Philippines Senior National Team Thread Vol. V

[DAdmiral]

After the draft the possible Gilas pool did improve a bit but most of the bigs need that FIBA exemption

FIBA eligible:

Needs FIBA exemption:
Zavier Lucero
Luis Villegas
Keith Datu
Christian David
Brandon Bates

Problem is FIBA guidelines for exception to an age cutt of rule (U16) puts emphasis on establishing residency in one's formative years ( in teens at least while still in school). If mere residency years is only criteria then all Japanese B league resident imports will eventually be exempted which clearly isn't correct.

Note the purpose of the Hagop U16 rule is to encourage youth development basketball heritage within the country.

As a rule of thumb, one either has to
1. Represent BG at U18 (latest ) or
2 enter as an 18 year old freshman in Philippine colleges for 5 years

[Dotch]

not the same in 5x5. simple, you have passport of your country and reside for at least a year and your good to go as local.. in 3x3 OQT, we parade tautuaa and munzon who are both ineligibles in 5x5 same in 2018 3x3 world cup where CS and pringle are 5x5 ineligibles

I wonder if we pry Ben Mbala out and have him switch nationalities, will FIBA allow him to play in the PHL 3x3 squad even if he had already played for Cameroon's 5x5 NT

[Silent Killer]

Is the Hagop rule enforced in 3x3 competitions?

Those ineligibles would make good fits as they are all stretch bigs.

not the same in 5x5. simple, you have passport of your country and reside for at least a year and your good to go as local.. in 3x3 OQT, we parade tautuaa and munzon who are both ineligibles in 5x5 same in 2018 3x3 world cup where CS and pringle are 5x5 ineligibles

[Dotch]

I was one of those wanting Arvin to go to Gilas as a 6'5" wing who can score, but now, I have Will Navarro, Jamie Malonzo, Calvin Oftana, Francis Lopez, and maybe guys like Caelum Harris above him at the 3. Defense is key at that position.

But but...the Duke and Rhode Island try-out invitations.

[IPC]

Arvin Tolentino is thrash, don't ever include that dude in any gilas iteration. Chris Ross and Cio are retireable right now still like our chances againts Iran tomorrow. Sa China if no cooking show we have a slight shot haha

Agree people were hyping Tolentino because of what he has done with Northport where he has the green light to shoot, the guy is able to put up points because he is their best shooter but he is a defensive liability at the wing position. Ross and Lassitier have slowed down and I think this should be the last time they are called up for the national team. But Im hoping that they get past Iran tomorrow and advance to the semifinals. And if somehow Gilas wins against China in the semifinals to me that is equivalent of a gold medal already lol

I was one of those wanting Arvin to go to Gilas as a 6'5" wing who can score, but now, I have Will Navarro, Jamie Malonzo, Calvin Oftana, Francis Lopez, and maybe guys like Caelum Harris above him at the 3. Defense is key at that position.

As for Ross and Marcio, yeah, it's time for them to give way to younger players, starting in February. Ross is 38 (and ineligible anyways), and Marcio is 36.

[hmbopbaduwap]

Is the Hagop rule enforced in 3x3 competitions?

Those ineligibles would make good fits as they are all stretch bigs.

Cstand and Pringle were able to play together in the 3x3 World Cup back in 2018

[sroth3839]

After the draft the possible Gilas pool did improve a bit but most of the bigs need that FIBA exemption

FIBA eligible:
Deschon Winston
Kenneth Tuffin
Ricci Rivero
Kemark Carino

Needs FIBA exemption:
Zavier Lucero
Luis Villegas
Keith Datu
Christian David
Brandon Bates

Is the Hagop rule enforced in 3x3 competitions?

Those ineligibles would make good fits as they are all stretch bigs.

[xenoloxy]

After the draft the possible Gilas pool did improve a bit but most of the bigs need that FIBA exemption

FIBA eligible:
Deschon Winston
Kenneth Tuffin
Ricci Rivero
Kemark Carino

Needs FIBA exemption:
Zavier Lucero
Luis Villegas
Keith Datu
Christian David
Brandon Bates

Lucero is a must

[r1ck]

After the draft the possible Gilas pool did improve a bit but most of the bigs need that FIBA exemption

FIBA eligible:
Deschon Winston
Kenneth Tuffin
Ricci Rivero
Kemark Carino

Needs FIBA exemption:
Zavier Lucero
Luis Villegas
Keith Datu
Christian David
Brandon Bates

[hmbopbaduwap]

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[Giannis34GOD]

Correct. It should be a pool of players practicing/playing/scrimmaging together for a 4-year cycle.

The ideal No. of players in that pool should be around 24. Having too many players in the pool will also have some detrimental effect.

Actually 16 - 18 players are already enough...

[xenoloxy]

Gilas drastically reducing triangle sets in the first quarter. I've only counted two possessions where they ran sets out of a vanilla triangle. They mostly ran a spread out offense where there are more possibilities of three point shots being taken, and they are not afraid of taking shots early in the shotclock. Unlike their first 3 games, they also mixed up their defense, going from a full court press to a 2-3 zone. Good adjustments from Tim Cone.

Granted that the opponent is significantly weaker though thus Gilas showing their superiority is a given, I think Tim Cone is looking more like a FIBA coach in that first quarter.

Cone has been tweaking his system over recent years to modernize it

[reamily]

Gilas drastically reducing triangle sets in the first quarter. I've only counted two possessions where they ran sets out of a vanilla triangle. They mostly ran a spread out offense where there are more possibilities of three point shots being taken, and they are not afraid of taking shots early in the shotclock. Unlike their first 3 games, they also mixed up their defense, going from a full court press to a 2-3 zone. Good adjustments from Tim Cone.

Granted that the opponent is significantly weaker though thus Gilas showing their superiority is a given, I think Tim Cone is looking more like a FIBA coach in that first quarter.

I thought we only show it on semis pa..Ginebra doesnt really set on triangle mainly..

[System]

Gilas drastically reducing triangle sets in the first quarter. I've only counted two possessions where they ran sets out of a vanilla triangle. They mostly ran a spread out offense where there are more possibilities of three point shots being taken, and they are not afraid of taking shots early in the shotclock. Unlike their first 3 games, they also mixed up their defense, going from a full court press to a 2-3 zone. Good adjustments from Tim Cone.

Granted that the opponent is significantly weaker though thus Gilas showing their superiority is a given, I think Tim Cone is looking more like a FIBA coach in that first quarter.

[JAMSKIE]

After this Asiad, SBP better start looking for a coach that is interested in a long-term project, build up for 2027, get a system good for international play, and get as many players as possible that can play in 2027 (meaning get as many players that are not too old for that). Similar to Germany's 3-year project.

Correct. It should be a pool of players practicing/playing/scrimmaging together for a 4-year cycle.

The ideal No. of players in that pool should be around 24. Having too many players in the pool will also have some detrimental effect.