Philippines Senior National Team Thread Vol. V

[Dotch]

Aside from Japeth and Ael Banal who are the other homegrown players who played college ball in the US? There was a tall chinoy who took medicine who's name escapes me

The Reyes Siblings are trying to go to D1 schools. Both are enrolled in US HS after transferring from Manila.

[thatweirdguy]

The great Kobe P.

Kobe actually did the smartest /most efficient way to get into D1 (similar to the LaVar blueprint).

It starts with the genes. Identify a child who has tall parents with athletic backgrounds. Train them early as guards. Make it a goal to get into a US high school that's a basketball powerhouse and/or a travel team sponsored by shoe companies (he got into Compton Magic and thus got included in Adidas elite camps). Attend elite camps/exposure tournaments as much as possible before senior year of high school (he got his offer during junior year).

He did everything right up to that point and got into D1.

How could I forget lol. Dude had so much potential and his build up was insane. Trained by legends, and supposedly can play PG like Magsanoc. His videos where everywhere, he joined all the dunk contest that he can, he represented us in a lot of tourneys. All of that went to waste. Not even playing basketball ATM..

[sroth3839]

How could I forget lol. Dude had so much potential and his build up was insane. Trained by legends, and supposedly can play PG like Magsanoc. His videos where everywhere, he joined all the dunk contest that he can, he represented us in a lot of tourneys. All of that went to waste. Not even playing basketball ATM..

And will probably never play competitively again.

Guy is turning 28 this year.

Best he can aim for is the PBA. He’d be a nice backup for Malonzo.

[lem0nadi]

And will probably never play competitively again.

Guy is turning 28 this year.

Best he can aim for is the PBA. He’d be a nice backup for Malonzo.

28 years old is the starting age of most rookies in the PBA anyway lol.

[lem0nadi]

And will probably never play competitively again.

Guy is turning 28 this year.

Best he can aim for is the PBA. He’d be a nice backup for Malonzo.

28 years old is the starting age of most rookies in the PBA anyway lol. He would be serviceable for atleast 7 years, I just want him to become a PBA superstar in 2-3 years just to see him again don the national colors.

[live_evil]

But Kobe Paras is too busy with vaginas to bother with balls. haha With all his hype, he is nothing more than a national disappointment. All the tools to reach the NBA but the attitude of a diva.

[IPC]

What I'm thinking is this:
Who would you assign to defend these natural shooting guards in Asia-Oceania basketball?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNn6GFl16Mc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvAu-y6WGEQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IhbXnsZscE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWFtAligD6o

Would you put a KQ to defend any of those guys? Or you would put a Dwight Ramos or Chris Newsome (who are both natural 2-guards) instead? I doubt KQ can keep in step with those guys.

Yeah, KQ is laterally slow and realistically not a great perimeter defender but if his hypothetical role in Gilas was as a shooter he’d be making up for it on offense while the coach schemes to hide him on defense. He would be a shooter on offense and probably switch to guarding the weaker offensive guy on defense

And it's easier to hide a perimeter player on defense than it is a big man.

[sroth3839]

28 years old is the starting age of most rookies in the PBA anyway lol. He would be serviceable for atleast 7 years, I just want him to become a PBA superstar in 2-3 years just to see him again don the national colors.

Kahit hindi superstar.

At least a very reliable role player.

At 6'6, he can be a solid 3-D guy. He has an outside shot and can defend during his NCAA form.

[mathematicianrcg]

Last Decade, We always thought Rayray Parks and Kobe Paras will be cruicial part of our Future (which in now) Gilas Core.

But obviously, there were a lot of off-court issues and factors that stopped them from being ones.

Right now, Dwight kinda replaced our ideal role of Rayray. And Tamayo/ Oftana kinda replaced Kobe.

[sroth3839]

Last Decade, We always thought Rayray Parks and Kobe Paras will be cruicial part of our Future (which in now) Gilas Core.

But obviously, there were a lot of off-court issues and factors that stopped them from being ones.

Right now, Dwight kinda replaced our ideal role of Rayray. And Tamayo/ Oftana kinda replaced Kobe.

Oftana and Malonzo were basically the players Kobe was supposed to be in our team.

BRP? He's a weird one. Felt like a player who could bring a lot to the table but not really.

[Giannis34GOD]

Oftana and Malonzo were basically the players Kobe was supposed to be in our team.

BRP? He's a weird one. Felt like a player who could bring a lot to the table but not really.

Parks feud with TNT is the reason he can't consistently comeback with Gilas, he made a return in 2022 due to Al Chua, but even now SMC is redundant to give Parks another chance.. And also obviously Ramos is always the first choice in terms of off guard/wingman role of Gilas while Newsome, Malonzo, KQ and even Oftana can do what Parks can do on the table...

[Giannis34GOD]

And will probably never play competitively again.

Guy is turning 28 this year.

Best he can aim for is the PBA. He’d be a nice backup for Malonzo.

