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  • Originally posted by JOI2dWorld View Post

    i think JB will play against NZ while ange will play against Hong Kong to give JB rest
    It should be the other way around,it will be easier for JB to play against the much smaller HK squad,CTC will definitely will need another big man that can bother the big shooters at midrange to the perimeter.

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    • Originally posted by ARMIR View Post

      It should be the other way around,it will be easier for JB to play against the much smaller HK squad,CTC will definitely will need another big man that can bother the big shooters at midrange to the perimeter.
      Nah! We would be needing JB in the NZ game much more than we would be needing him in the Hongkong game. We already have more than enough centers in the pool with Kai, Junmar, AJ Edu & Japeth, & the fact remains that we would be needing a go-to-guy type of naturalized player like JB against a very strong team like NZ whom we have yet to beat all these years. Kouame isn't a go-to-guy type of a player that JB is.
      "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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      • Jb may be very tired at this point. But he can definitely go all-out for 30 minutes in just one game -- the nz one.

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        • Originally posted by ccharmed View Post
          Jb may be very tired at this point. But he can definitely go all-out for 30 minutes in just one game -- the nz one.
          The last game of the PBA Governor's Cup finals was Nov. 8 and the start of Gilas practices would be Nov. 15, so JB gets 6 days of rest before getting back to the basketball court again for Gilas training. In those practices/training pwede naman maghinay-hinay muna si JB especially during the first 2 practice sessions. The 6-day rest would be significant as far as JB getting recharged & rejuvenated for the 2nd window.
          "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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          • In the future, I would prefer that we go with Anj as the naturalized player, with Carl or KQ at the small forward position. This approach would allow our Golden Generation to perform in its purest form, showcasing our pinoy brand of basketball. Anj is truly a product of Philippine basketball, and we should focus on maximizing Kai's offensive potential, making it easier for him in matchups against Asian, Oceania, and Australia's secondary teams. For world-class competition, RHJ Jr. would be ideal, and hopefully, we can secure an exemption for Anj eventually.

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            • Edu and Jamie not in the squad but Japeth (lol) and Mason will replace them.

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              • Originally posted by Joe Yabuki View Post
                Edu and Jamie not in the squad but Japeth (lol) and Mason will replace them.
                Seriously, it's high time for Edu to settle here in the Philippines and play in the PBA at least he's with his family when he gets injured lol

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                • Cone said he will use brownlee in both games. This makes sense if his original objective is to reach world top 30 with a pair of strong home wins.

                  With more local pinoys playing in foreign leagues, the nt has a decent chance of cracking the top 20 elite list. If the boatman as scoring big np delivers like batman, this is more than possible. There are now very good local filfor and local candidates at 6'5-6'7 for the nt so the perennial weaknesses at big guard and small forward positions can be permanently patched.

                  Edu is too unreliable for nt duties with his too-many injuries. There are several 6'8-6'9 locals who can be trained through the pba to replace him, and included in the 15-man pool.

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                  • Originally posted by ccharmed View Post
                    Cone said he will use brownlee in both games. This makes sense if his original objective is to reach world top 30 with a pair of strong home wins.

                    With more local pinoys playing in foreign leagues, the nt has a decent chance of cracking the top 20 elite list. If the boatman as scoring big np delivers like batman, this is more than possible. There are now very good local filfor and local candidates at 6'5-6'7 for the nt so the perennial weaknesses at big guard and small forward positions can be permanently patched.

                    Edu is too unreliable for nt duties with his too-many injuries. There are several 6'8-6'9 locals who can be trained through the pba to replace him, and included in the 15-man pool.
                    Thing with Bennie, though, is that we need good defensive personnel to support him, since his interior defense in the PBA wasn't that good (although he does know how to rotate). We need either a good defensive big beside him, or good defensive players at 1-2-3 in front of him.

                    That means we need an extra backup defensive big in case either of Kai and AJ gets hurt, and/or a good defensive wing. Oftana, Malonzo, and Quiambao will have have to get better on perimeter defense, at least be able to prevent dribble penetration.

