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  • #13501
    Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post
    This, to think that coach Tab's Gilas in 2021 was made up of amateur players. Amateurs pa lang sina Kai, Kouame, Dwight, Navarro, Balti, Tamayo, Heading, Belangel, Abarrientos, etc. at that time.

    Of course team defense isn't just about having a good number of decent defenders in the roster. It's also about system.
    Ange, Dwight, Navarro, and Balti were already good defenders at the time.

    But yeah, it's about both personnel and scheme. Can't have one without the other.

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    • #13502
      Originally posted by ja.he

      I don't know about that. One thing is certain, M. Phillips will eventually play for us as a local. And hopefully, his youngest brother, 6'8 Jeremiah will become also a local. The kid is only 18.
      Is Jeremiah a project like Isaiah, or he has also the potential of an 18-year old Mike Philipps?

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      • #13503
        Originally posted by lem0nadi View Post

        Is Jeremiah a project like Isaiah, or he has also the potential of an 18-year old Mike Philipps?
        Satire lang pala. (trans: Fake as sh*t) lols
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        • #13504
          Originally posted by ja.he View Post

          Satire lang pala. (trans: Fake as sh*t) lols
          Deadass thought u were serious lol, was so surprised they have another brother out of nowhere.

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          • #13505
            Originally posted by lem0nadi View Post

            Deadass thought u were serious lol, was so surprised they have another brother out of nowhere.
            But on a very serious note, how I wish that Phillips bros. have another brother with the same profile as Motor Mike that is actually eligible right now.

            Edit: This one is serious. Motor Mike will be 22 this year (born 2002 per Enzo Flojo). He has been around in the Philippines, training with the DLSU since 2019 (17 years old based on 2020 articles of Spin and TBT). Hopefully, after his DLSU stint, he considers joining the PBA and play there for a couple of years.
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            • #13506
              Originally posted by ja.he View Post

              But on a very serious note, how I wish that Phillips bros. have another brother with the same profile as Motor Mike that is actually eligible right now.

              Edit: This one is serious. Motor Mike will be 22 this year (born 2002 per Enzo Flojo). He has been around in the Philippines, training with the DLSU since 2019 (17 years old based on 2020 articles of Spin and TBT). Hopefully, after his DLSU stint, he considers joining the PBA and play there for a couple of years.
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              Speaking of which, how true is that report from a Pinoy youtube basketball blogger that a player who has not obtained passport of the country which he wants to represent prior to his 16th birthday needs at least 10 years of residency (in the country he wants to represent) for FIBA to grant him exemption? If its true then maybe Ange Kouame only has around a year or two before he gets a FIBA exemption. Maybe Mike Philipps have to wait 4 more years before he gets his own FIBA exemption.

              Of course, I take such report from that Pinoy basketball blogger with a grain of salt. Disinformation or deception is rampant in social media.
              "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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              • #13507
                Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post

                Speaking of which, how true is that report from a Pinoy youtube basketball blogger that a player who has not obtained passport of the country which he wants to represent prior to his 16th birthday needs at least 10 years of residency (in the country he wants to represent) for FIBA to grant him exemption? If its true then maybe Ange Kouame only has around a year or two before he gets a FIBA exemption. Maybe Mike Philipps have to wait 4 more years before he gets his own FIBA exemption.

                Of course, I take such report from that Pinoy basketball blogger with a grain of salt. Disinformation or deception is rampant in social media.
                No such statement is expressly provided in the eligibility rules. It's more like covered in the umbrella phrase "significant links or connections", which is used for exempting players.
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                • #13508
                  Originally posted by Giannis34GOD View Post
                  How this Lebanon, having hard time vs UAE.. Gilas lose to Lebanon big, and they have hard time vs rank number 104 team...
                  Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post
                  That's the complexities of basketball.

                  Well we have to understand that UAE now has a naturalized player. Definitely the addition of such naturalized player for UAE has made the team stronger. Perhaps the Lebanese took it easy on this game as they are already qualified.

                  Perhaps we can also say the same about Jordan in its final game vs. Iraq in which the Jordan won by only 6 pts. Perhaps the Jordanians took it easy as well since they are already qualified.

                  BTW, I don't really give too much weight on the rankings.
                  Actually, the rankings have weight when it comes to group matchups. We drop down too much in the rankings, the more likelihood that our group will be harder.

