Philippines Senior National Team Thread Vol. V

[Sikatrix]

FIBA rules are simple, actually: Show me the money.

I actually agree. Not necessarily corruption but the growth of the sport from a financial sense.

[DAdmiral]

So basically we are being penalized because we love basketball. FIBA rules are great.

It doesn't follow, promoting the growth of the sport is just one of criteria to boost one's case. , it's not one of the main criterion it's normally alloted as extra bonus point to a host ( world cup) , it's a factor not meant to replace the fundamental criteria of Residency and local play .

[Sikatrix]

It doesn't follow, promoting the growth of the sport is just one of criteria to boost one's case. , it's not one of the main criterion it's normally alloted as extra bonus point to a host ( world cup) , it's a factor not meant to replace the fundamental criteria of Residency and local play .

Its basically the only criterion in the Eric Gordon case. That and family relations obviously.

[Giannis34GOD]

Tell that to b.league..

Japan is not a basketball nation... We are a basketball nation... We have those talents, why need to tap no blood Pinoys? Can't Philippines developed useable bigs for Fiba? What the sense of being a basketball country? Why not try Geo Chiu? Other countries mocking Filipinos because they still using foreign players despite basketball is the number 1 sport here....

[Metta]

While true there is subjectivity, at the very least one should make a case using the criteria guidelines set by FIBA for exceptions , which are
1 # of years residency ( with emphasis on formative youth years.
2 # of years play in domestic league
3 other connections, ( particularly parental connction to someone from the country ( resident or citizen)

To apply for an exception for an NBA player with zero years residency is simply taking the piss.

I honestly have not followed Harris' (Qatar) case. Does he meet the requirements?

[DAdmiral]

Curiously, there are FSAs playing in both high school division of the UAAP (u-16 and the junior proper). I learned that one of them is only 14 and might finish his high school there and, possibly, pursue his bachelor's degree here. He is currently in the u-16 team of one of the UAAP schools.

How plausible for this kid to be classified as a local in case he becomes a PH citizen?

Well those cases at least take into account the set guidelines for exception I do want to note that Abassi however not only has residency from his youth years, but has actual parental lineage to a person from the country, thing going against FSA is they may not have a local parent , this however can be addressed if it can be reasonable claimed that a family and parent adopts the child in his youth.

[DAdmiral]

I honestly have not followed Harris' (Qatar) case. Does he meet the requirements?

Note they are limited to guidelines (consider # of years), they are not explicitly measurable standards ( must be 4 years minimum residency). So in that case yes Harris has years residency and domestic Qatar league play, whether it is significant enough is another thing

Now in case of Clarkson there simply is no residency years and league play to even consider..

[Giannis34GOD]

This proves that Gilas wont have role players as NP.. this kind of post proves some filos rather have blatche, kabayan and brownlee type as NP than a hawkinson, gilbeck..

And will complain if our coach relies too much on brownlee..

Because naturalized players should be one of the supposed best players in the team.. You are always looking at Japan, but outside of them, who are other countries picking role naturalized player? Spain tapped scoring guard Lorenzo Brown, Turkey tapped Shane Larkin, another scoring guard, even team USA tapped Embiid, a former NBA MVP... Japan have leverage since Rui, Watanabe and Kawamura can do the load, especially for scoring... They just need a presence downlow... Gilas need a firepower scoring guard/forward since we have Kai and Edu already... So why tap a role player for a naturalized player?

[Giannis34GOD]

Note they are limited to guidelines (consider # of years), they are not explicitly measurable standards ( must be 4 years minimum residency). So in that case yes Harris has years residency and domestic Qatar league play, whether it is significant enough is another thing

Now in case of Clarkson there simply is no residency years and league play to even consider..

Harris didn't met the requirements... He just get his passport only in 2023, He didn't continuous playing in Qatari league, as he played numerous leagues around the world... He didn't have any Qatari blood or origin by his parents or grandparents... It just Fiba gave them a "Gift" for giving them money for hosting the world cup....

[Giannis34GOD]

Qatar is being overhype right now here in the forum, but Taiwan and Saudi still better than them... Saudi split their matches vs Qatar w/ Harris and Lewis playing together in Gulf cup last year.. Saudi doesn't have naturalized yet that time... Saudi parading last window their naturalized player from Michigan Muhammad Ali Abdur Rahkman (I don't know if he have Saudi blood or origin by his parents) ...

[DAdmiral]

Harris didn't met the requirements... He just get his passport only in 2023, He didn't continuous playing in Qatari league, as he played numerous leagues around the world... He didn't have any Qatari blood or origin by his parents or grandparents... It just Fiba gave them a "Gift" for giving them money for hosting the world cup....

I don't know what you don't understand with guidelines are NOT requirement standards, as there is no qouta minimum number of years explicitly stated as required.

[ja.he]

Well those cases at least take into account the set guidelines for exception I do want to note that Abassi however not only has residency from his youth years, but has actual parental lineage to a person from the country, thing going against FSA is they may not have a local parent , this however can be addressed if it can be reasonable claimed that a family and parent adopts the child in his youth.

which is the advantage now of Brownlee, Jr.

[Metta]

Note they are limited to guidelines (consider # of years), they are not explicitly measurable standards ( must be 4 years minimum residency). So in that case yes Harris has years residency and domestic Qatar league play, whether it is significant enough is another thing

Then that's an example of a gray area subject to an evaluator's judgement.

[IPC]

Because naturalized players should be one of the supposed best players in the team.. You are always looking at Japan, but outside of them, who are other countries picking role naturalized player? Spain tapped scoring guard Lorenzo Brown, Turkey tapped Shane Larkin, another scoring guard, even team USA tapped Embiid, a former NBA MVP... Japan have leverage since Rui, Watanabe and Kawamura can do the load, especially for scoring... They just need a presence downlow... Gilas need a firepower scoring guard/forward since we have Kai and Edu already... So why tap a role player for a naturalized player?

Can we not do scoring by committee when the NP is a defensive role player? And again, we risk being a donut on defense if we lose both Kai and AJ. How do we win then?

By the way, sir SK cited Gilbeck for Taiwan. He was a big part of them winning against us last Thursday. Making stops, grabbing rebounds.

[lem0nadi]

which is the advantage now of Brownlee, Jr.

Would be useless if he is going to spend his teenage years in states, which would be most likely.