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Hasn?t been good by whose standards, yours? People have been posting numbers vis a vis other players and you seem to not have noticed or completely chose to ignore it? Why? His last season?s numbers albeit not eye popping, were decent. It?s unfair to judge Kai?s progress by virtue of his recent NBL play because he is operating on a short lease and limited minutes.
I?d be the first to admit Kai?s progress isn?t ideal, even for my liking. But he isn?t stagnant, he keeps on improving, and that?s all that matters. You compare Kai?s performances a year back, and it?s obvious he has made some strides.
Standard is learning curve for those who made it via late FA signing or 4 year college graduate. That's the comparison..
Many litterarally double their freshman stats to junior 3rd year. That's what I'm referring to . There is NO fair in trying to make thebNBA cut throat business, GMs don't ratiionlise a bench player in a pro team should be given a chance.
BTW a suttle word was included in my forecast for Kai to make the NBA, that word is FULL year guaranteed contract. . I say it again no one who has not been invited to combine or g league camp ever is offered a Full guaranteed contract immediately on entry.
People don't like hearing these things , like they didn't like my statistical probability of history showing none top 100 mock drafts are likely to be drafted. The thing is they are really statistical true. Whether you like it or not, yes not statistical impossible (which is nine sense nothing is impossible statistically, like all can be President one day).
Because of Kai's notoriety (Pinoy) I do see it as statistical probable however low to be signed a 10 day NBA contract, then from there gain a two way contract, then eventually move to a guaranteed contract NBA , this is possible however low with Kai's current trajectory. (Jack White , Mitch Creek are some who got 2 way contracts or 10 day exhibit)
But singing like Landale though of a full year contract upon recruitment is historically unprecedented if Kai is to follow path given his low growth trajectory last 3 years.
Kai cannot rely on just FIBA play, he has show his value in the regular pro league ..(look at all the guaranteed full contract recruits , they're litterarally MVPs of their respective pro leagues)
any nationality can post here in philippine threads. no rules that prevent other nationalities to post in other continent threads.. i even post in europe and no one complains..
Besides it's totally understandable to post about Australia and NZ in a Kai thread, as Kai litterarally plays in a league where Kiwis and Australians are locals , and don't need to say ANZ are part of FiBA Asia, the US or Spain are not. So too obvious
Check how Dwairi bulldozes over NZ.haha Dwairi look normal playing against 20yr old Kai Sotto but against NZ he was a monster.haha
Very true I predicted this to be NZL dilemma in a group chat , Nz had no real center for 5th window, Milner and Hunt are not centers . And Milner is an NBL bench warmer while Hunt is out of a NBL contract., while Al is a pro in Turkish league and a true center . Quite expected.
Super misleading to suggest that Milner and Hunt will be regular centers for Nz for any decent fielded team..
Standard is learning curve for those who made it via late FA signing or 4 year college graduate. That's the comparison..
Many litterarally double their freshman stats to junior 3rd year. That's what I'm referring to . There is NO fair in trying to make thebNBA cut throat business, GMs don't ratiionlise a bench player in a pro team should be given a chance.
BTW a suttle word was included in my forecast for Kai to make the NBA, that word is FULL year guaranteed contract. . I say it again no one who has not been invited to combine or g league camp ever is offered a Full guaranteed contract immediately on entry.
People don't like hearing these things , like they didn't like my statistical probability of history showing none top 100 mock drafts are likely to be drafted. The thing is they are really statistical true. Whether you like it or not, yes not statistical impossible (which is nine sense nothing is impossible statistically, like all can be President one day).
Because of Kai's notoriety (Pinoy) I do see it as statistical probable however low to be signed a 10 day NBA contract, then from there gain a two way contract, then eventually move to a guaranteed contract NBA , this is possible however low with Kai's current trajectory. (Jack White , Mitch Creek are some who got 2 way contracts or 10 day exhibit)
But singing like Landale though of a full year contract upon recruitment is historically unprecedented if Kai is to follow path given his low growth trajectory last 3 years.
