Filipino Players in Foreign Leagues

[DAdmiral]

The thing is if Kai is the NBA ala Landale route or Campazzo for guards , his trajectory and pace of development over the last 3 years, with the benefit of highly publicized programs Ignite and NBL, hasn't been good.
Take example Rui, and take a look at his growth from Freshman sophomore to a junior. Kai currently would be junior age . (Especially in basketball years removed from high school..

His profile growth rate does not fit, the Landale type route.
Look how bad Landale stats were as a freshman and fast forward 3yrs and 5 yrs , its really a different player.

Kai essentially has to be more or late bloomer type who started the gsme late , but that is really not his profile, Kai from a young age was a phenom type and exposure to gsme was early.

It's very difficult for one and done types (the guys who joined Ignit e) to re invent themselves and be a late bloomer type. , very rare .
The other thing is Kai is super super exposed in NBA circles, and for whatever reason that exposure build a reputation, on the negative side rather than positive (evident from combine snub) perception is everything in the NBA ..
Late bloomers don't have a reputation, as they were not known or exposed early in their careers

[earldeboy]

Yeh those New Zealand teams that massacred Gilas were carried by a few NBL bench players with a few NCAA guys.

I hardly recognized half the squad that New Zealand sent this weekend and I watch a lot of NBL games. I'm guessing they are NBL development players and NZLNBL level guys.

This is not to disrespect NZ in any way, but they are not as great and untouchable at the Asian level as some here think they are. The level gap is not wide if not very comparable with the best of Asia, i.e, Japan (w/ Hachimura and Watanabe), China (w/ Guo Ailun and Zhou Qi) and a complete Lebanon team.

[NOiNU]

The thing is if Kai is the NBA ala Landale route or Campazzo for guards , his trajectory and pace of development over the last 3 years, with the benefit of highly publicized programs Ignite and NBL, hasn't been good.
Take example Rui, and take a look at his growth from Freshman sophomore to a junior. Kai currently would be junior age . (Especially in basketball years removed from high school..

His profile growth rate does not fit, the Landale type route.
Look how bad Landale stats were as a freshman and fast forward 3yrs and 5 yrs , its really a different player.

Hasn’t been good by whose standards, yours? People have been posting numbers vis a vis other players and you seem to not have noticed or completely chose to ignore it? Why? His last season’s numbers albeit not eye popping, were decent. It’s unfair to judge Kai’s progress by virtue of his recent NBL play because he is operating on a short lease and limited minutes.

I’d be the first to admit Kai’s progress isn’t ideal, even for my liking. But he isn’t stagnant, he keeps on improving, and that’s all that matters. You compare Kai’s performances a year back, and it’s obvious he has made some strides.

[ccharmed]

Hasn’t been good by whose standards, yours? People have been posting numbers vis a vis other players and you seem to not have noticed or completely chose to ignore it? Why? His last season’s numbers albeit not eye popping, were decent. It’s unfair to judge Kai’s progress by virtue of his recent NBL play because he is operating on a short lease and limited minutes.

I’d be the first to admit Kai’s progress isn’t ideal, even for my liking. But he isn’t stagnant, he keeps on improving, and that’s all that matters. You compare Kai’s performances a year back, and it’s obvious he has made some strides.

Yes. Kai will likely have a good full fiba year's worth of experience next year. It will do him a lot of good, whether he plays well in the nbl or not.

[earldeboy]

Hold on to your panties. its just a friendly/ But great stats for Juan in a non bearing game

I've seen the full game. His shots weren't really falling, his playmaking and passing though was good.

[NOiNU]

If we compare Kai's numbers this year to his rookie season, he is averaging less points, rebounds, assists, FG%, 3PTFG%, FT% and minutes.

Players in their 2nd year are supposed to improve rapidly and Kai has been steadily declining. If this downward trend continues Adelaide definitely won't pick up the team option.

His price will also be affected on the open market. Teams certainly aren't going to offer huge amounts on an import player who averages 4pts & 4 rebs.

You seem to forgot how good Franks and the other imports are this season. Adelaide is built to win now. I have no complaints whatsoever about Kai’s minutes, though I would love it to be at 15mpg. Didn’t factor in Drmic, who happened to be a glue guy. But to judge him through that, I don’t think that’s being fair to Kai.

[NOiNU]

Look at Sam Froling's first and second year numbers and compare them to Kai's.

https://www.proballers.com/basketball/player/70050/samson-froling

https://www.proballers.com/basketball/player/175078/kai-sotto

That is the type of improvement Kai should be showing to be considered a promising prospect.

