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  • Originally posted by BJ_Reloaded View Post

    Good Day Sir Jams,

    I highly doubt if he will literally provide the dude a PT on both window games

    he is still glassy and it is such a risk if the coaching staff force it

    maybe he could do some shoot around, watch and listen to their plays during the huddles

    certainly he will be available but will ride the bench all along.
    You're most likely right bro, coach Tim might not field Malonzo in the 2nd window even if he's 100% healed from his injury. I think it would take a while before Malonzo gets back to his old competitive form as he was sidelined due to injury for quite a while. Malonzo might be rusty if he plays in the 2nd window
    "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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    • Malonzo, amos and oftana are not ready against new zealand. As long as brownlee, kai, aj, fajardo, aguilar, ramos and tamayo are in working condition, forwards and centers of nz will definitely be neutralized. That ends the kiwi's game plans.

      Pinoy guard play of thompson and quiambao is what determines if the pinoy team slaughters the kiwis by more than 30 points. As the kiwis did to our weak teams in earlier years.

      Although those 9 are more than good enough beyond fiba asian games, cone, in my opinion, is still foolish in not including at least two dedicated 3point specialists. It is impossible to defeat the top 5 world teams without proven excellent snipers. With aging bigs, at least one of qmb or phillips, will also come in handy.

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      • Originally posted by ccharmed View Post
        Malonzo, amos and oftana are not ready against new zealand. As long as brownlee, kai, aj, fajardo, aguilar, ramos and tamayo are in working condition, forwards and centers of nz will definitely be neutralized. That ends the kiwi's game plans.

        Pinoy guard play of thompson and quiambao is what determines if the pinoy team slaughters the kiwis by more than 30 points. As the kiwis did to our weak teams in earlier years.

        Although those 9 are more than good enough beyond fiba asian games, cone, in my opinion, is still foolish in not including at least two dedicated 3point specialists. It is impossible to defeat the top 5 world teams without proven excellent snipers. With aging bigs, at least one of qmb or phillips, will also come in handy.
        Will DLSU even allow Quiambao to play. Wont it be playoffs by then?

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        • Originally posted by Sikatrix View Post

          Will DLSU even allow Quiambao to play. Wont it be playoffs by then?
          You are right. Actually, i'm just looking beyond the nz and hk game already. With kq unavailable, the more cone must get at least two very good reliable snipers. Cone's game plan can still be easily read, and defeated by highly athletic teams. Reliable 3point rampage can still shoot down the best athletic teams. Ask steph about that.

          The big edge of the pinoys will emerge from quality players like kai who can defend and score at will inside the paint. You need at least two kais. And balanced by two deadly snipers who can shoot and defend at will beyond the arc. Why? Because hostile courts, not friendly home courts, are the rule.

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          • Btw, cone is a very good coach by philippine standards. By top ten world nt standards, well... Istill have to see him guide pinoy nt teams to many wins against top 20 teams. It is a case similar to that of coach seyer. He can top pba and asean teams, but definitely not even reliable against top asian nts.

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            • Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post

              Sir, Nov. 10 will be the possible last playing date of the PBA Commissioner's Cup only becoz both the TnT-ROS & SMB-Ginebra the semifinal series didn't reach the 7th game/s. Kung umabot ng 7th game in any of the 2 semis pairings, at kung aabot ng 7th game ang championship series then the last playing date of the Commissioner's Cup would probably Nov. 15. In short, its not certain as to the exact date when all the PBA Gilas players would be available for training.

              On the other hand, the B-league sets a "fixed" date as to when it is going to take a brief break to give way to the 2nd window qualifier for the 2025 Asia Cup. The last playing date of Kai Sotto, AJ Edu & Dwight Ramos in their respective B-league teams is Nov. 11. Fixed po yun.

              Kumbaga eh, the start of Gilas training would be at the mercy of the durations of the PBA Commissioner's Cup semis & final series.

