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I only considered national team players from 2000s onwards like Sir Ja.he. -
Ok.. but since all of you didn't put from 2000s then I just wondering.. but in terms of all time, Johnny A., Caidic and Loyzaga should always be there in our all time best players played for Philippines... If those 3 will play in this era, they will always be part of our national team in any Fiba games..Caidic for instance, we are dreaming to have very consistent shooter, Caidic will provide that in any era...Originally posted by one21guns View PostComment
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2000/2000's is the reckoning point I picked for two reasons:Originally posted by Giannis34GOD View Post
First, this is the period where the Philippines decided to send an all-pro team in a FIBA-sanctioned event.
Second, this is the period where I can vividly remember players performing on both pro and the national team. Therefore, I can have a more precise view in my post.
Make no mistake about it, I was able to watch the likes of Caidic, Samboy Lim, Jolas, Benjie, and even Jawo in the PBA but I was a little kid back then. I was not able to watch them playing for our national team in the Asian Games.Attack
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Most of us here are 90s kids.. that's why most of here preferred 2000s era.. but if someone who able to witness 70s to 90s era, I'm sure Caidic will be always talk of the town when it comes to national team stint... For me, if we talk about all time (since basketball integrated here by American occupation), Abbarientos is the best PG, Caidic is the best SG and Caloy Loyzaga is the best SF (or PF in his time)...Originally posted by ja.he View PostComment
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Nope, it is Jaworski who is the all-time greatest point guard. Johnny A, Castro, Alapag fight for second.sigpicComment
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My dream Team
Guards
Devon Harp
Newsome
Caguiao
TR7
Forwards
Norwood
Ramos
JB
Danny S
C's
Asi
Edu
Kai
Junmar
HC: Spoelstra
Reserves
Abando
Ritualo
HontiverosSamahan ng mga Bopol ng PilipinasComment
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As lethal an offensive weapon Danny Seigle was during his prime, he was a deadweight on defense however. I think Fadi El Khatib had decent defense & was equally deadly on the offensive end. Seigle's edge over Fadi was the former's athleticism. Fadi was slowmo kung gumalaw & didn't have the hops of Seigle but Fadi is very difficult to stop becoz of superb offensive skills. Both Seigle & Fadi were excellent scorers hence it would have been a marque match up between the 2.Originally posted by Silent Killer View Post
If I'm to choose between the 2, I'll go with Fadi El Khatib."A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IVComment
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Danny Seigle is injury proneComment
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Personally think our current pool probably has the best players on RP NT ever, for all their accolades guys like Caguioa, Yap, Castro (in world level) are not effective internationally. Maybe a few tweaks here and there like Norwood for Calvin or Jamie but im not trading CJ for Caguioa. Or Castro for Newsome.Comment
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I think size is the significant difference between our current national team from the previous iterations of RP national team. Of course Kai (being 7-foot-2) & AJ Edu (being 6-foot-10 who can play both the center & power forward positions) are significant upgrades from our previous bigs in the national team, but I think there is also a significant upgrade in the wing positions with 6-foot-4 Dwight Ramos (who can play both the 2 & 3 positions), 6-5 Calvin Oftana who is a natural small forward & 6-5 Kevin Quiambao. Wala pa nga sina 6-foot-6 Will Navarro & 6-foot-5 Ken Tuffin who are both natural small forward & also deserve to be in the national team.Originally posted by Joe Yabuki View Post
As highly skilled players like 6-foot-flat Mark Caguioa (a natural 2-guard), 5-foot-10 Terrence Romeo (a combo guard), 5-foot-9 Jayson Castro (point guard), 5-foot-9 Jimmy Alapag (point guard) & 6-foot-3 James Yap (who played mostly as a small forward) are/were, they were outsized for the respective positions that they played in the national team. So for instance, even if a 6-foot-flat Mark Caguioa was a better scorer than a 6-foot-4 Dwight Ramos, the latter's significant height advantage over the former will have more impact in the FIBA game than the former's edge on offensive skills over the latter. For instance, 5-foot-10 Terrence Romeo may be more skilled than a 6-foot-1 CJ Perez, but the latter's 3-inch height advantage over the former will matter more in the FIBA game than the former's edge in offensive skills over the latter."A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IVComment
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We are still counting inches. I thought, looking at the Japan lineup, we would have stopped that. Skills over height. Look at OKC, with a starting lineup of 6'6" and below. They do have the skills and ability, but they are still small compared to other lineups.Originally posted by JAMSKIE View PostComment
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prime Romeo was a joy to watch in FIBA. had absolutely no fear whatsoever. he had the swagger and the mamba mentality.sigpicComment
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Here's an explanation for that OKC lineup: https://x.com/HotHandTheory/status/1...dJmq_zY3g&s=19Originally posted by zairex View PostComment
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Well there are really players who are just too skilled, too quick & athletic & too smart to make up for their inferiority in height/size & are capable of getting the better of their bigger/taller opponents. But these players are exception to the rule rather than the rule & they are just few of them. A prime example is Japan's diminutive point guard Yuki Kawamura who is perhaps the best point guard of Asia despite being significantly outsized by most (if not all) point guards in Asia, moreso in world level basketball.Originally posted by zairex View Post"A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IVComment
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Originally posted by JAMSKIE View PostI don't think it's just the height, e. It's the versatility with that height as well. Right now, we have four guards measuring 6'1" and above in Scottie, Newsome, Dwight, and CJ, who can reasonably defend at the FIBA level and bring the ball up, even if guys like Dwight could be just secondary ballhandlers. We have 6'5"+ wings in Oftana, Malonzo, and Quiambao. Carl Tamayo has the skillset of a tweener at 6'7", hope Mason will have that too (and I hope both, as well as other 6'6"-6'8" tweeners can make improvements on defense). 7'2" Kai and 6'10" AJ are two FIBA-eligible bigs who are playable at the FIBA level and can contribute in protecting the rim. Of course, there's JB, who at 6'6" can bring the ball up, score, pass, and defend.Originally posted by zairex View PostComment
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