Philippines Senior National Team Thread Vol. V

[IPC]

Is he a dual citizen? Or just mixed? I think he’s homegrown.

Methinks he's just mixed. A homegrown Fil-foreigner much like Abueva and Castro, Perez.

[Rds]

This kinda reminded me of Marc Pingris, if only on defense. Ping was only 6'4", but come on. Like Crowder, he was quick enough to defend perimeter players and strong and athletic enough to cover bigger players.

Even though I'd normally call similar-sized guys undersized at 6'4", Ping was a hell of a versatile defender, which is why I can make a size exception for him. He's also one of the keystones for that Gilas team.

Ping was heavier earlier in his career. I didn't see him play. But I assumed he was foreseen to play a classic frontline position. He was a top pick IRC. But it didn't pan out early in his career. He is undersized and doesn't have much skill on offense. Two things I think helped to form him to the Ping we know. First, was an ACL injury. He was forced to drastically lose his weight. Second, was being under coach Tim Cone. Tim is one of our more creative coaches. He doesn't really put players in a box. The more versatile they can be the better for him. With San Mig Coffee he formed a team defensive oriented deep and versatile. Ping didn't have to play heavy minutes or be a force on offense. He just had to be a defensive stopper and a facilitator on offense. San Mig Coffee didn't have any dominant individual players. None of them became BPC contenders in their 4 peat conference sweep. Which says a lot because they won the Finals for each of those conference and should have had more chances than any team to accumulate stats for their best players. But they were almost 10 man deep regular rotation and they were defensive.

So there. Ping was a good high profile role player for San Mig. Thanks to the distributed minutes and load he was healthy and had enough energy to play for Gilas. That's thanks to Tim Cone.

[interxavierxxx]

Ping was heavier earlier in his career. I didn't see him play. But I assumed he was foreseen to play a classic frontline position. He was a top pick IRC. But it didn't pan out early in his career. He is undersized and doesn't have much skill on offense. Two things I think helped to form him to the Ping we know. First, was an ACL injury. He was forced to drastically lose his weight. Second, was being under coach Tim Cone. Tim is one of our more creative coaches. He doesn't really put players in a box. The more versatile they can be the better for him. With San Mig Coffee he formed a team defensive oriented deep and versatile. Ping didn't have to play heavy minutes or be a force on offense. He just had to be a defensive stopper and a facilitator on offense. San Mig Coffee didn't have any dominant individual players. None of them became BPC contenders in their 4 peat conference sweep. Which says a lot because they won the Finals for each of those conference and should have had more chances than any team to accumulate stats for their best players. But they were almost 10 man deep regular rotation and they were defensive.

So there. Ping was a good high profile role player for San Mig. Thanks to the distributed minutes and load he was healthy and had enough energy to play for Gilas. That's thanks to Tim Cone.

That 6'8-6'9 Pingris has been on my bucket list for quite a while.

We already got our 6'8 RdO in Carl Tamayo.

We just need a 6'8-6'9 Pingris.

Any takers? Money is on Geo Chiu as he already has the upper body strength. He just needs to establish his presence on the paint.

[mathematicianrcg]

That 6'8-6'9 Pingris has been on my bucket list for quite a while.

We already got our 6'8 RdO in Carl Tamayo.

We just need a 6'8-6'9 Pingris.

Any takers? Money is on Geo Chiu as he already has the upper body strength. He just needs to establish his presence on the paint.

Personally Nah. He doesnt have the motor of ping. And I dont think he will ever have it. ( Would be nice if he proves me wrong)

Maybe in the future in 2030s

[NOiNU]

Personally Nah. He doesnt have the motor of ping. And I dont think he will ever have it. ( Would be nice if he proves me wrong)

Maybe in the future in 2030s

Mobility as well. Ping can even defend wings and guards in the perimeter.

[ja.he]

That 6'8-6'9 Pingris has been on my bucket list for quite a while.

We already got our 6'8 RdO in Carl Tamayo.

We just need a 6'8-6'9 Pingris.

Any takers? Money is on Geo Chiu as he already has the upper body strength. He just needs to establish his presence on the paint.

Personally Nah. He doesnt have the motor of ping. And I dont think he will ever have it. ( Would be nice if he proves me wrong)

Maybe in the future in 2030s

Mobility as well. Ping can even defend wings and guards in the perimeter.

Geo Chiu could be developed into another Dennis Espino-type of player. Imagine a 6'10 version of Espino giving a phantom punch against some other national teams' marquee players ala Takehiko Orimo. I'm pretty sure that all those players will get erased. I'm just kidding. Hehe

[DAdmiral]

Mobility as well. Ping can even defend wings and guards in the perimeter.

