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  • Originally posted by neo View Post
    i am confident some pba players will play on certain windows. if it means only players from mvp teams, so be it.
    SMC Gilas worthy players are either ineligibles or past their primes anyway.

    TNT - Parks, Pogoy, Troy, Erram

    Nlex - Kiefer

    Meralco - ???? ( I cannot think of anyone)

    Phoenix - Wright, Chua

    Most probably these are some pba players that will play on some tournaments with cadets if they are available and no pba sched.

    I am willing to bet that in 2023 final 12, there will be 4-5 Pba Players ( not including special draftees)

    Cadets: Kai, AJ, Baltazar, Dwight, Tamayo may be the cadets who will make the lineup

    It is actually near. It is only 2 years left.

    We should prepare for it now.

    And these consecutive tourneys will help

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    • Originally posted by mathematicianrcg View Post
      SMC Gilas worthy players are either ineligibles or past their primes anyway.

      TNT - Parks, Pogoy, Troy, Erram

      Nlex - Kiefer

      Meralco - ???? ( I cannot think of anyone)

      Phoenix - Wright, Chua

      Most probably these are some pba players that will play on some tournaments with cadets if they are available and no pba sched.

      I am willing to bet that in 2023 final 12, there will be 4-5 Pba Players ( not including special draftees)

      Cadets: Kai, AJ, Baltazar, Dwight, Tamayo may be the cadets who will make the lineup

      It is actually near. It is only 2 years left.

      We should prepare for it now.

      And these consecutive tourneys will help
      .

      if eligible sana, newsome could provide us size and defense at d pg position.

      i would like to see first how they will perform from june to august before identifying which positions need reinforcements and if there are pba players that could potentially address such gaps/weaknesses.

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      • Revisiting the Pba Gilas Special Draft

        Because Pba players cannot be lend in the 3rd window because of conflict in pba schedule, pba is only helping Gilas thru the special draft.
        Players drafted in special draft are "technically pba players loaned to the gilas program".

        If I am not mistaken, these special draftees cannot play for their pba team unless SBP and Coach Tab released them from the program.( Correct me if I am wrong about this)


        PBA GILAS SPECIAL DRAFTEES

        A. First Batch ( 2019)

        1. Isaac Go
        2. Rey Suerte
        3. Matt Nieto
        4 Allyn Bulanadi
        5. Mike Nieto

        B. Second Batch (2020)

        6. Jordan Heading
        7. Will Navarro
        8. Tzaddy Rangel
        9. Jaydee Tungcab

        C. Third Batch (2021)

        D. Fourth Batch (2022)

        If the program will be continued in the next 2 years, there will be another 2 sets of special draftees.

        Some of our cadets would probably go play and train abroad ( hopefully). But majority of them would probably be a part of the next 2 batches of pba gilas special draft.

        Players like Dwight, Baltazar, Tamayo may be a part of the next special drafts.

        For me, ok na tong tulong ng pba. Rather than lending veteran pba players with 10 days left preperation.

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        • Originally posted by mathematicianrcg View Post
          Revisiting the Pba Gilas Special Draft

          Because Pba players cannot be lend in the 3rd window because of conflict in pba schedule, pba is only helping Gilas thru the special draft.
          Players drafted in special draft are "technically pba players loaned to the gilas program".

          If I am not mistaken, these special draftees cannot play for their pba team unless SBP and Coach Tab released them from the program.( Correct me if I am wrong about this)


          PBA GILAS SPECIAL DRAFTEES

          A. First Batch ( 2019)

          1. Isaac Go
          2. Rey Suerte
          3. Matt Nieto
          4 Allyn Bulanadi
          5. Mike Nieto

          B. Second Batch (2020)

          6. Jordan Heading
          7. Will Navarro
          8. Tzaddy Rangel
          9. Jaydee Tungcab

          C. Third Batch (2021)

          D. Fourth Batch (2022)

          If the program will be continued in the next 2 years, there will be another 2 sets of special draftees.

          Some of our cadets would probably go play and train abroad ( hopefully). But majority of them would probably be a part of the next 2 batches of pba gilas special draft.

          Players like Dwight, Baltazar, Tamayo may be a part of the next special drafts.

          For me, ok na tong tulong ng pba. Rather than lending veteran pba players with 10 days left preperation.
          let tamayo study and play a few seasons first for UP.

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          • Originally posted by robert0326
            It will also depends who will be the 1st pick next draft.. If Blackwater manage to get the 1st pick next year then i will expect Baltazar will might go PBA thru regular draft.. Just like Oftana...
            on paper, terrafirma has more talent than blackwater so that is a strong probability. unless, terrafirma will out-tanked BW.

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            • Originally posted by neo View Post
              let tamayo study and play a few seasons first for UP.
              Sure.

              I actually even prefer more for him to follow kobe paras path. 1 and done with up. Then go overseas.