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                  • #13509
                    Originally posted by ja.he View Post

                    No such statement is expressly provided in the eligibility rules. It's more like covered in the umbrella phrase "significant links or connections", which is used for exempting players.
                    Ah ok, I get it. There's no specific but it could be that "10 years" is the magic number as far as residency is concerned.
                    "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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                    • #13510
                      Originally posted by noyce View Post

                      1. based from YT bball bloggers, insistence to use drop coverage to cover for Junemar and Kai. but now that AJ is there, still drop coverage is employed, wherein other coverages may not result into late 3-pt closeouts.
                      2. players go under the screens (not sure if this is by design)
                      3. no one talks about this but i noticed a lot of Brownlee late closeouts. the issue with superhuman Brownlee performance is we cant blame him if difficult to play intense defense anymore
                      1. TC is about protecting the paint and getting rebounds. As you see we only lost the rebounding by just 3 and won inside points by 6pts vs NZ
                      2. they actually go over the screen because NZ is big and good at screening. Our players try to chase them out in PnR defense. Coupled with drop coverage, NZ had a lot of open shots.
                      3. He usually the weak side help and positions lower in the paint to catch the rollers. So he needs to cover the roll man and chase the 3-point shooters on the weak once NZ rotates the ball. I do see him getting lost on rotation at times. Again this is caused by us protecting the paint as a priority.

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                      • #13511
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                        "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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                        • #13512


                          Maybe 10 years residency pag Pinoy or Jordanian or Korean or Japanese.

                          Pero pag sa Qatar, just 10 months will be enough!!

                          Just kidding
                          "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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                          • #13513
                            As far as I know, Mike Philipps does not need to play in PBA just to boost his local status eligiblity. That 6 years he spent in DLSU (1 year training + 5 playing years) is more than enough to make him local. That is just basically how Gadiaga became local, his education alone (as they are implying) and he does not even have any drop of taiwanese blood.

                            Mike's stint in that SEA Games helping to get that gold medal can be considered as a foundation for his ties to the country + being a half filo.

                            It is just that the SBP is not doing anything yet to make a case for his localization, or maybe they are, sliently.

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                            • #13514
                              Originally posted by lem0nadi View Post
                              As far as I know, Mike Philipps does not need to play in PBA just to boost his local status eligiblity. That 6 years he spent in DLSU (1 year training + 5 playing years) is more than enough to make him local. That is just basically how Gadiaga became local, his education alone (as they are implying) and he does not even have any drop of taiwanese blood.

                              Mike's stint in that SEA Games helping to get that gold medal can be considered as a foundation for his ties to the country + being a half filo.

                              It is just that the SBP is not doing anything yet to make a case for his localization, or maybe they are, sliently.
                              how can you say its more than enough? Mike Philllips and Abassi are 2 different cases
                              Abassi is of Senegalese and American background, born in Japan, but grew up in Taiwan. i dont know where he went for Primary educ but he atleast went to Taiwanese HS were he learned bball.He has no Taiwanese blood, but grew up there. he had no legally way to get passport until later on. despite that, Taiwan league see him as a local.
                              Mike is a filam. He had chance to get passport but for whatever reason, he didnt till he got recruited by DLSU.

                              I am not saying I dont want Mike to get exempted. but i want to highlight they are 2 difference cases.

                              Abassi and Ange are far more similar. except Ange is not treated as a local by any professional league in the Philippines. if Pinoy leagues dont treat him as a local, why would the international league do that?
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                              • #13515
                                Originally posted by C2Hamm View Post

                                how can you say its more than enough? Mike Philllips and Abassi are 2 different cases
                                Abassi is of Senegalese and American background, born in Japan, but grew up in Taiwan. i dont know where he went for Primary educ but he atleast went to Taiwanese HS were he learned bball.He has no Taiwanese blood, but grew up there. he had no legally way to get passport until later on. despite that, Taiwan league see him as a local.
                                Mike is a filam. He had chance to get passport but for whatever reason, he didnt till he got recruited by DLSU.

                                I am not saying I dont want Mike to get exempted. but i want to highlight they are 2 difference cases.

                                Abassi and Ange are far more similar. except Ange is not treated as a local by any professional league in the Philippines. if Pinoy leagues dont treat him as a local, why would the international league do that?
                                Yeah... Kouame can't get local status if the main league here, the PBA can't make him as local.. and I think we have to forget him to be a local player.. it will hurt the development of Philippine basketball as whole than good.. if we push Kouame as local in the PBA, it will be a precedent to other teams in any leagues to do that... Imagine Ginebra will push brownlee to be a local player, SMB will push Boatwright to be a local player, etc ... Do you think it will be a good development to our basketball program, especially our local players as whole? Better focus on Fil-foreigners to push as a local players who are not eligible in FIBA...

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