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  • Originally posted by lem0nadi View Post

    It's crazy how these so-called "practice players" could give the current Gilas team a run for their money. You could add a big like an Andray Blatche-type of player and a tough defensive guard like Newsome, because I can't see anyone in this lineup who stands out as a high-caliber defender aside from Heading, who has above-average defense. The Philippines' talent pool is so deep, at least at the Asian level right now, that you could build another set of 12 players alongside our current team who would be considered Team A-caliber players.
    There is Navarro.

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    • Is Brandon Bates eligible for Gilas? I think he can be a good back up big with his size, rebounding and shot blocking.
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      • Originally posted by live_evil View Post
        please stop putting arana in your Gilas fantasies. Guy will just get eaten alive inside, unless he learns to play the three.
        Originally posted by sroth3839 View Post
        What's with the Arana obsession really? It should be Balti getting the nod.
        Originally posted by Joe Yabuki View Post
        I dont think Tim has openly talked about someone outside the pool apart from Justin Arana, Tim already said he was considered but shut down immediately due to his height (6'6). Well okay maybe Balti but that has to do with politics.
        Originally posted by live_evil View Post
        people are using his PBA performance as gauge. But he is obviously not FIBA-ready with his height and playstyle.
        Originally posted by lurklurk View Post
        Should've put Phillips there instead of Arana. I wanted another mobile big there (aside from Balti) who can move his feet better than QMB and Chiu. Arana was top of mind, but I agree with most here that there are guys who should be ahead of him.
        Originally posted by Silent Killer View Post
        So arana still for gilas?
        Thing with Arana is, he's a 6'7" player who almost exclusively plays center.​​​​ He's not exactly a high-level rim protector for a center, he can't really defend the perimeter despite being only 6'7", and I think his range is only around 18 feet.

        In my defense, I just commented on the roles the players sir lurklurk listed. But, I don't think Arana should be considered unless he can at least play the 4.

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        • Originally posted by IPC View Post
          Thing with Arana is, he's a 6'7" player who almost exclusively plays center.​​​​ He's not exactly a high-level rim protector for a center, he can't really defend the perimeter despite being only 6'7", and I think his range is only around 18 feet.

          In my defense, I just commented on the roles the players sir lurklurk listed. But, I don't think Arana should be considered unless he can at least play the 4.
          Now, we have 6'7" Carl Tamayo in the current Gilas team, who also isn't that athletic. Difference is, Carl can shoot (although his percentages in the KBL so far don't reflect that), and he can play the 4 in FIBA, which is pretty OK for his size.

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          • Originally posted by IPC View Post

            Now, we have 6'7" Carl Tamayo in the current Gilas team, who also isn't that athletic. Difference is, Carl can shoot (although his percentages in the KBL so far don't reflect that), and he can play the 4 in FIBA, which is pretty OK for his size.
            you mean FIBA-Asia only, he is undersized in FIBA Worlds...

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            • Originally posted by IPC View Post

              Now, we have 6'7" Carl Tamayo in the current Gilas team, who also isn't that athletic. Difference is, Carl can shoot (although his percentages in the KBL so far don't reflect that), and he can play the 4 in FIBA, which is pretty OK for his size.
              The significant difference between Arana & Tamayo is that Arana is a natural center while Tamayo is a natural four. Tamayo's 3pt shooting may not be that impressive as of now but I think what's impressive about Carl is that he handles the ball very well. Yung ball handling ni Carl is that of a small forward.

              If only Arana is 2 inches taller, I think he would be a perfect successor to Junmar.
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              • Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post
                Tamayo's 3pt shooting may not be that impressive as of now but I think what's impressive about Carl is that he handles the ball very well. Yung ball handling ni Carl is that of a small forward.

                I have been watching Tamayo's ballhandling in the KBL. His ballhandling from the backcourt is okay, but his one-on-one dribble drives to the basket is very turnover prone, or ends up hoisting an awkward shot. Well maybe someday he will perfect his dribble drive skills.

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                • In my opinion Arana is a smaller and less athletic version of Chanatip Jakrawan of Thailand although I would see he is much stronger and has better footwork than Jakrawan.
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                  • Originally posted by Athrunzala View Post

                    you mean FIBA-Asia only, he is undersized in FIBA Worlds...
                    Carl will be okay in the Worlds. He is wily, strong and has good footwork. If his three point shooting will be consistent, his laterals and ball handling improved, Tamayo will be a dependable modern FIBA stretch four. Andres Nociono and Gabriel Deck of Argentina acquitted themselves well in the FIBA Worlds despite being 6'7 and 6'6 respectively.

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                    • Finally! Balti, Abando, Navarro, & Lopez imo should be invited.
                      The new Gilas program director isn't closing the doors on adding a few more players to the pool
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                      • Originally posted by IPC View Post











                        Thing with Arana is, he's a 6'7" player who almost exclusively plays center.​​​​ He's not exactly a high-level rim protector for a center, he can't really defend the perimeter despite being only 6'7", and I think his range is only around 18 feet.

                        In my defense, I just commented on the roles the players sir lurklurk listed. But, I don't think Arana should be considered unless he can at least play the 4.
                        Will be hard for him to displace any of the young bigs and abai.. like we're set for at least a decade..

                        As for 3 possible additionals, i'll go with SJ, BRP jr., heading and QMB
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                        • Originally posted by DAdmiral View Post
                          BTW there' is simple principle to note here , one cannot use an approval of others as basis for justification that there case should be approved as well. Why is this ? Cause each case is uniquely different, we don't really know all the details of each specific case .
                          in the case of Harris his case does not have any factors know that would disqualify him from an exception. He has residency and Domestic league play ( however short). FIBA guidelines has no minimum requirements for residency or domestic play. ( So he's not disqualified for exception), Clarkson on the other had is indeed disqualified for exception based on the primary basis for exception.
                          Originally posted by zairex View Post
                          Learn about jurisprudence

                          Again it's all about influence rather than common sense or fairness
                          Is jurisprudence used in FIBA rulings?

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                          • Originally posted by bluenote49 View Post
                            Finally! Balti, Abando, Navarro, & Lopez imo should be invited.
                            QMB if he's really eligible.

                            No Arvin and Arana please. Neither are fit for FIBA play.

                            Too undersized. Too 1 Dimensional.

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                            • Originally posted by bluenote49 View Post
                              Finally! Balti, Abando, Navarro, & Lopez imo should be invited.
                              Fair play to Chua, a. I wasn't really in favor of him having a major role in Gilas, but at least he can recognize that we need some emergency players.

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                              • Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post

                                The significant difference between Arana & Tamayo is that Arana is a natural center while Tamayo is a natural four. Tamayo's 3pt shooting may not be that impressive as of now but I think what's impressive about Carl is that he handles the ball very well. Yung ball handling ni Carl is that of a small forward.

                                If only Arana is 2 inches taller, I think he would be a perfect successor to Junmar.

                                That's why at 6'8,CTC has no qualms to put him as the backup SF,he starts his offense at the perimeter or above the shaded lane,it creates space,specially if he's scoring.

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