US College , what this meant is Kai's NBA draft status would be classified as a US prospect and not an international prospect. (Limiting his years to develop to be ready for the draft , they rushed it )

2. Signing with Ignite (this wasn't a wrong decision per se ) but it sealed his supposedly one and done status, and he became Auto eligible



So the right decision for his handlers was either
1. Go to TSF but go to US college after (if eligible) to have 4 years of development (US prospect) or
2. NBA academy, NBL and join draft as a 22 year old (international prospect)

It's not actually the age of kai and that he still has time , it's what he did with the time from 18 to 20 years old which rate of expected improvement is underwhelming

[PeeZones]

You should not waste your time arguing with Analyze because his take is always biased towards NZ players. He has been peddling countless NZ players as next durant or whatever and yet all fall short.

Kai wouldnt need to please everyone who cant appreciate his positives. He only needs one team or several teams to give him his chances. Wasserman is a very reliable and influential agency.haha 2 of their agents was heralded recently by forbes as one of the most influential agents of this year. To those who would argue that they were not handling Kai, it is not really the agent but the AGENCY/COMPANY. https://www.instagram.com/p/ClFMy4lt...d=YzdkMWQ2MWU=

To those saying that some of Wass players were gleaguers, you dont know bball!lol Gleague was established to develop players and is a major source of NBA players. Puro kuda wala namang alam.

Here is a video of a scout who believes in Kai unlike resident negatrons who were nobodies and always provides no namers as source.lol while analyze was insisting that Kai's development was subpar other credible individuals hail Kai's growth as great.lol

[DAdmiral]

Speaking of Yuta , in a perfect world where our homegrown players moved to the US in high school at 16. Could a Balti or Tamayo do a Yuta ...(e.g . 4 years college etc) and be the player Yuta was at college graduation?

[DAdmiral]

There is actually nothing to argue about (I'm not ) it's just what it is , Landale and Yuta got significant interest in their draft years as compared to Kai, getting Camp invites and landing new deals (Memphis and Serbia Europe). Essentially team executives (in NBA , NBL and Europe) have voiced their views on the 3 reflective of their actions (nothing to debate it is what it is) .the 2 got invites and new deals Kai didn't (period)
And now the 2 are NBA rotation players, the executives actually got it right on their draft years (they saw the potential evident in invites and offers)

[JAMSKIE]

I think Dwight's injury is just a sprained ankle. We just don't know what degree. Hope its not that bad. Well, matagal pa naman ang 6th window. Its 3 months away.

[PeeZones]

Were they offered NBA ignite contracts at 18 then NBL contract at 19? Did they receive EURO offers at 16? You should compare at the same age.lol Kai is only 20. Landale landed in the NBA at 26yrs old. For Yuta Watanabe at 24yrs old, really analyze? Both Landale and Yuta were overage college players. 20 yr old Kai would find NCAA college ball too easy as compared to the level of competition that he is competing at age 19/20.

Kai had way better offers and performance for both at the same age. Talk about truth and context.

[DAdmiral]

The only thing that matters is what did executives think of the 3 in their draft year? Manifested by invites and offers.

Both Landale and Yuta were invited to global camp combine (version of G-league camp )and summer league and were offered deals with Memphis and Serbia . both proved the executives decisions on draft year were right as they're rotational NBA players today, Kai got zero interest , invites or new offers (even if 36ers let him get new offers) . Still don't get it , will say it again, zero players who were not part of either the combine or camp invites on draft year ever secured a full time NBA contract , Kai has to make history to be the 1st

If anything Kai entering the draft earlier ( 20 yrs old) is actually an advantage, yet no executive showed any interest in his upside to invite or offer him anything. and also if anything landale and Yuta not have super agent as you suggest is then a testament of their abilities to land guaranteed full year contracts without a super agent

[PeeZones]

both Landale and Yuta were undrafted.lol Kai had the backing of Goodwin and Wasserman. Let us check next year after Kai's NBL stint.lol Did Landale and Yuta have the backing of a very powerful agency? Kai is 20.hahaha

[Sikatrix]

both Landale and Yuta were undrafted.lol Kai had the backing of Goodwin and Wasserman. Let us check next year after Kai's NBL stint.lol Did Landale and Yuta have the backing of a very powerful agency? Kai is 20.hahaha

Being part of Wasserman doesnt mean Kai will make the NBA, just means that Wasserman thinks he can make money from Kai.

