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  • Originally posted by Rocco
    So now people are making a huge fuss about rebounding and have suddenly downplayed scoring and shooting efficiency.

    Why is it when Kai has a good rebounding game people downplay it because he?s 7 feet and ask for more scoring, but when Kai has a good scoring and shooting game the talk then shifts to rebounding?
    Hahaha typical pinoy regardless of location or claimed nationality

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    • Originally posted by coach cj View Post
      I think Kai is a better rebounder now than last year. Positions himself the right way and box out before looking for the ball.

      Maybe people in this thread are just in awe how the hell a PG 6'1" having more rebounds than their bigs haha.

      Well, I'm not one of these folks since I kind of expected that from MVP iskati. That's his normal game.

      And our bigs where also doing their part putting their bodies inside and boxing out. I'm not sure why the ball keeps falling near iskati

      or is it iskati's quickness to position himself in an advantage to grab the rebounds haha. High motor and never looked fatigue. Iskati is our best PG for the world cup.

      MVP ISKATI > Mitch McCarron lol

      Kai had a solid game. I could never asked for more as he should composure the whole game. It looked like he carried the whole gilas team in that second half.

      Japeth and Koume always solid defender. It was a great game. Coach Chot and Cone was proactive than reactive during that game. In game adjustment was

      amazing testament to their long successful PBA coaching career.
      Having Coach Tim really was a great addition, instead of having "just" Josh as lead assistant

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      • Originally posted by carmelo7 View Post
        Having Coach Tim really was a great addition, instead of having "just" Josh as lead assistant
        There was this one moment in the game, forgot what quarter was it, when the camera show coach Tim saying something to coach Chot, sayang we could not hear what coach Tim was saying...
        Last edited by fadzki; 11-11-2022, 04:57 AM.

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        • Originally posted by fadzki View Post
          There was this one moment in the game forgot what quarter was it when the camera shown Tim saying something to coach Chot, sayang we could not hear what coach Tim was saying...
          I think it was when Jordan made a run and was up by 5 during the 2nd qtr 33-28

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          • Originally posted by fadzki View Post
            There was this one moment in the game, forgot what quarter was it, when the camera show coach Tim saying something to coach Chot, sayang we could not hear what coach Tim was saying...
            I saw that. I think Jordan made a run and Chot called a timeout. Tim talked to Chot for several seconds before Chot could get to the players. It looks like Cone will take the reins of the team after 2023.

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            • Cone noticed the match ups, by playing Japeth and Kai together matched up vs the Jordan 4 (who was really a wing ) required an adjustment, so after time out , Kai was subbed out to match up.
              It was Chot's instructions and adjustment after talking to Cone .

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              • Nba Dream Toxic Discussion aside.

                Kai at 20 yrs old in Fiba Asia level is doing good.

                In 5 years time. I bet he will be a top 7, if not top 5 Center in Asia. (Barring Any Injuries)

                Again, just in Fiba Asia Context.

                I hope AJ can recover to 100% health.

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                • Originally posted by DAdmiral View Post
                  Cone noticed the match ups, by playing Japeth and Kai together matched up vs the Jordan 4 (who was really a wing ) required an adjustment, so after time out , Kai was subbed out to match up.
                  It was Chot's instructions and adjustment after talking to Cone .
                  Difference of having a good coaching staff, if SBP can do it in the seniors, hopefully they can replicate it on the jrs. also, Josh will still be the coach of course but SBP should surround him with capable assistant coaches.

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                  • Originally posted by mathematicianrcg View Post
                    Nba Dream Toxic Discussion aside.

                    Kai at 20 yrs old in Fiba Asia level is doing good.

                    In 5 years time. I bet he will be a top 7, if not top 5 Center in Asia. (Barring Any Injuries)

                    Again, just in Fiba Asia Context.

                    I hope AJ can recover to 100% health.

                    He was match up against an Euro league veteran pala!

                    Ahmet D?verioğlu (born 4 March 1993), known as Ahmad Hekmat Al-Dwairi in Jordan, is a Turkish-Jordanian international professional basketball player for Frutti Extra Bursaspor of the Turkish Basketbol S?per Ligi (BSL). He uses his Turkish passport in the EuroLeague competition.

                    His best performance with Fenerbah?e in the EuroLeague was against Panathinaikos Superfoods, in game where he had 13 points, 4 rebounds, 1 assist and 1 block, in 15 mins 30 seconds of playing time

                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmet_...Cverio%C4%9Flu

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                    • ^
                      Having a passport (Euro or Asian ) is really a factor on why certain players can play in Euro league or Australia NBL, why ? Cause they eventually make the league as a special restricted player (Euro or Asian passport). Realize 1GDL has a Euro passport (Spanish).
                      It's really much more difficult to make it as an open import classification (cause you're competing vs everyone (mostly Americans)

                      Another example is NP Majok of Lebanon, he has an Australian passport so played in the NBL as a local, while other NP do not make the grade as open import in the NBL (Many of which are NBA players )
                      Last edited by DAdmiral; 11-11-2022, 05:53 AM.