Kai cannot rely on just FIBA play, he has show his value in the regular pro league ..(look at all the guaranteed full contract recruits , they're litterarally MVPs of their respective pro leagues)
Asus, as if Kai is playing college ball and ADL retained status quo. Try harder.
Never look too far ahead. You might stumble on a block right in front of you.
If that's the case, then, his ast-TO ratio is 4.0 which means that for every 4 assists, he will only commit 1 TO. That's good.
thats very good for someone who is the main ball handler\playmaker of a team and he is new to the system at that.
i actually think JGDL is perfect for CCR. despite showing some new plays, most of what happened this window was our players where were freed up via pick and the driver has free hand to decide if he will finish or kickout. new setup, same DDO finish(most of the time). love the offball movement though.
going back to JGDL, he isnt as good as Castor or Romeo, but has same skillset. can drive inside, can shoot, and although he favours finishing, he can actually setup his teammates if he wants to. Bolick and Perez are overall way better than him at this point, but JGDL is quicker than Bolick and has more natural playmaking ability than Perez. not saying he should replace anyone, but during offseason, should have an invite to practice with Gilas.
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Yes, because of Wemby haha I was trying to observe his game and judge it based on my personal assessment.
Well, all the description like jesus walking on water, nba2k create cheat player, alien and so on are on point haha
He can score in a variety of ways and defend like he can cover a lot of defensive coverage by his length, leaping ability and whatnot.
When comparing Wemby and Kai, I think we should watch their full game before giving an opinion at the very least.
Wemby is on different level if you want to compare him with Kai haha sorry but that's the truth
Let's just say, If you need to pick one player for your team between Kai and Wemby..I'll take Wemby everytime haha no biased
I remember these answers from Kai and Wemby on interviews:
Wemby: Pretty much he kind of expected he's going number one(draft) and he's been preparing for it since the day he was born haha (talk about self-esteem and confidence)
My goal is to become unguardable .
Kai: My goal is to play in the NBA and to become NBA all star someday. (hmmm not bad..the highest a Pinoy could dream of haha)
What's the difference between the two is, I thought with regards to Wemby that is how greatness speaks. They always seek to push themselves to the limit and exceed their
true potential. His goal is to be unguardable, that's infinite or continuously improving their game - never stopping always hungry for more and for the next level.
While for Kai..hmm.. It's kind of limited. Like for example once he achieve his dream of playing in the NBA and someday become an all-star, what now? haha
Na gets niyo ba? Mindset is the key haha.
So what Kai should do is copy how the great's think, their mindset, everything about them and more. If Kai would also think and practice to become unguardable, imagine
how will that translate to his game and improvement or if he doesn't want that path maybe become the stopper of the guy who wants to become unguardable haha - be a wemby stopper at least may goal haha joke lang.
Haddadi got an NBA contract due to a strong showing in the Olympics, Campazzo too during the 2019 FIBA WC.
I wonder what your agenda is in bringing down Kai? Did his team turn you down as a possible rep here in OZ and there in NZ?
Why does it have to be considered hate , when I'm just citing historical common precedence of how players make the NBA as undrafted free agents , there are characteristic profiles of what that looks like , they're basically stars of their respective top pro league.. (euro Nbl) , this should not come as any surprise , i don't know why you guys think it's purpose knock on Kai , just because of citing these common pathways of who made it as undrafted looks like. It's not just Kai it's true for any player , off course there are exceptions.. The profile of a tall young player who was heavily recruited coming out of high school, but in basketball terms over 3 or 4 years in his regular league play isn't a starter, much more a star , is certainly different from a none 4 or 5 star college recurit , who basically doubles his stats from 1st year to 3rd year and draws so much attention , that he transfers to top recruiting school in his senior year.. (this is like the Landalle or Wetzell or Watanabe profile , as compared to Tacko fall ( super high recruit as a freshman) , there is nothing personal , remove the names and personalities aside, and yes just on profile characteristics of growth you know who is more likely to end up in the NBA . ( late free agent sign up or what)
These are Tacko fall stats in college
Freshman 7.4 pts
2nd year 11 pts
3rd year 11.3 pts
4th year 11 pts
while Rui went from 2.6 pts freshman to 20 pts as a junior.