As the requirement is more mobility, motor, switchabilty, we may have no choice but to look at a shorter player, ( i don't know if that's troy, Perkins , Paras or whoever.. Height is not the requirement for a Ping replacement

[mathematicianrcg]

As the requirement is more mobility, motor, switchabilty, we may have no choice but to look at a shorter player, ( i don't know if that's troy, Perkins , Paras or whoever.. Height is not the requirement for a Ping replacement

Height is a privelege though. And in the long run, privelege will be a neccessity.

I will take a taller ping every time. Though, it will be rare.

[ja.he]

As the requirement is more mobility, motor, switchabilty, we may have no choice but to look at a shorter player, ( i don't know if that's troy, Perkins , Paras or whoever.. Height is not the requirement for a Ping replacement

Abu Tratter fits the bill then. 6'6 strong power forward with athleticism and mobility. He also loves to fight for rebounds. Per mobility to defend the perimeter, I say not in the level of Ping or Norwood but I think pwede na.

[JAMSKIE]

Abu Tratter fits the bill then. 6'6 strong power forward with athleticism and mobility. He also loves to fight for rebounds. Per mobility to defend the perimeter, I say not in the level of Ping or Norwood but I think pwede na.

Agree. I think Tratter also has a reliable mid-range jumper (15 to 18 feet) - something that Pingris never had.

[JAMSKIE]

Geo Chiu could be developed into another Dennis Espino-type of player. Imagine a 6'10 version of Espino giving a phantom punch against some other national teams' marquee players ala Takehiko Orimo. I'm pretty sure that all those players will get erased. I'm just kidding. Hehe

I'm afraid Geo Chiu will never have the offensive firepower of a Dennis "The Menace" Espino, but if we're talking of a having the toughness & some mischievous mentality of a Dennis Espino, then I think that's possible. I think the Gilas player that would be the closest of replicating a Dennis Espino in the overall aspect is Carl Tamayo. Si Tamayo medyo marunong din sa larong madumi

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RG1VpjRdY8M (fast forward to 2:13)

[IPC]

Abu Tratter fits the bill then. 6'6 strong power forward with athleticism and mobility. He also loves to fight for rebounds. Per mobility to defend the perimeter, I say not in the level of Ping or Norwood but I think pwede na.

Is Tratter at least a passable perimeter defender? If he is, that's already good in itself. 6'6" guys who can defend the perimeter are valuable for us.

When can he get another Gilas invitation, though?

[Money]

Exactly, La Salle has plenty of quality Gilas-eligible prospects. Kevin Quiambao, Jonnel Policarpio, Evan Nelle, Ice Blanco, Raven Cortez, Jared Abadam, hell probably even Mark Nonoy.

I only hope at least some of them can be invited (of course better if all), and those invitees accept the invitation. Kahit invitation lang, so that we won't have the impression na puro Atenista lang sa Gilas.

Is the Philipps guy Gilas - Eligible? DLSU's new Fil - am big. too lazy to backread hehe

[Money]

Hi, I watched this interview. To me it was more like he’s throwing shade at Letran/Longhair rather than Ateneo/San Beda while trying to make it look like he’s hesitant and couldn’t talk about it directly. The convo went something like this: Mikee asked him if he got invited and he said “😐……hindi na lang” “Anong hindi na lang? … ah ok gets ko na” (nonverbatim). So baka na-invite tapos di pinayagan. I think they send out invitations sometimes but don’t make it public, it’s possible that once you accept that’s when they add you to the pool. I used to think they’re prohibiting Quiambao but now that I think about it he was already added to the pool then he begged off. I’d give him the benefit of the doubt.

Also, I think the Ateneo guys are second gen or kinda well-off. Not to stereotype but kids from more humble backgrounds might be tempted with the money.

I have read that SBU also tried to recruit him. Wonder why he opted to go to Letran, Letran still has up and coming pieces for them to contend even without Abando.

[digitalsuperman]

Ping was heavier earlier in his career. I didn't see him play. But I assumed he was foreseen to play a classic frontline position. He was a top pick IRC. But it didn't pan out early in his career. He is undersized and doesn't have much skill on offense. Two things I think helped to form him to the Ping we know. First, was an ACL injury. He was forced to drastically lose his weight. Second, was being under coach Tim Cone. Tim is one of our more creative coaches. He doesn't really put players in a box. The more versatile they can be the better for him. With San Mig Coffee he formed a team defensive oriented deep and versatile. Ping didn't have to play heavy minutes or be a force on offense. He just had to be a defensive stopper and a facilitator on offense. San Mig Coffee didn't have any dominant individual players. None of them became BPC contenders in their 4 peat conference sweep. Which says a lot because they won the Finals for each of those conference and should have had more chances than any team to accumulate stats for their best players. But they were almost 10 man deep regular rotation and they were defensive.

So there. Ping was a good high profile role player for San Mig. Thanks to the distributed minutes and load he was healthy and had enough energy to play for Gilas. That's thanks to Tim Cone.

not really.ping even with MBA at cebu gems, he was already fit and not heavy. unpolished but the hussle was there. i was always excited to see him play for the gems during his days.