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  • Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post
    Troy a better Gilas prospect than Balti as of now? Kindly enlighten us on this opinion of yours?

    My issue isn't just Troy being included in Gilas instead of Balti. I also would like coach Tim to add players like Jordan Heading & Will Navarro amid the frequency of injuries among Gilas players in just a span of 1 year - Malonzo, AJ Edu, Kai & KQ.

    How long will coach Tim keep on recalling the venerable Japeth Aguilar from retirement (retirement from the national team) everytime a Gilas player is injured?
    As for Japeth, he's the only capable FIBA-eligible interior defender after Kai and AJ. Ange is a FIBA NP. The only way to resolve that is to get at least one of Ange, Mike, or even Bates exempted, or to hope guys like Kemark Carino noticed. Failing that, get a defensive big to succeed as the NP after JB retires. If not Ange, at least someone who can play alongside Kai and AJ and can man the paint when Kai's not on the floor.

    Quiambao's a tweener as of now, but he's played 3 under Cone. And yeah, Malonzo has had a history of injuries. Would be nice to have another backup defensive wing, especially after JB retires. We have Dwight and Oftana to man that spot, though, and both are competent defenders.

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    • Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post

      Troy a better Gilas prospect than Balti as of now? Kindly enlighten us on this opinion of yours?

      My issue isn't just Troy being included in Gilas instead of Balti. I also would like coach Tim to add players like Jordan Heading & Will Navarro amid the frequency of injuries among Gilas players in just a span of 1 year - Malonzo, AJ Edu, Kai & KQ.

      How long will coach Tim keep on recalling the venerable Japeth Aguilar from retirement (retirement from the national team) everytime a Gilas player is injured?
      Bro, what happened to agreeing that CTC/coaches know so much more than us and that they see a bigger picture. There's so much factors/reasons that we are oblivious to. There can be a myriad of reasons on why they are doing what they are doing.

      And like BJ Reloaded said, upcoming games are non-bearing.

      And with Rosario's addition, it means there really is no need for a selection pool because they can just pluck whoever they want.

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      • should gotten a younger player instead of troy. sure it’s non bearing and band aid but rather give exposure the young players than a 32-33 year old guy..

        do cone and coaching staff knows some young players from collegiate ranks?
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        • Originally posted by Silent Killer View Post
          should gotten a younger player instead of troy. sure it’s non bearing and band aid but rather give exposure the young players than a 32-33 year old guy..

          do cone and coaching staff knows some young players from collegiate ranks?
          Band aid is something used once then thrown away. If it's really a band aid they want at this time, then it stands to reason that they don't want to treat young prospects as such.

          And again, the concept of "we don't know what they know" is we don't know.

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          • Come to think of it, we have a U30 group in the pool. As of now, it consists of Oftana (1996), Malonzo (1996), Ange (1997; NP), Dwight (1998), AJ (2000), Carl (2001), Quiambao (2001), Kai (2002), and Mason (2004).

            Of course I prefer that our additions be younger, because I think we need to think beyond 2028. But if we can keep that group that I mentioned together, and if they develop well in FIBA, we can add whoever can complement them, even veterans.

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            • Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post

              My point here is that, if coach Tim has to get someone as a "band-aid" solution, why not someone who would be serviceable for the future? Hindi yung 33 na yung edad in which 2 or 3 years from now, that player most likely would already be washed up.
              Sir Jams,

              yup same sentiment here.

              but the scenario is here.

              a. our wishlist is still very much focus on their respective ball clubs and not yet familiar with CTC's offensive and defensive scheme compared to those in the current core of players.

              b. as we all know that 3rd and last window qualifiers are non-bearing to us and as I said , let reserves our glassy players to the main event rather risk them for the remaining games

              if there's one player that I think needs an immediate inclusion it's QMB,

              news online about his submission of ph docs to the SBP for a possible inclusion are spreading like a maniac.

              we do hope it ain't the same breath as JC's green covered ph doc with a pic of a 12 yr. old Jordan Clarkson

              whether it is legit or not...I do not want to dwell too much on it.."ma-stress lang tayo lahat sa bagay na yan".

              the encouraging part nowadays is that all our US based Sports organization esp. to those participating in the coming NBTC Manila Live games are now fully aware and intelligently enough about "Passport before 16 yrs. old and the provision about changing of allegiance before reaching the age of 23 yrs. old

              adding QMB and possibly AK34(as JB's replacement for the NP slot for the meantime) if there will be no conflict to his SGA stint is the ideal thing considering they are not yet committed(?)
              to any commercial club as of the moment.

              as for Troy and Gabe Norwood na rin..we've already seen with our very own eyes how "they were schooled big-tim" by the likes of Jamshidi, Yackchali and Nikkah Bahrami during those forgettable time.

