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  • Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post
    If Jordan Clarkson plays for Gilas in the 2023 FIBA World Cup, I bet PBA will offer its players for Gilas service & I agree with you, around 4 to 5 PBA players (excluding the special draftees) will make it to the Gilas 12-man roster.

    As I've said several times, PBA still wants to have a place in the Gilas bandwagon, specially with Clarkson in tow. PBA still wants relevance with the FIBA game.
    wright and lassiter should always be considered because of their 3 point shooting (much higher than romeo and pogoy's)

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    • Originally posted by barok espinoza View Post
      wright and lassiter should always be considered because of their 3 point shooting (much higher than romeo and pogoy's)
      Lassiter might be too old. Wright certainly.

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      • Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post
        If Jordan Clarkson plays for Gilas in the 2023 FIBA World Cup, I bet PBA will offer its players for Gilas service & I agree with you, around 4 to 5 PBA players (excluding the special draftees) will make it to the Gilas 12-man roster.

        As I've said several times, PBA still wants to have a place in the Gilas bandwagon, specially with Clarkson in tow. PBA still wants relevance with the FIBA game.
        I hope they get their place in the Gilas bandwagon while giving at least the bare minimum when it comes to prep time. If they're just gonna force Gilas to take PBA players and minimal training time, nako po. Might as well not join.

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        • The 4 or 5 PBA players that will likely make it to the 2023 FIBA WC-bound Gilas would be the likes of Kiefer, Matt Wright, Pogoy, CJ Perez, Junmar Fajardo, Rosario.

          If only Rayray Parks isn't besieged by a problem, I would consider him in the list over either Pogoy or Perez.

          A wing combination of Jordan Clarkson, Dwight Ramos, Rayray Parks, Matt Wright, & either CJ Perez or Pogoy would be awesome.
          "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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          • Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post
            If Jordan Clarkson plays for Gilas in the 2023 FIBA World Cup, I bet PBA will offer its players for Gilas service & I agree with you, around 4 to 5 PBA players (excluding the special draftees) will make it to the Gilas 12-man roster.

            As I've said several times, PBA still wants to have a place in the Gilas bandwagon, specially with Clarkson in tow. PBA still wants relevance with the FIBA game.
            PR nightmare if PBA is not represented. If the PBA will have its way, its gonna be 10 PBA players + J.C. and then Kai, plus a coach of their liking .

            A special compromise will surely be made if the PBA bullies once again SBP, like majority of the cadets will be drafted, but owners will have no choice but to lend these draftees to the NT. So total picture will be 7 established PBA Stars (they want to have the majority number) + 3 Gilas Cadets ( but rights owned by PBA) + J.C. and Kai . Ange Koame in all likelihood will be left out if FIBA classifies him as a naturalized palyer. AJ Edu will be the odd man out, he'll be in limbo since he's neither a PBA player, a pro or a GILAS regular.

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            • Gilas Pool Fight for Final 12 slot

              Cadet Vs Pba

              PG: Heading, 1GDL Vs Kiefer

              SG: Dave, Javi, Bulanadi Vs Matthew Wright, RR Pogoy

              SF: Dwight Ramos Vs Rayray

              PF: Carl Tamayo Vs Troy

              C: Kai, AJ, Ange Vs Junmar, Japeth

              I guess it will look like this in 2023.

              TALENT WISE, ex'cept the Big Man Center Position, Pba Players have an edge talent wise.

              BUT if these pba players and the pba team they are being controlled REALLY WANTS TO HELP. I hope that

              These pba players will be integrated in the program 1 YEAR FULL TIME.

              ( KAHIT FOR 2023 WORLD CUP LANG, MAGKAISA SILA, KAKAHIYAN SA BANSA NAKATAYA DITO)

              TRANS: WE CANNOT AFFORD TO HAVE A SAWSAW PERFORMANCE IN 2023 WC at home. Our Reputation is at risk

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              • ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^

                As I've said, PBA doesn't want to be left out of the Gilas bandwagon.

                Lumalaki ang mga tenga ng top PBA officials & team owners every time they hear words like "CJ Perez, he plays for the San Miguel Beermen in the PBA which is Asia's 1st professional basketball league" from TV panelist covering Gilas games in a FIBA tournament.
                "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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                • it depends who is really in control of the SBP and Gilas..

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                  • Originally posted by DAdmiral View Post
                    it depends who is really in control of the SBP and Gilas..
                    Regardless, SBP wants to keep a harmonious relation with PBA as much as possible. Of course not saying SBP really has good relation with PBA.
                    "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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                    • Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post
                      Regardless, SBP wants to keep a harmonious relation with PBA as much as possible. Of course not saying SBP really has good relation with PBA.
                      SBP and PBA relationship is like an elite businessmen relationship.

                      You know like Sy, Gokomgwei, Razon, Ayala, Lucio Tan relationship with each other.

                      What do we call that? Something like "Frenemies". Hehe

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                      • Coach tab baldwin’s pick for his mythical 5 (for all filipino players he coached or seen):

                        Prime Paul Lee (over jimmy alapag, castro, kiefer, etc)
                        Prime Marcio Lassiter (elite shooter, solid defender)
                        Gabe Norwood/Jordan Clarkson
                        Japeth Aguilar
                        Junmar Fajardo

                        Surprised with the paul lee pick (he also picked him to take the last second shot over alapag/castro/romeo), but makes sense with paul lee’s skills and size as a defender. Proof that tab really takes defense as a big consideration when picking players.

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                        • Originally posted by lurklurk View Post
                          Coach tab baldwin’s pick for his mythical 5 (for all filipino players he coached or seen):

                          Prime Paul Lee (over jimmy alapag, castro, kiefer, etc)
                          Prime Marcio Lassiter (elite shooter, solid defender)
                          Gabe Norwood/Jordan Clarkson
                          Japeth Aguilar
                          Junmar Fajardo

                          Surprised with the paul lee pick (he also picked him to take the last second shot over alapag/castro/romeo), but makes sense with paul lee’s skills and size as a defender. Proof that tab really takes defense as a big consideration when picking players.
                          Honestly confused with the Paul Lee pick. Wasn’t his defense considered the worst amongst the 2019 WC team? It’s the primary reason he couldn’t keep up with world level guards.
                          GILAS WISHLIST:
                          6'8 Pingris

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                          • Originally posted by interxavierxxx View Post
                            Honestly confused with the Paul Lee pick. Wasn’t his defense considered the worst amongst the 2019 WC team? It’s the primary reason he couldn’t keep up with world level guards.
                            Tab did qualify the paul lee pick by saying “when paul was in shape and playing well”.

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                            • Originally posted by lurklurk View Post
                              Coach tab baldwin’s pick for his mythical 5 (for all filipino players he coached or seen):

                              Prime Paul Lee (over jimmy alapag, castro, kiefer, etc)
                              Prime Marcio Lassiter (elite shooter, solid defender)
                              Gabe Norwood/Jordan Clarkson
                              Japeth Aguilar
                              Junmar Fajardo

                              Surprised with the paul lee pick (he also picked him to take the last second shot over alapag/castro/romeo), but makes sense with paul lee’s skills and size as a defender. Proof that tab really takes defense as a big consideration when picking players.
                              Wow, Japeth, even considering that Tab benched Japeth for Troy (a decision I really disagreed with at the time).

                              But still, makes sense. As you said, defense is a huge consideration. Japeth's a good weakside defender and rim protector.

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                              • ^tab qualified his bigs saying that we dont really have a lot of choices. Jap and jmf’s size would be enough with JC there.

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