              If not, then yeah, uaap then probably special draft.

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              • Tamayo can do what he wants but if for example he performs well for Gilas and a good D1 school offers full ride and everything. I hope he takes it.

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                • Yes. France's forwards cannot even stop Carl Tamayo


                  Carl Vincent Tamayo[19Points] Philippines vs France| 2018 FIBA U17 Basketball World CupTamayo turned up to be the bright spot for the floundering Batang Gila...

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                  • Originally posted by Athrunzala View Post
                    Yes. France's forwards cannot even stop Carl Tamayo


                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=md6EvgbrlnI
                    lol, this is what happens when you only watch highlights. tamayo shot 5/18 with 4 TOs and we lost by 40+ in that game. but i do like his 'mamba mentality' in that game tho, proved he's good enough on the world level

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                    • Originally posted by mathematicianrcg View Post
                      SMC Gilas worthy players are either ineligibles or past their primes anyway.

                      TNT - Parks, Pogoy, Troy, Erram

                      Nlex - Kiefer

                      Meralco - ???? ( I cannot think of anyone)

                      Phoenix - Wright, Chua

                      Most probably these are some pba players that will play on some tournaments with cadets if they are available and no pba sched.

                      I am willing to bet that in 2023 final 12, there will be 4-5 Pba Players ( not including special draftees)

                      Cadets: Kai, AJ, Baltazar, Dwight, Tamayo may be the cadets who will make the lineup

                      It is actually near. It is only 2 years left.

                      We should prepare for it now.

                      And these consecutive tourneys will help
                      Exactly. The only players under SMC that are even remotely good enough for Gilas are as follows: CJ Perez, Terrence Romeo, Stanley Pringle, Christian Standhardinger, Japeth Aguilar, June Mar Fajardo, Marcio Lassiter, Calvin Abueva, LA Tenorio, and probably Scottie Thompson and Paul Lee.

                      Of the ones I mentioned, only Perez, Terrence, Pringle, Standhardinger, Abueva, and probably Scottie and Lee fit the current Gilas timeline and are still good enough. And two of them are ineligible. Plus, of those eligible, only Perez, Abueva, and Terrence can be remotely considered irreplaceable.

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                      • Originally posted by IPC View Post
                        Exactly. The only players under SMC that are even remotely good enough for Gilas are as follows: CJ Perez, Terrence Romeo, Stanley Pringle, Christian Standhardinger, Japeth Aguilar, June Mar Fajardo, Marcio Lassiter, Calvin Abueva, LA Tenorio, and probably Scottie Thompson and Paul Lee.

                        Of the ones I mentioned, only Perez, Terrence, Pringle, Standhardinger, Abueva, and probably Scottie and Lee fit the current Gilas timeline and are still good enough. And two of them are ineligible. Plus, of those eligible, only Perez, Abueva, and Terrence can be remotely considered irreplaceable.
                        Perez and Terrence have a shot.

                        Abueva? No chance.
                        GILAS WISHLIST:
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                        • Originally posted by interxavierxxx View Post
                          Perez and Terrence have a shot.

                          Abueva? No chance.
                          TBH it's only Perez who fits the current Gilas mold though Chot would have loved TR and Lee. If Tab wants a PBA PG, it probably would be Kiefer and Bolick who gets the call.

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                          • Originally posted by mathematicianrcg View Post
                            SMC Gilas worthy players are either ineligibles or past their primes anyway.

                            TNT - Parks, Pogoy, Troy, Erram

                            Nlex - Kiefer

                            Meralco - ???? ( I cannot think of anyone)

                            Phoenix - Wright, Chua

                            Most probably these are some pba players that will play on some tournaments with cadets if they are available and no pba sched.

                            I am willing to bet that in 2023 final 12, there will be 4-5 Pba Players ( not including special draftees)

                            Cadets: Kai, AJ, Baltazar, Dwight, Tamayo may be the cadets who will make the lineup

                            It is actually near. It is only 2 years left.

                            We should prepare for it now.

                            And these consecutive tourneys will help
                            If Jordan Clarkson plays for Gilas in the 2023 FIBA World Cup, I bet PBA will offer its players for Gilas service & I agree with you, around 4 to 5 PBA players (excluding the special draftees) will make it to the Gilas 12-man roster.

                            As I've said several times, PBA still wants to have a place in the Gilas bandwagon, specially with Clarkson in tow. PBA still wants relevance with the FIBA game.
                            "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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                            • The main question as far as 2023 roster, is how much of MVP followed by his assigned director Tab will have a say of final roster.
                              if it's All and company with the PBA making the calls, then who knows were that goes..

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                              • Originally posted by interxavierxxx View Post
                                Perez and Terrence have a shot.

                                Abueva? No chance.
                                perez is a better fit as we need an alternate for clarkson.

                                but he needs to improve his 3 pt shooting which is at 27%

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