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Philippines Senior National Team Thread Vol. V
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"A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV
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Malonzo, amos and oftana are not ready against new zealand. As long as brownlee, kai, aj, fajardo, aguilar, ramos and tamayo are in working condition, forwards and centers of nz will definitely be neutralized. That ends the kiwi's game plans.
Pinoy guard play of thompson and quiambao is what determines if the pinoy team slaughters the kiwis by more than 30 points. As the kiwis did to our weak teams in earlier years.
Although those 9 are more than good enough beyond fiba asian games, cone, in my opinion, is still foolish in not including at least two dedicated 3point specialists. It is impossible to defeat the top 5 world teams without proven excellent snipers. With aging bigs, at least one of qmb or phillips, will also come in handy.
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Originally posted by ccharmed View PostMalonzo, amos and oftana are not ready against new zealand. As long as brownlee, kai, aj, fajardo, aguilar, ramos and tamayo are in working condition, forwards and centers of nz will definitely be neutralized. That ends the kiwi's game plans.
Pinoy guard play of thompson and quiambao is what determines if the pinoy team slaughters the kiwis by more than 30 points. As the kiwis did to our weak teams in earlier years.
Although those 9 are more than good enough beyond fiba asian games, cone, in my opinion, is still foolish in not including at least two dedicated 3point specialists. It is impossible to defeat the top 5 world teams without proven excellent snipers. With aging bigs, at least one of qmb or phillips, will also come in handy.
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Originally posted by Sikatrix View Post
Will DLSU even allow Quiambao to play. Wont it be playoffs by then?
The big edge of the pinoys will emerge from quality players like kai who can defend and score at will inside the paint. You need at least two kais. And balanced by two deadly snipers who can shoot and defend at will beyond the arc. Why? Because hostile courts, not friendly home courts, are the rule.
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Btw, cone is a very good coach by philippine standards. By top ten world nt standards, well... Istill have to see him guide pinoy nt teams to many wins against top 20 teams. It is a case similar to that of coach seyer. He can top pba and asean teams, but definitely not even reliable against top asian nts.
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Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post
Sir, Nov. 10 will be the possible last playing date of the PBA Commissioner's Cup only becoz both the TnT-ROS & SMB-Ginebra the semifinal series didn't reach the 7th game/s. Kung umabot ng 7th game in any of the 2 semis pairings, at kung aabot ng 7th game ang championship series then the last playing date of the Commissioner's Cup would probably Nov. 15. In short, its not certain as to the exact date when all the PBA Gilas players would be available for training.
On the other hand, the B-league sets a "fixed" date as to when it is going to take a brief break to give way to the 2nd window qualifier for the 2025 Asia Cup. The last playing date of Kai Sotto, AJ Edu & Dwight Ramos in their respective B-league teams is Nov. 11. Fixed po yun.
Kumbaga eh, the start of Gilas training would be at the mercy of the durations of the PBA Commissioner's Cup semis & final series.
I hope you get my point sir.
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If I'm to choose between RJ Abarrientos & SJ Belangel for Gilas, I'll choose the latter. Scoring wise, RJ is better but on the defensive end, SJ Belangel is the better one. Also, iba yung gulang ni SJ sa game eh. He had displayed that as early as 3 years ago when he played (together with RJ) for Gilas under coach Tab Baldwin."A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV
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Originally posted by JAMSKIE View PostIf I'm to choose between RJ Abarrientos & SJ Belangel for Gilas, I'll choose the latter. Scoring wise, RJ is better but on the defensive end, SJ Belangel is the better one. Also, iba yung gulang ni SJ sa game eh. He had displayed that as early as 3 years ago when he played (together with RJ) for Gilas under coach Tab Baldwin.
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Originally posted by sroth3839 View Post
Realistically speaking, RJ will probably get selected because he already knows CTC’s system. At the Asian level, RJ is an okay selection but worlds? I’d rather have Winston, Stockton (if he gets exemption), or BRP Jr back.
Japan's No. 1 point guard Yuki Kawamura may only be 5-foot-8/5-foot-9, but he's just too good, too skilled, too quick that he's effective even in the world level."A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV
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Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post
Yeah, agree. In Asian level basketball, point guards below 6 feet like RJ or SJ would be ok. But in the world level, I feel guys like Schonny Winston or Stockton (if he gets the FIBA exemption) should the the type of point guards that would be serviceable for Gilas.
Japan's No. 1 point guard Yuki Kawamura may only be 5-foot-8/5-foot-9, but he's just too good, too skilled, too quick that he's effective even in the world level.The message you have entered is too short. Please lengthen your message to at least 5 characters.
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Originally posted by digitalsuperman View Post
i thought SJ is around 6'1?"A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV
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Based on our Latest Pool
Seems like we will stick with
Kai, AJ, Junmar, Japeth Rotation at the Center Spot.
Well, Brownlee can play small ball 4 too.
As much as some hate Junmar and Japeth in International Competition. They are still the best option bigs from Pba.
Anyways, hope Kai and AJ will be fully healthy next window against Hong Kong and New Zealand.
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Originally posted by lem0nadi View PostIt sucks as fuck when a team coached by CCR, who still uses the DDO is dominating a system-oriented team coach by the current NT coach. As much as I want Ginebra to have their revenge, this better be done in 4-5 games for Gilas.Originally posted by IPC View PostActually nga, TNT did it through defense. Denied Brownlee passing lanes and clean looks. That's the real surprise from Chot, the defensive-oriented identity of TNT. In the past, defense isn't the first thing to come to mind when discussing Chot Reyes in recent years.
Couple that with Chot using actual small ball, using RHJ at the 4, which hasn't changed.
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Originally posted by IPC View Post
It got me thinking nga, e. What if Chot were this focused on defense and used a more versatile small ball lineup with Gilas, one where he doesn't sacrifice size and defense at the wing?
Back then Rdo and Ping are our 4s.
Sometimes went big with Blatche/Young Junmar/Young Japeth
And it's not like we had a local who can effectively play as small ball 4 or small ball 5 like RHJ or Brownlee
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