Agree, but then again, context. Adl is loaded now. Some even see them as title contenders.

[ccharmed]

This pinoy thread has really puzzled me. Why are lovers of aussie and kiwi ball lurking here like some kind of vermin? There are aussie and kiwi threads already in this forum. They can hate on kai all they want for all eternity on the aussie and kiwi threads.

Nobody but nobody is aiming to beat the aussies and kiwis in global basketball. The nba-powered american beast, and endgame-satanic spanish nt are the teams to beat for all nts.. La ignorancia es grata...

[NOiNU]

CJ has already criticised Kai for coming to the Adelaide preseason not in the shape that is required.

This shows a lack of professionalism on Kai's part and didn't impress the coach from the get go.

If Kai spent the whole offseason improving his fitness than maybe he would getting much more playing time now.

The other reason he is not getting a lot of playing time is simply because he gets cooked daily in practice.

Trust me the coaches who oversee the players training day in and day out would have a better idea than anyone on here.

Of course they do, but that’s besides the point. Kai is taken out even when he’s doing good and the unit is actually winning. What more when he’s struggling? This is what happens when you have Johnson and Franks up front, and some wings that Coach CJ dispatches as small ball 4s. I think what we all can agree (except for the fanatics) is that Kai is match up prone. Even Kai knows, evidenced by his post draft interview.

[thatweirdguy]

Of course they do, but that?s besides the point. Kai is taken out even when he?s doing good and the unit is actually winning. What more when he?s struggling? This is what happens when you have Johnson and Franks up front, and some wings that Coach CJ dispatches as small ball 4s. I think what we all can agree (except for the fanatics) is that Kai is match up prone. Even Kai knows, evidenced by his post draft interview.

Well it's CJ's neck on the chopping board if the team fails to make the playoffs. Vets were brought in to boost their chances. He's had a lot of coaching booboos but and I may not agree with his rotation but I can understand why he's reluctant to give extended minutes to Kai.

[PeeZones]

to the freddie abuda lovers.haha here are the rebound leaders of NBL.

Keanu Pinder 10 28.42min
Sam Froling 9 25.61min
Aron Baynes 8.4 23.49min
Xavier Cooks 8.3 27.29min
Rashad Kelly 8.2 24.19min
Kai Sotto 4.3rebs 10minutes kai has the highest reb if we based it on per 40min.hahahaha

https://www.instagram.com/p/Ck63_mUB...TGkl_PWBzyt2Po

ADL has been mediocre for the longest time with DJ at the helm. It would still be the same if they wont change it this season.haha

[The_Big_Cat]

Lets see what happens when Adelaide brings in their new import.

If they bring in a guard as expected that might be good for Kai.

If they bring in a defensive minded rebounding beast that plays the 4/5, Kai's gametime might be reduced to DNP-CD.

I read Adelaide has elevated their developmental player Nick Marshall to the roster in lieu of the disgruntled Craig Randall.

https://nbl.com.au/news/franks-praises-fearless-nick-marshall

Obviously coach Brutton has first hand of what is going on during practices on who are performing well in practices to be rewarded with significant minutes in the NBL. Brutton is the boss. They are serious with winning as even they sacked/fired/parted ways with the NBLs current leading scorer Randall. The tipping point (as per overtime program) was when Brutton had asked Randall to come off the bench and Randall did not want to come off the bench.

Clearly Adelaide does not want any prima donnas in the team and that no one player is above the team.

[Silent Killer]

This pinoy thread has really puzzled me. Why are lovers of aussie and kiwi ball lurking here like some kind of vermin? There are aussie and kiwi threads already in this forum. They can hate on kai all they want for all eternity on the aussie and kiwi threads.

Nobody but nobody is aiming to beat the aussies and kiwis in global basketball. The nba-powered american beast, and endgame-satanic spanish nt are the teams to beat for all nts.. La ignorancia es grata...

any nationality can post here in philippine threads. no rules that prevent other nationalities to post in other continent threads.. i even post in europe and no one complains..

[PeeZones]

Check how Dwairi bulldozes over NZ.haha Dwairi look normal playing against 20yr old Kai Sotto but against NZ he was a monster.haha

[Dotch]

He actually only has 2 TOs based on this statsheet. But he also shot 16 times to get 13 points. Most misses came from behind the arc.

LOL. Reamily, what's with this Anti-Juan Propaganda?