[DAdmiral]

Always good for agencies to expand portfolio of player clients , including outside the NBA , small ticket items but larger volume is smart business

[PeeZones]

Being part of Wasserman doesnt mean Kai will make the NBA, just means that Wasserman thinks he can make money from Kai.

How can he Wass make money if Kai won't get contracts? It is either Wass sees Kai as a Euroleague player or an NBA player. Will Wass get a player if he doesn't have a chance in getting a contract? If that is the case, then analyze should lobby all the players on his roster.haha Wass is allocating resources and time for Kai. Tadas traveled to another continent just to check on his client.

[Sikatrix]

How can he Wass make money if Kai won't get contracts? It is either Wass sees Kai as a Euroleague player or an NBA player. Will Wass get a player if he doesn't have a chance in getting a contract? If that is the case, then analyze should lobby all the players on his roster.haha Wass is allocating resources and time for Kai. Tadas traveled to another continent just to check on his client.

Kai can get contracts. In fact, if he was looking for money BLeague would probably be easiest for him.

[DAdmiral]

You don't run an agency by not traveling and staying put in LA, while limiting your self to just the NBA.
Australia is very desirable to visit, and almost everyone in basketball checks on potential players in the NBL as well as network with potential NBL teams for the future...
If Randell and Franks after the win over Suns have received significant interest from NBA teams as reported, then an agency can get a quick sale deal just connecting people.
That's how you run a business with a diversified portfolio of clients of both players and teams.. this is basic stuff , someone is totally naive about .

[jasper222]

https://youtu.be/IK1KNcC-6ic

Yuta Watanabe despite having defensive award in college,

fluidity, shoots 3s, active offball etc the scouts still looked

at him as being soft hence Yuta became undrafted, talk

about stereotype and Asian discrimanation lol

It's not a rocket science thing that whenever a player

looked asian it will be harder to get positive feedback from

this biased scouts as compared to black and european

players haha. Well Kai Sotto also may have had the same

treatment as Yuta back then lol

It's telling that you already provided a link to Asian discrimination and they STILL call it excuses. Anybody remember when Kobe Paras suddenly got "un"-recruited from UCLA because of his grades when Middlebrooks said it was above average? If he was no good at basketball then UCLA should've just said that.

In fact, if people doubt that Youtuber, why don't we hear it from Yuta himself:

https://twitter.com/immadein_/status/1362043900576333828

Growing up in Japan, Yuta Watanabe (@wacchi1013
) had dreams of being an NBA player. At first, they laughed, he said. But 26 years later, he's playing basketball at the highest level on the @Raptors
.

On his journey, identity, racism and more on today's pod

Here's a few comments about the podcast from the listeners:

Good luck to him he?s going to go through a lot of shit because the stereotypes about Asians. Hopefully he?ll be able to stay strong and don?t let the NBA stress him out

Amazing! I?m half Japanese and I was constantly overlooked stateside and was made fun of when playing pickup ball until I proved myself. Even then the only nicknames I ever got were Hibachi or Yao Ming (not even Japanese). Ended up playing D2 ball at BYUH.

You show them proof, show them links, but they'll never recognize them because you don't share the same opinion as them.

What makes you people any different from the closed minds of the PBA and SBP?

Take care and eat your lunch because I'm having mine late today.

[DAdmiral]

Discrimination is everywhere at different levels, (this is no news ), basketball included, the fact you're bringing it up within this context is actually the bigger issue. Jasper if you don't understand why that is ? Then you need to get out to see a wider perspective of how it is to not just hear and read about things but to actually live as a minority in certain industries and environments. And when and how best to handle the issue. It existing is nothing new , how you handle it is the issue, and you bring it up in this context of an international forum does Asians no favors but rather pulls them down even further (hope I don't have to explain why that is )