Philippines Senior National Team Thread Vol. V

[Silent Killer]

No love for KQ?

Also worth mentioning are JD Cagulangan (now playing in the KBL) & Matt Wright (though he's old already)

If I'm the Gilas coach, here are the college players I will be looking upon as national team prospects:

Lopez, Mark Gil Belmonte, VJ Pre, Nic Cabanero, Figueroa, Bayla, Justin Sanchez.

oh sorry. forgot to add..

[JAMSKIE]

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I've said this countless of times na, that the greatest advantage of having a Gilas team composed of non-PBA players is that those players would be available to play in FIBA tournaments like the Asia Cup & World Cup simply becoz the pro leagues where these players play are calendared in synchronized with FIBA calendar. We can't say the same about our beloved PBA. Kaya nga in the upcoming 2025 FIBA Asia Cup, our Gilas team will get only around 9 days of preparation becoz our beloved PBA will end its 2024-2025 season much later than all the other pro leagues in Asia & Oceania.

U bet that by early or mid-June, tapos na po yung seasons ng B-league, KBL, CBA & all the professional leagues in Asia & Oceania. U bet that by the 3rd or 4th week of June, the national teams of Japan, Sokor, China, Iran, Jordan, Qatar, Taiwan, Saudi Arabia, etc., will be starting their respective national team training camps. This gives them more than a month of preparation & training.

Of course mas maganda naman talaga that we have a Gilas team with the best PBA talents in tow. We can't deny that a good No. of our Gilas key players are playing in the PBA - Newsome, Iskati, Junmar, Oftana. In fact we have a good number of PBA players who could also be good national team prospects if given the chance - Bolick, Jordan Heading, Baltazar, Schonny Winston, Adrian Nocum. But it would be better that in every FIBA tournament our Gilas team composed of PBA, B-league, KBL players will have at least a month of full time training prior to such tournament.

[Dotch]

Kai
Aj
Ange
Tamayo
Thirdy
Kiefer
BRP jr.
SJ
Dave (though MPBL)
Possibly Ron Harper Jr.
Panopio
Javi
Kquiam

from HS/collegiate ranks
Bahay
Gemao
Alas
Cabonillas
Daep
Lopez
Pre

Free Agent: Abando

Solid PHL NT if it is made up of Non-PBA Players

PG- SJ
OG - KQ
SF - Carl
PF - AJ
C - Kai

Subs:

PG - Kieffer
OG - Rhenz
G/F - BRP
G/F - Javi
C - Ange

F/C - Amos
C - Chiu

[IPC]

we have lots of players abroad.. it can survive without it..

Kai
Aj
Ange
Tamayo
Thirdy
Kiefer
BRP jr.
SJ
Dave (though MPBL)
Possibly Ron Harper Jr.
Panopio
Javi
Kquiam

from HS/collegiate ranks
Bahay
Gemao
Alas
Cabonillas
Daep
Lopez
Pre

Free Agent: Abando

No love for KQ?

Also worth mentioning are JD Cagulangan (now playing in the KBL) & Matt Wright (though he's old already)

If I'm the Gilas coach, here are the college players I will be looking upon as national team prospects:

Lopez, Mark Gil Belmonte, VJ Pre, Nic Cabanero, Figueroa, Bayla, Justin Sanchez.

oh sorry. forgot to add..

^ ^ ^ ^ ^

I've said this countless of times na, that the greatest advantage of having a Gilas team composed of non-PBA players is that those players would be available to play in FIBA tournaments like the Asia Cup & World Cup simply becoz the pro leagues where these players play are calendared in synchronized with FIBA calendar. We can't say the same about our beloved PBA. Kaya nga in the upcoming 2025 FIBA Asia Cup, our Gilas team will get only around 9 days of preparation becoz our beloved PBA will end its 2024-2025 season much later than all the other pro leagues in Asia & Oceania.