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                    • Originally posted by IPC View Post

                      Thing with Bennie, though, is that we need good defensive personnel to support him, since his interior defense in the PBA wasn't that good (although he does know how to rotate). We need either a good defensive big beside him, or good defensive players at 1-2-3 in front of him.

                      That means we need an extra backup defensive big in case either of Kai and AJ gets hurt, and/or a good defensive wing. Oftana, Malonzo, and Quiambao will have have to get better on perimeter defense, at least be able to prevent dribble penetration.
                      One player who hasn't been mentioned for a while is: Ken Tuffin.

                      Assuming he's eligible, he's a very good candidate to replace Newsome once the latter retires.

                      Good size, plays guard, and works hard on defense.

                      Back to bigs, the truth is we don't have many options.

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                      • I think with the newsfeed that was posted today

                        the PBA really needs to revised/upgrade it's eligibility ruling

                        to allow Philippine schooled and developed AK34 to join next year's draft

                        in commemoration of it's 50th Anniversary.

                        news about Kai and AJ's health issues every now and then

                        is such an onion moving forward

                        in doing so, hopefully in 2026 or WC 2027 cycle we could that exemption for that dude

                        as for Michael Philips, Zav Lucero, (hopefully)QMB and others

                        after the LA 2028 or early 2029 is the perfect time to facilitate

                        for their exemption in preparation for WC 2031

                        as per my posted item from the other thread

                        those recently identified/discovered younglings with height must be trained

                        in preparation for the Batang Gilas program

                        it's no-brainer that it is the only way to make sure Philippine basketball

                        will have a handful of FIBA ready talent in the 4 and 5 spots

                        it can be done.

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                        • Originally posted by sroth3839 View Post
                          One player who hasn't been mentioned for a while is: Ken Tuffin.

                          Assuming he's eligible, he's a very good candidate to replace Newsome once the latter retires.

                          Good size, plays guard, and works hard on defense.

                          Back to bigs, the truth is we don't have many options.
                          Wings, like I said, we need Oftana, Malonzo, and Quiambao to step up on defense, so that they can at least stop dribble penetration. Otherwise, call up someone like Navarro. Tuffin, I feel he's in the same boat as Dwight. Both are 6'4", so could give up some size at the 3 (but still strong), but good enough for 2, and work hard on defense.

                          As for bigs, the options are to keep calling up Japeth, naturalize a big who can defend the interior, hope for the FIBA exemptions of Ange and Mike, recall someone like Kemark Carino and hope he pans out, or hope we get another big capable of defending the paint.

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                          • The key to our success in the next 10 years is Kouame's exemption. Him being classified as a local will give the Gilas coach a wider range of choice for naturalized players, making Gilas more versatile.
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                            • Originally posted by live_evil View Post
                              The key to our success in the next 10 years is Kouame's exemption. Him being classified as a local will give the Gilas coach a wider range of choice for naturalized players, making Gilas more versatile.
                              wow. so if this does not happen, we all just pray to bball gods to save Gilas?
                              i agree Ange being a local solves a few problems in 1 sweep but we need a few more than just Ange. heck, even if Hepa, Sage, and JJ miraculously all became locals, we still need a stronger recruitment for Pinoys outside the country and better way to develop in country talent.I would also want to see more coaches getting their feet wet with international experience even if just as asst (SGA or youth team maybe?) just so picking a new coach after CTC (whenever that is) international experience would be less of a deal.
                              WE DON'T COUNT YEARS, WE COUNT CENTURIES

                              P. Noval, A.H. Lacson, Dapitan, Espanya
                              SANTO TOMAS APAT NA DAAN

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                              • The next 10 years is the peaking of Kai and Edu. If injuries weren't a concern with Edu, he has shown at the Worlds that he's that rare asian who can defend the likes of KAT one-on-one while Kai has shown that he's a rare asian big who can hang with the likes of Latvia. I would rate Edu and Kai being injury-free higher than an Ange exemption as something we really need. Of course Ange getting exempted would be nice too.

                                Either way, for me we still need a naturalized nba-level big if we want to compete against higher level tiers. We are afforded more choices in wings and guards, while international-level bigs are still in limited supply.

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