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  • Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post
    Even our above-averaged collegiate players could be serviceable for Gilas in SEA basketball level. Yes, some SEA countries, Indonesia in particular, have improved thru the years, but the rest have minimal to close to no improvement at all. Thailand for instance which played with Tyler Lamb, Morgan & Frederick Lish in last year's Asian Games was far from impressive in that tournament. It could not even beat Bahrain & got routed by Jordan by 30+ pts.

    And of course Philippine basketball has also improved in the last 4 years or so.

    My point here is that, kahit sino namang PBA player who will be included in Gilas team that will play in the SEA Games or SEABA would be capable of playing well in that level of competition. Let's not be deceived by last year's SEA Games where we got upset by Cambodia. Remember, that Cambodian team was composed mainly of world imports. It was an all-important team. I don't think we will seeing that kind of team in next year's SEA Games.

    I say, teams from the Persian Gulf region - Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, Qatar, UAE, Kuwait, Iraq, are more competitive than SEA teams.
    I watched some live stream of Gulf championships couple of weeks ago.. the level of competition there in Gulf is very balanced.. Saudi is the highest ranked team in FIBA from Gulf region but they were 4th place and were beaten by Kuwait.. Bahrain changed their naturalized player now, I didn't saw Wayne Chism there, while Qatar has numerous naturalized players in their pool.. Last Gulf tournament, they parade 2 naturalized players.. but still lose to Saudi in elims and Bahrain in the finals... Better that bring SEABA back, to increase the level of play in our region.. Kahit na wala ng Pilipinas dyan, other teams need another major FIBA tournaments to familiarize the rules and improve the level of play in SEA nations...

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    • Originally posted by Giannis34GOD View Post

      I watched some live stream of Gulf championships couple of weeks ago.. the level of competition there in Gulf is very balanced.. Saudi is the highest ranked team in FIBA from Gulf region but they were 4th place and were beaten by Kuwait.. Bahrain changed their naturalized player now, I didn't saw Wayne Chism there, while Qatar has numerous naturalized players in their pool.. Last Gulf tournament, they parade 2 naturalized players.. but still lose to Saudi in elims and Bahrain in the finals... Better that bring SEABA back, to increase the level of play in our region.. Kahit na wala ng Pilipinas dyan, other teams need another major FIBA tournaments to familiarize the rules and improve the level of play in SEA nations...
      Yeah,, I think the tournament you're referring to is GBA. Bahrain has a new naturalized player. I think the naturalized player is a big man. Also, Zee Hamoda, Bahrain's 22-year old 6-foot-7 forward who is playing in the US NCAA div. 1 school played in that tournament. I think Qatar played with 2 imports one of which is its naturalized player named Lewis & the other named Harris.

      Bahrain beat Qatar in the finals. If I'm not mistaken, Kuwait beat Saudi in the battle for 3rd place. I think Kuwait is a competitive team. I don't know if they have a naturalized player but they looked a good team. Kuwait beat Qatar in last year's tournament in the Gulf region.

      I think the level of competition in the Gulf region is still better/higher than the level of competition in SEA region. Only the Philippines & to a certain extent, Indonesia lang talaga yung decent teams.
      "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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      • I say a Thailand team with Tyler Lamb, Morgan, Fred Lish, Jakrawan would struggle against teams like Bahrain, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Kuwait & UAE.
        "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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        • Originally posted by bluenote49 View Post
          Can Nocum & Clarito be part of Gilas at Sea/Asean level competition? The latter is such a unique talent, we rarely see a pinoy bb player bully their way driving to the basket. I think even the Mags import noticed it. Then we have Nocum the reincarnation of Samboy Lim.
          Mamu is the real talent for me, and maybe if Carracut becomes more aggressive, Mamu being a tall guard that plays really well.

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          • Originally posted by Joe Yabuki View Post
            Mamu is the real talent for me, and maybe if Carracut becomes more aggressive, Mamu being a tall guard that plays really well.
            Mamu is a two-way player. That's his value. A defensive guard who can create his own shot.

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            • Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post
              I say a Thailand team with Tyler Lamb, Morgan, Fred Lish, Jakrawan would struggle against teams like Bahrain, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Kuwait & UAE.
              They just need a legit center to be a competitive outside SEA level... Jakrawan is still soft.. He will be bullied even against our undersized but bully boys such as Belga or a Ian Sanggalang type of big man.. He has too put his time on the gym and gain muscle weight...

