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  • Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post
    How does Winston compare to Iskati Thompson?

    I think both are good defenders. But I think Winston is slightly better in offense, his mid-range pull-up jumper is his money move/shot.
    But the good thing about Iskati is that nag e improve na rin yung 3-pt shot nya.
    I hope in about 2 yrs time, Winston will be integrated to Gilas. Winston is around 4 yrs younger than Iskati so around 4 yrs from now, Iskati is expected to be on the twilight of his career so by that time Winston wud be in the peak of his career.

    But honest, it wud be better if Winston gets integrated to Gilas now so that 3 to 4 yrs from now, maganda na experience nya in the FIBA game.

    With Newsome aging (he's currently 34), it would be nice to have another guard who can D up.

    And Schonny's already 26. Might as well start as soon as Newsome retires.

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    • Originally posted by Silent Killer View Post
      puno would’ve been nice for gilas.. too bad he’s ineligible though hope in the future he can get a newsome treatment
      Yeah. A potential two-way wing.

      We really need a defensive wing after JB retires from the NT.
      Last edited by Silent Killer; 10-01-2024, 09:13 AM.

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      • Anyone know where I can a full game vid of the Asiad 2023 finals?

        Can’t find it on YouTube.

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        • Originally posted by sroth3839 View Post
          Anyone know where I can a full game vid of the Asiad 2023 finals?

          Can’t find it on YouTube.
          GILAS PILIPINAS VS JORDAN19th Asian GamesFinals - Gold Medal MatchOctober 6, 2023Hangzhou Olympic Sports Centre GymnasiumHangzhou, ChinaTEAM GILAS ROAD TO GO...
          "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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          • Despite winning all their games so far I'm still disappointed at the development (or lack thereof) of Francis Lopez. He's at best 6'4 so the SG-SF are his best positions for Gilas and yet he has no handles beyond 2 dribbles, lacks the fluidity as a wing and just physically more mature against younger opponents in UAAP.
            I always thought that when he played against/with players on a higher level (Gilas stint) he'll have the awareness on what to do to get even better. And that's not the case for Lopez at all.

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            • Originally posted by Joe Yabuki View Post
              Schonny Winston is ready for Gilas i think
              For seagames maybe... Need to evaluate him there before tapping for main seniors team... Is he eligible, right?

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              • Originally posted by Giannis34GOD View Post

                For seagames maybe... Need to evaluate him there before tapping for main seniors team... Is he eligible, right?
                Yes

                MANILA, Philippines — Schonny Winston hopes to don the Gilas Pilipinas someday after he became eligible to play as a local for the national team. The Filipino-American guard from La Salle

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                • Originally posted by Giannis34GOD View Post

                  For seagames maybe... Need to evaluate him there before tapping for main seniors team... Is he eligible, right?
                  Even if for instance Winston plays well with Gilas in the SEA Games, I won't be that convinced that he's ready for the Asia & world level basketball. As I've said many times, SEA basketball is such a low level competition with only Indonesia as a decent opponent. Thailand may look competitive but its games in last year's Asian Games & Asia Cup qualifying windows say otherwise.

                  This also applies to all Gilas aspirants that not becoz maganda performance mo sa SEA Games eh you're ready for the Asian level moreso world level basketball. I say a Gilas player's performance against teams in the Persian Gulf region - Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, Qatar, Kuwait, UAE, would be the better gauge of a certain player whether or not he is ready for the Asian or world level basketball.
                  "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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                  • Originally posted by carmelo7 View Post
                    Despite winning all their games so far I'm still disappointed at the development (or lack thereof) of Francis Lopez. He's at best 6'4 so the SG-SF are his best positions for Gilas and yet he has no handles beyond 2 dribbles, lacks the fluidity as a wing and just physically more mature against younger opponents in UAAP.
                    I always thought that when he played against/with players on a higher level (Gilas stint) he'll have the awareness on what to do to get even better. And that's not the case for Lopez at all.
                    not even sure if hes a capable import in B League and Korean League.

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                    • Originally posted by Joe Yabuki View Post

                      not even sure if hes a capable import in B League and Korean League.
                      they've seen him up close and im sure they're not impress. Another Kobe Paras, buti na lng wala pa showbiz option si Lopez

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                      • There's 2 types of nba slam dunk champions...either they're no names or they are really really good (especially in years past when the very best joined). Not a lot in between.

                        For international purposes, Lopez is headed for the former.

                        It's the curse of being bigger, faster, stronger and more athletic than everyone at a young age. You never have the need to develop in other aspects of the game. His aborted move to the US was very bad for his development, he would have been forced to work more on his skills.

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                        • Originally posted by carmelo7 View Post

                          they've seen him up close and im sure they're not impress. Another Kobe Paras, buti na lng wala pa showbiz option si Lopez
                          He would be a good Jamie Malonzo replacement if he can work on his handles and develop an outside shot.

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                          • Originally posted by sroth3839 View Post

                            He would be a good Jamie Malonzo replacement if he can work on his handles and develop an outside shot.
                            No doubt he's still very young and could develop those esp the outside shot. But I was hoping he'd be alot better now since Gilas 2021.
                            So for the wing it'll just be Oftana, Jaime, KQ and for 2 years max Brownlee.
                            I wnder how much it would take for the eligibilities of Philipps, Lucero, QMB and Koon. If we could have those Im Okay getting Barefield as a Naturalized player. Unpopular take but should cost much less
                            Kai, QMB, Edu, Philipps, Tamayo, KQ,Jaime, Oftana, Ramos,Koon, Winston & Barefield should be good enough

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                            • Originally posted by sroth3839 View Post
                              He would be a good Jamie Malonzo replacement if he can work on his handles and develop an outside shot.
                              Originally posted by carmelo7 View Post
                              No doubt he's still very young and could develop those esp the outside shot. But I was hoping he'd be alot better now since Gilas 2021. So for the wing it'll just be Oftana, Jaime, KQ and for 2 years max Brownlee.
                              I wnder how much it would take for the eligibilities of Philipps, Lucero, QMB and Koon. If we could have those Im Okay getting Barefield as a Naturalized player. Unpopular take but should cost much less
                              Kai, QMB, Edu, Philipps, Tamayo, KQ,Jaime, Oftana, Ramos,Koon, Winston & Barefield should be good enough
                              I think we need a wing who can defend the perimeter and prevent dribble penetration, especially after JB retires. That is, unless we can have Mike Phillips and QMB exempted.

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                              • Like I said, if we could have those (QMB, Philipps, Lucero & Koon) then Im Okay for Barefield as a NP.
                                Plus replacing the quality of JB is beyond tough, we got really lucky w/ JB, they call him MJ of PH but he's really our Lebron as he does everything; defend, rebound, as a playmaker and takes the biggest most pressured shots for Gilas. That's a tough ask, we'll never see another NP w/ that kind of talent and humility. JB is 1 of 1.

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