              I hope you get my point sir.
              even if ros and tnt reached 7 games it will still be the same because both semi-finals game were played at the same date, not alternately as the finals did not even start after the last semi finals match last sunday, i think that adjustment that the pba made was to play on november 1 in which most of the time the league is on a break, game 7 or not finals was supposed to start on october 27, but without the game on november 1, it's impossible for the conference to end in november 10, best case scenario is finals don't reach 7 games

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              • If I'm to choose between RJ Abarrientos & SJ Belangel for Gilas, I'll choose the latter. Scoring wise, RJ is better but on the defensive end, SJ Belangel is the better one. Also, iba yung gulang ni SJ sa game eh. He had displayed that as early as 3 years ago when he played (together with RJ) for Gilas under coach Tab Baldwin.
                "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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                • Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post
                  If I'm to choose between RJ Abarrientos & SJ Belangel for Gilas, I'll choose the latter. Scoring wise, RJ is better but on the defensive end, SJ Belangel is the better one. Also, iba yung gulang ni SJ sa game eh. He had displayed that as early as 3 years ago when he played (together with RJ) for Gilas under coach Tab Baldwin.
                  Realistically speaking, RJ will probably get selected because he already knows CTC’s system. At the Asian level, RJ is an okay selection but worlds? I’d rather have Winston, Stockton (if he gets exemption), or BRP Jr back.

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                  • Originally posted by sroth3839 View Post

                    Realistically speaking, RJ will probably get selected because he already knows CTC’s system. At the Asian level, RJ is an okay selection but worlds? I’d rather have Winston, Stockton (if he gets exemption), or BRP Jr back.
                    Yeah, agree. In Asian level basketball, point guards below 6 feet like RJ or SJ would be ok. But in the world level, I feel guys like Schonny Winston or Stockton (if he gets the FIBA exemption) should the the type of point guards that would be serviceable for Gilas.

                    Japan's No. 1 point guard Yuki Kawamura may only be 5-foot-8/5-foot-9, but he's just too good, too skilled, too quick that he's effective even in the world level.
                    "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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                    • Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post

                      Yeah, agree. In Asian level basketball, point guards below 6 feet like RJ or SJ would be ok. But in the world level, I feel guys like Schonny Winston or Stockton (if he gets the FIBA exemption) should the the type of point guards that would be serviceable for Gilas.

                      Japan's No. 1 point guard Yuki Kawamura may only be 5-foot-8/5-foot-9, but he's just too good, too skilled, too quick that he's effective even in the world level.
                      i thought SJ is around 6'1?
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                      • Originally posted by digitalsuperman View Post

                        i thought SJ is around 6'1?
                        More like he's only around 5-foot-11. Iskati Thompson or Robert Bolick is taller than Belangel. I think both Iskati & Bolick are around 6-foot-1.
                        "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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                        • Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post

                          More like he's only around 5-foot-11. Iskati Thompson or Robert Bolick is taller than Belangel. I think both Iskati & Bolick are around 6-foot-1.
                          Scottie might be 5’11 or 6’0 but seems to have a good wingspan and pretty high two feet leaper.

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                          • Based on our Latest Pool

                            Seems like we will stick with

                            Kai, AJ, Junmar, Japeth Rotation at the Center Spot.

                            Well, Brownlee can play small ball 4 too.

                            As much as some hate Junmar and Japeth in International Competition. They are still the best option bigs from Pba.

                            Anyways, hope Kai and AJ will be fully healthy next window against Hong Kong and New Zealand.

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                            • Originally posted by lem0nadi View Post
                              It sucks as fuck when a team coached by CCR, who still uses the DDO is dominating a system-oriented team coach by the current NT coach. As much as I want Ginebra to have their revenge, this better be done in 4-5 games for Gilas.
                              Originally posted by IPC View Post
                              Actually nga, TNT did it through defense. Denied Brownlee passing lanes and clean looks. That's the real surprise from Chot, the defensive-oriented identity of TNT. In the past, defense isn't the first thing to come to mind when discussing Chot Reyes in recent years.

                              Couple that with Chot using actual small ball, using RHJ at the 4, which hasn't changed.
                              It got me thinking nga, e. What if Chot were this focused on defense and used a more versatile small ball lineup with Gilas, one where he doesn't sacrifice size and defense at the wing?

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                              • Originally posted by IPC View Post



                                It got me thinking nga, e. What if Chot were this focused on defense and used a more versatile small ball lineup with Gilas, one where he doesn't sacrifice size and defense at the wing?
                                He didn't have the personnel.

                                Back then Rdo and Ping are our 4s.

                                Sometimes went big with Blatche/Young Junmar/Young Japeth

                                And it's not like we had a local who can effectively play as small ball 4 or small ball 5 like RHJ or Brownlee
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