U bet that by early or mid-June, tapos na po yung seasons ng B-league, KBL, CBA & all the professional leagues in Asia & Oceania. U bet that by the 3rd or 4th week of June, the national teams of Japan, Sokor, China, Iran, Jordan, Qatar, Taiwan, Saudi Arabia, etc., will be starting their respective national team training camps. This gives them more than a month of preparation & training.

Of course mas maganda naman talaga that we have a Gilas team with the best PBA talents in tow. We can't deny that a good No. of our Gilas key players are playing in the PBA - Newsome, Iskati, Junmar, Oftana. In fact we have a good number of PBA players who could also be good national team prospects if given the chance - Bolick, Jordan Heading, Baltazar, Schonny Winston, Adrian Nocum. But it would be better that in every FIBA tournament our Gilas team composed of PBA, B-league, KBL players will have at least a month of full time training prior to such tournament.

Solid PHL NT if it is made up of Non-PBA Players

PG- SJ
OG - KQ
SF - Carl
PF - AJ
C - Kai

Subs:

PG - Kieffer
OG - Rhenz
G/F - BRP
G/F - Javi
C - Ange

F/C - Amos
C - Chiu

I think we should ask who among the PBA players in the pool are replaceable with a player from outside the PBA, and with whom are they replaceable.

That's JB, Scottie, Newsome, CJ, Oftana, Malonzo, June Mar, Japeth, and Troy. Are they replaceable, and who can we replace them with?

[Dotch]

So it has come to this, Ange Koume, National Team Player, humbly playing in an Inter-Baranggay League in Bulacan, because of lack of opportunities playing in the highest level in his adapted country.

In one play, he was deliberately knee'd by his tambay opponent on his left knee, he was visibly in pain as he winced on the floor for several minutes. He continued to play but he was hobbling the rest of the game.

Look for it in Facebook. It is so upsetting.

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/16KtQVfvFj/

[BJ_Reloaded]

SBP should also prepare seriously on the coming THA SEAG this December

we have to be aware that the host country will parade a much improve roster composed of the core of the recent FIBA Asia Cup pre-qualifiers

expect the dangerous Tyler Lamb will play plus some ineligibles who is under the radar...Eat Bulaga!!

same thing with Vietnam who also had a handful of hafus playing in their own domestic league as well

Indonesia is worrisome as usual

Cambodia with it's foreign line-up plus some more??

I think the SEAG Comm will still implement that "Only Passport" Policy on all discipline

now it's a good opportunity on us to parade those young ineligibles who had a fighting chance to get exempted

like Mike Philips, AK34, Sedrick Barefield, Zav Lucero, Kai Ballungay among others

coach CTC should not really handled the team instead let coach Tinyente will do it...maybe an active consultant is highly recommended

it doesn't really compose of our A-team considering their respective club teams are still in the middle of their respective tournaments.

forget that 1 week training that 2023 Cambodia SEAG is really an eye opener on all of us.

[Silent Killer]

I think we should ask who among the PBA players in the pool are replaceable with a player from outside the PBA, and with whom are they replaceable.

That's JB, Scottie, Newsome, CJ, Oftana, Malonzo, June Mar, Japeth, and Troy. Are they replaceable, and who can we replace them with?

Kiefer > scottie
BRP Jr. > Perez
Harper Jr. > Brownlee
Javi > Malonzo

[JAMSKIE]

Kiefer > scottie
BRP Jr. > Perez
Harper Jr. > Brownlee
Javi > Malonzo

I don't think Javi GDL is a better player than Malonzo in the FIBA game. Javi GDL got to play for Gilas senior team only in 2020 in a qualifying window for the 2022 FIBA Asia Cup. Javi GDL did well for Gilas, but that was Gilas games vs. a lowly team Thailand which didn't even have a Tyler Lamb & or Freddie Lish.

[C2Hamm]

I think we should ask who among the PBA players in the pool are replaceable with a player from outside the PBA, and with whom are they replaceable.