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                      • Originally posted by DAdmiral View Post
                        ^
                        Having a passport (Euro or Asian ) is really a factor on why certain players can play in Euro league or Australia NBL, why ? Cause they eventually make the league as a special restricted player (Euro or Asian passport). Realize 1GDL has a Euro passport (Spanish).
                        It's really much more difficult to make it as an open import classification (cause you're competing vs everyone (mostly Americans)
                        Another option for Dalph Panapio and Will Navarro I guess

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                        • And the great Hyrum Harris which CJ always prefer to give more minutes and role than Kai Sotto in Adelaide

                          played 28:29 minutes on 1 of 3 2 point field goal and 0 of 2 in 3 points scoring 7 points overall with 8 rebounds

                          in a losing effort against Lebanon 77-65 haha

                          So much for Tall Blacks who plays small ball. Not so tall at all lol

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                          • Originally posted by DAdmiral View Post
                            Absolutely any individual including me can calculate what Kai's salary range based on the public information provided ( verified ) , how ? the top 16 list of salary earned are published , then we also have the reports of the total spend of the team ( note this is a soft cap, not a hard cap , what this means is while Kai's salary is not part counted as part of the cap, it is included in the total spend report .

                            if you just read what you posted you will realise the cap is in reference to PV ( player value) , so basically the way they regulate spend is based on how many players you have per PV

                            example of PV (player value classification)
                            How many Marquee players (max 4)
                            how many import
                            how many DP
                            how many NS
                            5 bench players etc etc

                            Now do the math , the 36ers where obligated to submit their total spend for last season the total spend was $ 1.5 M , 140 k below the $ 1.7 . note total spend is NOT the CAP , it's offical accounting records

                            so this is the math , Mitch at least $ 300k ( confirmed reported ) , Humpries $ 400 K ( again confirmed ) , DJ (200k) imports Hannahs and Withers ( 175 k each ) at least , - So that adds up to $ 1.2 M for top 5 players , there is $ 300k balance , the development player and next star King (paid by NBL) i will assume as zero salary ( which is silly already) , so there are 4 regular remaining players to share $ 300 k ( note 11 contracted players in roster) . let's just assume the 3 others except Kai get the mininum, around $ 50 K, so there.. you only have $ 150 k remaining for Kai.
                            Again this is not a salary cap report but a spend report ( mandated by the NBL offcies )

                            so abosolutely any person with access to the public records when calculated can estimate Kai's salary to be no more than $ 150 k , this is not guess work , but actually computed and verified using logic with the figures provided by the NBL

                            i guess to hard for you figure out ?
                            Gideon and Analyze you were just stating mere opinions on the supposed Kai salary based on your estimates. so those sites who estimated kai salary were so wrong and yours was correct?haha Just simply show proof. Mas reliable ba kayu dito?
                            https://www.josecolorado.com/blog/Au...tball-salaries
                            So when considering Kai Sotto?s international appeal, his designation as a SRP and the pay scale of NBL Marquee Players and imports, it wouldn?t be unfair to speculate the big man is making anywhere between $150k - $300k USD (200k - 400k AUD) for his three-year deal.

                            If we based it on your logic, why is zhou qi earning twice than JLA, Mitch creek or Xavier Cooks? DJ is on the tail-end of his career. He might score big sometimes but he cant consistently do it and a liability on defense.

                            Kai's salary is not part of ADL's salary cap. ADL could give Kai whatever amount they want. Para lang yang insistence mu na after TSF si Kai wala ng mapupuntahan at walang kukuha then nagsign sa Ignite.haha or after Kai being undrafted sobra ninyu nagcelebrate na pangpba or pangbleague lang si Kai then kinuha ng Wasserman.haha Puro lang kayu Hula wala naman proof!
                            Last edited by PeeZones; 11-11-2022, 09:32 AM.

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                            • Also regarding Kai's perf yesterday, Kai is still a 20yr old. He was outweighed by Dwairi by at least 30pounds more or less. Kai was really great playing at around 20minutes.

                              Yung iba dito gagawin pang Freddie abuda or dennis rodman si Kai.haha Kai had the highest rebounds among all our bigs. Cone transferred Kai to guard the 4 because he will tire faster being the defender of the biggest opponent while trying to make something on offense. Anong gusto niyu kay Kai that he will dominate both ends? Anthony Davis can't even do that.

                              Here is Giannis stat last Fiba world cup when he was nearing 20yrs old. https://www.fiba.basketball/en/playe...-Antetokounmpo

                              6.3pts 4.3rebs 0.3ast

                              Chet against those his age fiba U19.
                              11.9pts 6.1rebs 3.3ast

                              Then si Kai 7rebs kalaban matatanda daming problema? kalaban si dwairi?haha itapat mu si Wemby at Chet kay Dwairi baka isang bangga nastrecher na yung dalawa.haha Too much unrealistic expectation.haha
                              Last edited by PeeZones; 11-11-2022, 09:46 AM.

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                              • Originally posted by PeeZones View Post
                                Gideon and Analyze you were just stating mere opinions on the supposed Kai salary based on your estimates. so those sites who estimated kai salary were so wrong and yours was correct?haha Just simply show proof. Mas reliable ba kayu dito?
                                [URL="https://www.josecolorado.com/blog/Australia-nbl-basketball-salaries"]https://www.josecolorado.com/blog/Australia-nbl-basketball-salaries[
                                Absolutely the spend report (not salary cap based on # of PV) is 100 % more accurate than that article you posted.. It's littierally a report from the NBL Offices . Don't you understand that?
                                These are not my opinions, it's littierally a published report released by NBL office. They littierally published the names and salary of the top 16 earners .
                                Pay is not based on performance, Humphries got a big pay check cause he was in demand when he signed his contract, JLA was a imitd minute reserve back up to Landale when he signed his contract. (So was under valued)

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