              I do hope this time, he could hold his stuff against that "revenge minded TB" with that cry baby Webster.

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              • Originally posted by IPC View Post
                Come to think of it, we have a U30 group in the pool. As of now, it consists of Oftana (1996), Malonzo (1996), Ange (1997; NP), Dwight (1998), AJ (2000), Carl (2001), Quiambao (2001), Kai (2002), and Mason (2004).

                Of course I prefer that our additions be younger, because I think we need to think beyond 2028. But if we can keep that group that I mentioned together, and if they develop well in FIBA, we can add whoever can complement them, even veterans.
                I'm also all for developing our younger players as I've always advocated for levelling up. For me, young Gilas prospects should have their own team where they will have a chance to play a lot of minutes and not just be token bench guys on the A team.

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                • Al Panlilio is so stupid that he can't see the best solution to our lineup concerns: localizing Kouame. Kouame solves our problems about our bigs' injuries and gives the team versatility in the choice of naturalized players. They can opt to go for a big or a scorer like Brownlee.
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                  • Originally posted by Silent Killer View Post
                    should gotten a younger player instead of troy. sure it’s non bearing and band aid but rather give exposure the young players than a 32-33 year old guy..

                    do cone and coaching staff knows some young players from collegiate ranks?
                    Right? If it's really non bearing we can gamble and roll with the whoever they deem are part of the program term. Unless they're trying Chot's style of trying to win all the games instead.

                    Troy has been part of the program in the past and mostly disappointed.. dunno how an older less athletic version of him is gonna help except take minutes away from Carl etc

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                    • Originally posted by Silent Killer View Post
                      should gotten a younger player instead of troy. sure it’s non bearing and band aid but rather give exposure the young players than a 32-33 year old guy..

                      do cone and coaching staff knows some young players from collegiate ranks?
                      That's exactly what I have in mind.
                      "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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                      • Originally posted by Metta View Post

                        Bro, what happened to agreeing that CTC/coaches know so much more than us and that they see a bigger picture. There's so much factors/reasons that we are oblivious to. There can be a myriad of reasons on why they are doing what they are doing.

                        And like BJ Reloaded said, upcoming games are non-bearing.

                        And with Rosario's addition, it means there really is no need for a selection pool because they can just pluck whoever they want.
                        Kaya nga, the idea of having a small pool while not including some deserving & good players to the pool isn't really about coach Tim only doing it for the welfare of the team. Instead, there's really politics behind the non-inclusion of players like Heading, & Balti. We all know that Heading & Balti are playing for Delta which doesn't have a good relationship with SMC.
                        "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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                        • All these discussions about Gilas needing to add a few players so as to address the possibility Gilas players being hit by injury from time to time reminds me of the controversy some time in 2023 in which SBP (& perhaps then Gilas coach Chot Reyes) claimed they invited Justin Baltazar to the Gilas pool/team preparing for the 2023 World Cup. Yet Baltazar's camp argued that they never received any invitation from SBP. Someone was lying.

                          With the way things are going on, it seems it becomes clear now who between SBP & Baltazar's camp was lying,
                          "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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                          • Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post
                            Kaya nga, the idea of having a small pool while not including some deserving & good players to the pool isn't really about coach Tim only doing it for the welfare of the team. Instead, there's really politics behind the non-inclusion of players like Heading, & Balti. We all know that Heading & Balti are playing for Delta which doesn't have a good relationship with SMC.
                            Heading said that Cone called him before the OQT, though. He declined for personal reasons.

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                            • I think that's the main reason why coach Tinyente and Grandpa Chualay are appointed as Gilas Coach and Program Director for both Mens and Boys team

                              because eventually they want a smooth transition between levels.

                              starting with the coming U16 tourney

                              but I do hope the Grandpas won't abandon the exemption route on some young and potential ballers

                              because realistically those who will be identified for our U16 and U18 will only be competitive enough for the Senior

                              between 2032 to 2035 cycle.

                              but if there's handful of 18 to 19 yr. old 6'7 and above 3 to 4 star level hafu and already obtain a ph docs.

                              well no more dilly dallying "offer him/her and the family something that they can't resist and beneficial for their future".

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                              • If it's coming down to Troy vs Balti, I also want Balti on the team more but i don't think it's gonna matter that much, especially this upcoming window. Their size is not far off, Balti has more length but Troy has more mass. Balti has the better skillset, but Troy is ahead by a couple months in terms of learning the system. Balti has better rim protection but I think Troy is a better wing defender and has his experience against PBA imports.

                                If I am Coach Tim, i will pick Troy as well not only because it makes my job easier but because of potential impact on my local club as well (improved confidence on Troy, more experience on the system, etc).

                                The rift against the Pineda group is probably just cherry on top.

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