I hope Kobe Paras returns to basketball and join PBA.. Maybe he can talk to SGA management to be with them in Jones cup this year (I'm just assume SGA will join Jones cup) before joining PBA draft.. he can be a serviceable wingman in the PBA... He can be a rich man's Ni

[IPC]

Imagine Arvin Tolentino playing next to JMF

A big reason why I don't think we should consider Arvin yet is that I don't feel that we don't have enough personnel at the wing and big positions to help Arvin out on defense.

When we have enough wings and bigs who can defend, that's when I think Arvin can be considered.

[JAMSKIE]

Since coach Tim Cone said that he is using the Iran golden generation basketball team as a model for his Gilas program, I think the best iteration of the Iran national team is the team that bagged the gold medal in the 2013 FIBA Asia Championship which was held in Manila. So I want to compare/match that Iran 2013 with our current Gilas team.

Iran's 2013 roster:

Starting five: 7-foot-2 Hamed Haddadi, 6-foot-8 Oshin Sahakian, 6-foot-5 Samad Nikkah Bahrami, 6-foot-3 Hamed Afagh, 6-foot Mehdi Kamrani
Bench:6-foot-11 Ashgar Kardoust, 6-foot-11 Rozbeh Arghavan, 6-foot-10 Sorabnejad, 5-foot-10 Davoudi, 6-foot-4 Mohammed Jamshidi.

Current Gilas team:

Starting 5: Kai Sotto, Carl Tamayo, Justin Brownlee, Dwight Ramos, Iskati Thompson
Bench: Junmar Fajardo, AJ Edu, Jamie Malonzo, Calvin Oftana, Kevin Quiambao, CJ Perez & Chris Newsome.

I think at the starting 5, 28-year old Haddadi (I mean during 2013) was slightly better than 22-year old Kai. A prime Sahakian (in 2013) was a bit better than the still developing Carl Tamayo. I think current Brownlee is better than the 30-year old Bahrami (in 2013). Dwight Ramos is better than Afagh. I give Kamrani a slight edge over Iskati.

I think in terms of starting 5, I give Iran the overall slight edge.

I think it is in the bench that Gilas would enjoy a significant edge over Iran. I think anyone among the Gilas bench, even the youngest player - KQ, can be a starting 5. The same could not be said about Iran which was too dependent on its starters while its relievers hardly earned playing time & opportunity to contribute. You take away Haddadi & Bahrami from the team & Iran would just be an ordinary team in which averaged teams in Asia can beat anytime. You take away Kai Sotto & JB from Gilas, & I think the team will still be dangerous an opponent by any top Asian team.

[sroth3839]

Since coach Tim Cone said that he is using the Iran golden generation basketball team as a model for his Gilas program, I think the best iteration of the Iran national team is the team that bagged the gold medal in the 2013 FIBA Asia Championship which was held in Manila. So I want to compare/match that Iran 2013 with our current Gilas team.

Iran's 2013 roster:

Starting five: 7-foot-2 Hamed Haddadi, 6-foot-8 Oshin Sahakian, 6-foot-5 Samad Nikkah Bahrami, 6-foot-3 Hamed Afagh, 6-foot Mehdi Kamrani
Bench:6-foot-11 Ashgar Kardoust, 6-foot-11 Rozbeh Arghavan, 6-foot-10 Sorabnejad, 5-foot-10 Davoudi, 6-foot-4 Mohammed Jamshidi.

Current Gilas team:

Starting 5: Kai Sotto, Carl Tamayo, Justin Brownlee, Dwight Ramos, Iskati Thompson
Bench: Junmar Fajardo, AJ Edu, Jamie Malonzo, Calvin Oftana, Kevin Quiambao, CJ Perez & Chris Newsome.

I think at the starting 5, 28-year old Haddadi (I mean during 2013) was slightly better than 22-year old Kai. A prime Sahakian (in 2013) was a bit better than the still developing Carl Tamayo. I think current Brownlee is better than the 30-year old Bahrami (in 2013). Dwight Ramos is better than Afagh. I give Kamrani a slight edge over Iskati.

I think in terms of starting 5, I give Iran the overall slight edge.

I think it is in the bench that Gilas would enjoy a significant edge over Iran. I think anyone among the Gilas bench, even the youngest player - KQ, can be a starting 5. The same could not be said about Iran which was too dependent on its starters while its relievers hardly earned playing time & opportunity to contribute. You take away Haddadi & Bahrami from the team & Iran would just be an ordinary team in which averaged teams in Asia can beat anytime. You take away Kai Sotto & JB from Gilas, & I think the team will still be dangerous an opponent by any top Asian team.

I’m amazed we still don’t have a local born player who is close to a Bahrami.

Navarro at 6'6 is probably the closest but he is being wasted as a power forward.

For all the excitement we have with Kai, we ought to focus on developing more 6'5-6'6 swingmans.

Like how many guys have we seen in the 6'5-6'6 range in the Phils? Aplenty and we failed to develop most of them into wings.