That's JB, Scottie, Newsome, CJ, Oftana, Malonzo, June Mar, Japeth, and Troy. Are they replaceable, and who can we replace them with?

another way of looking at it, is instead of purely replacing 1 player with another, why dont you\we replace by role? if you remove JB, you give replace him with Boatwright. technically, you can replace the role of JMF with Boatwright and then that opens up Tamayo or Kq replacing the role of JB.

same with Scottie, CJ, Oftana, and Malonzo, instead of replacing per player, you can go Kieffer\Heading\Dwight any 2 at same time to offset playmaking and ballhandling of Scottie and heaing and dwight carry the 3pt shooting of Oftana. and although we dont have a defensive minded wing like Malonzo, you can counter that by adding a BRP or Gutang who both gives you the slashing of CJ plus added shooting. KQ, who doesnt seem to have lots of mins to begin with, can eat on Malonzo's mins as well.

its only Newsome who i cant wrap my head around what to do. its kinda heavy if you replace him and Scottie. the ball handling can be fixed by multiple players like my example above. but if Newsome, Scottie, Malonzo and Japeth all go same, we better have very good 3pt shooting because thats a lot of defense lost.

[Silent Killer]

I don't think Javi GDL is a better player than Malonzo in the FIBA game. Javi GDL got to play for Gilas senior team only in 2020 in a qualifying window for the 2022 FIBA Asia Cup. Javi GDL did well for Gilas, but that was Gilas games vs. a lowly team Thailand which didn't even have a Tyler Lamb & or Freddie Lish.

Malonzo so far as been a bust as a gilas player. While javi improved a lot thru the years of playing in terrafirma and now is doing well with anyang. Playing to his role.. javi getting positive feedbacks from the team and fans

[zairex]

Malonzo so far as been a bust as a gilas player. While javi improved a lot thru the years of playing in terrafirma and now is doing well with anyang. Playing to his role.. javi getting positive feedbacks from the team and fans

Jaime was doing very well before the FIBA WC before he got injured. I think at this time Javi hasn't proven he can defend players at Asia level.

[lem0nadi]

To be fair for Jamie, he was an explosive player for Gilas prior to that awful injury.

Right now, it is up to him if that kind of game will show up again in Gilas uniform, if he purposedly changed his game to avoid injuries, that is where replacing him would be valid, because his game right now is not beneficial to Gilas.

[Rds]

To be fair for Jamie, he was an explosive player for Gilas prior to that awful injury.

Right now, it is up to him if that kind of game will show up again in Gilas uniform, if he purposedly changed his game to avoid injuries, that is where replacing him would be valid, because his game right now is not beneficial to Gilas.

I haven't watched Jamie lately. From what I saw before he was tentative. He seems to be scoring well as of late. Why do you say it is not beneficial to Gilas?

[lem0nadi]

I haven't watched Jamie lately. From what I saw before he was tentative. He seems to be scoring well as of late. Why do you say it is not beneficial to Gilas?

Because if scoring in PBA is what he can do at best right now, do you think that would translate to Gilas?

Calvin Oftana, CJ Perez are scorer in the league yet they can't do those thing in international, atelast Calvin can defend

Jamie's role with Gilas before was to defend, he can't do that yet the way he was on his pre-injury form, right now.

I think he would have made a difference if he was playing like his oldself in that Taipei, NZ game. The scorers from the opponents mostly came from Wings, Te Ranggi and that classmate of Kai.

He could have defended them well.

[thatweirdguy]

Because if scoring in PBA is what he can do at best right now, do you think that would translate to Gilas?

Calvin Oftana, CJ Perez are scorer in the league yet they can't do those thing in international, atelast Calvin can defend

Jamie's role with Gilas before was to defend, he can't do that yet the way he was on his pre-injury form, right now.

I think he would have made a difference if he was playing like his oldself in that Taipei, NZ game. The scorers from the opponents mostly came from Wings, Te Ranggi and that classmate of Kai.

He could have defended them well.

Replace Jaime with Navarro. You get better defence, ball handling to offset the possibly worse shooting which is to be fair Jaime isn't really scoring much. I'm curious though if we can groom him to eventually succeed Newsome whos in his mid 30s already