look at the difference in rate of growth
now but people are asking but Kai did not go to college (div 1) that's actually part of the problem ,, part of making the NBA is developing throughout 18 to 22 yrs old. those who gamble and turn pro one and done are essentially going for a home run and if they fail , gone is the opporuntty , as perception like anything matters in this business especially the NBA
Capazzo in Real Madrid prior to being picked up by as NBA FA, was avg double figure pts and 7.1 league leader in Assist ( Mytical team, MVP playoffs)
Haddadi made the NBA in 2008 in a different era of Yao and others.. making the NBA as a tall center in 2023 , 15 years after is totally different dynamics
Why does it have to be considered hate , when I'm just citing historical common precedence of how players make the NBA as undrafted free agents , there are characteristic profiles of what that looks like , they're basically stars of their respective pro league.. and these are top pro leagues , this should not come as any surprise , i don't know why you guys think it's purpose knock on Kai , just because of citing these common pathways of who made it as undrafted looks like. It's not just Kai it's true for any player , off course there are exceptions.. The profile of a tall young player who was heavily recruited coming out of high school, but in basketball terms over 3 or 4 years in his regular league play isn't a starter, much more a star , is certainly different from a none 4 or 5 star college recurit , who basically doubles his stats from 1st year to 3rd year and draws so much attention , that he transfers to top recruiting school in his senior year.. (this is like the Landalle or Wetzell or Watababe profile , as compared to Tacko fall ( super high recruit as a freshman) , there is nothing personal , remove the names and personalities aside, and yes just on profile characteristics of growth you know who is more likely to end up in the NBA . ( late free agent sign up or what)
Do you really believe Kai has slim to zero chance of making it to the NBA? haha
You both have valid and good points. But I believe in the song that says:
"There can be miracles
When you believe
Though hope is frail, it's hard to kill
Who knows what miracles you can achieve?
When you believe, somehow you will
You will when you believe"
Maybe based or in line with your work time is running out for Kai or his NBA dream is already done
but not to us supporters haha. But, we will know for sure when is the right time to call it the end of Kai's NBA dream journey.
Do you really believe Kai has slim to zero chance of making it to the NBA? haha
You both have valid and good points. But I believe in the song that says:
"There can be miracles
When you believe
Though hope is frail, it's hard to kill
Who knows what miracles you can achieve?
When you believe, somehow you will
You will when you believe"
Maybe based or in line with your work time is running out for Kai or his NBA dream is already done
but not to us supporters haha. But, we will know for sure when is the right time to call it the end of Kai's NBA dream journey.
Its really hard to make the NBA. Especially for an undrafted player like Kai. Not impossible but slim to none is right.
Well it's CJ's neck on the chopping board if the team fails to make the playoffs. Vets were brought in to boost their chances. He's had a lot of coaching booboos but and I may not agree with his rotation but I can understand why he's reluctant to give extended minutes to Kai.
Yeah tough to be a coach, If Im in his shoes i wont even listen to all the backlash Il just do things to ensure Il keep my job and win
Nothing is statistically impossible, but we do have historical probability , and really someone who was not invited to the combine and G- league camp on his draft year does have low probability of ever being signed , the chances even go lower when in the succeeding year he avg less than 15 min and 7 pts for his regular league play.. You can do the research and math to find out what the success rate is for players with similar characteristics
Age is not the dominant factor : this you will find has more correlation to making the nba
league play major league
25 to 20 mins avg - high chance to play in the NBA
24 to 16 ,mins - medium to low chance to play in the NBA
15 mins or less - deads na lol
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