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              • THA already paraded 6'8 Martin Breunig during the last SEAG in Cambodia wherein they've won the Bronze, he is a Tha-German and Bundesliga veteran

                I think Thailand is seriously parading a solid team next year as a host by scouting different States and Europe in addition to Tyler Lamb, Moises Morgan, Fred Lish and Tra Holder

                they had a big diaspora in Cali and some part of Canada like Vancouver among others.

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                • Originally posted by Tuck View Post
                  QMB is the DPOY really good defensive IQ and the best screener and rebounder in the league. He’d be a great role player in international games
                  Originally posted by cha34 View Post
                  I'd rather him than Mike Phillips for Gilas. He's a legit 6'10 dude that's solid all around. If possible to get both, why not.
                  Given the present composition of Gilas, we are in need of interior defenders in case AJ goes down. Yeah, we have Kai, AJ, and Japeth, but AJ's injury-prone, and Japeth's 37 right now. We will need backups for that.

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                  • Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post

                    Yeah,, I think the tournament you're referring to is GBA. Bahrain has a new naturalized player. I think the naturalized player is a big man. Also, Zee Hamoda, Bahrain's 22-year old 6-foot-7 forward who is playing in the US NCAA div. 1 school played in that tournament. I think Qatar played with 2 imports one of which is its naturalized player named Lewis & the other named Harris.

                    Bahrain beat Qatar in the finals. If I'm not mistaken, Kuwait beat Saudi in the battle for 3rd place. I think Kuwait is a competitive team. I don't know if they have a naturalized player but they looked a good team. Kuwait beat Qatar in last year's tournament in the Gulf region.

                    I think the level of competition in the Gulf region is still better/higher than the level of competition in SEA region. Only the Philippines & to a certain extent, Indonesia lang talaga yung decent teams.
                    I think Thailand (with a naturalized big) can give the Gulf teams a run for their money.

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                    • Originally posted by sroth3839 View Post

                      I think Thailand (with a naturalized big) can give the Gulf teams a run for their money.
                      Thais need to upgrade their roster size wise... And I think if they naturalized, they need a role player type of big man.. not a ball dominant guy because Lish and Lamb are already ball dominant players... They just lose to Hamooda less Bahrain team last Asian games...

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                      • Originally posted by Giannis34GOD View Post

                        Thais need to upgrade their roster size wise... And I think if they naturalized, they need a role player type of big man.. not a ball dominant guy because Lish and Lamb are already ball dominant players... They just lose to Hamooda less Bahrain team last Asian games...
                        They need a rim protector to complement Jakrawan.

                        Chanatip, size-wise, is more of a PF and you can't rely on him to protect the rim.

                        Positions 1-3: they are okay if the opposition is only Gulf teams but against top Asian teams? Definitely not.

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                        • Originally posted by sroth3839 View Post

                          They need a rim protector to complement Jakrawan.

                          Chanatip, size-wise, is more of a PF and you can't rely on him to protect the rim.

                          Positions 1-3: they are okay if the opposition is only Gulf teams but against top Asian teams? Definitely not.
                          He is like rookie year Troy Rosario... We all know how inconsistent Troy when he plays in FIBA...

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                          • Originally posted by Giannis34GOD View Post
                            He is like rookie year Troy Rosario... We all know how inconsistent Troy when he plays in FIBA...
                            Troy at first had a good motor. He just shot poorly and defended poorly in FIBA. Kind of a waste of his athletic gifts.

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                            • Schonny Winston is ready for Gilas i think

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                              • Originally posted by Joe Yabuki View Post
                                Schonny Winston is ready for Gilas i think
                                How does Winston compare to Iskati Thompson?

                                I think both are good defenders. But I think Winston is slightly better in offense, his mid-range pull-up jumper is his money move/shot.
                                But the good thing about Iskati is that nag e improve na rin yung 3-pt shot nya.
                                I hope in about 2 yrs time, Winston will be integrated to Gilas. Winston is around 4 yrs younger than Iskati so around 4 yrs from now, Iskati is expected to be on the twilight of his career so by that time Winston wud be in the peak of his career.

                                But honest, it wud be better if Winston gets integrated to Gilas now so that 3 to 4 yrs from now, maganda na experience nya in the FIBA game.


                                "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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