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  • great points.

    Fact is Iran qualified to the Olympics twice, this Gilas team not yet. Objectively Iran golden gen is better because they've achieved their ultimate goals. But since this is a new GIlas team, we don't know yet how they look like in peak form. We've already seen Iran at its best and it's ok... almost beat Spain, moral victories here and there... can't say they shocked the world.

    ...but this Gilas team on the other hand, though, has real upset potential over top 10 teams, on a consistent basis. That's why it'll be a huge disappointment if they miss LA 2028. We can only judge which team is better once this core is disbanded.
    Manifesting: Philippines top 5 in the FIBA World Rankings

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    • Originally posted by paliganibossalfrancis View Post
      great points.

      Fact is Iran qualified to the Olympics twice, this Gilas team not yet. Objectively Iran golden gen is better because they've achieved their ultimate goals. But since this is a new GIlas team, we don't know yet how they look like in peak form. We've already seen Iran at its best and it's ok... almost beat Spain, moral victories here and there... can't say they shocked the world.

      ...but this Gilas team on the other hand, though, has real upset potential over top 10 teams, on a consistent basis. That's why it'll be a huge disappointment if they miss LA 2028. We can only judge which team is better once this core is disbanded.
      All I can say is, since coach Tim Cone has been doing a good job so far with Gilas, dapat huwag ng gambalahin pa ang program nya. Let him finish the job until 2027 or 2028.

      Ang hirap dyan is baka next year lang or in 2026 umiksina na naman si Chot Reyes & would once again steal the Gilas head coaching job from Tim Cone.

      Yun ang magiging mitsa ng Gilas program kung sakali!

      Trans: Put Chot Reyes way way away from the current Gilas program. Don't let him have anything to do with Gilas.
      "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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      • Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post
        All I can say is, since coach Tim Cone has been doing a good job so far with Gilas, dapat huwag ng gambalahin pa ang program nya. Let him finish the job until 2027 or 2028.

        Ang hirap dyan is baka next year lang or in 2026 umiksina na naman si Chot Reyes & would once again steal the Gilas head coaching job from Tim Cone.

        Yun ang magiging mitsa ng Gilas program kung sakali!

        Trans: Put Chot Reyes way way away from the current Gilas program. Don't let him have anything to do with Gilas.
        For the good of the program, but also for his own. Come on, the guy's 60, he should step away to avoid the bashing. Let him just coach in the PBA in peace.

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        • My dream for this current Gilas is a gold medal finish in next year's 2025 FIBA Asia Cup. I think it's achievable considering that Australia usually doesn't send its elite national players in this tournament. I'm confident Gilas can beat an Australian national team-B. Of course it won't be easy winning the 2025 Asia Cup title. Teams like Australia, Lebanon, Japan, Jordan, New Zealand (if it parades most of its elite players) are formidable opponents. Then we can never overlook China, Korea & Iran.

          The key for Gilas success is preparation. A 10-day preparation for the 2025 FIBA Asia Cup won't cut it. We need at least 4 weeks of full time training & about 8 tune-up games (hopefully around 5 tune up games vs. European teams) to get our Gilas players battle ready. Also we need "all" our Gilas players to be present in the training camp right from the start. Hindi yung ang 1 or 2 players eh magjo join sa training camp about only a week before the tournament.

          We need Gilas to be at its best form to claim Asia-Oceania basketball supremacy.
          "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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          • Good luck with the long prep. Tim Cone is just lying through his teeth regarding his cumulative results based on only 10 days of prep. The 10 day prep is an imposition of the stupid PBA.
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            • Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post
              My dream for this current Gilas is a gold medal finish in next year's 2025 FIBA Asia Cup. I think it's achievable considering that Australia usually doesn't send its elite national players in this tournament. I'm confident Gilas can beat an Australian national team-B. Of course it won't be easy winning the 2025 Asia Cup title. Teams like Australia, Lebanon, Japan, Jordan, New Zealand (if it parades most of its elite players) are formidable opponents. Then we can never overlook China, Korea & Iran.

              The key for Gilas success is preparation. A 10-day preparation for the 2025 FIBA Asia Cup won't cut it. We need at least 4 weeks of full time training & about 8 tune-up games (hopefully around 5 tune up games vs. European teams) to get our Gilas players battle ready. Also we need "all" our Gilas players to be present in the training camp right from the start. Hindi yung ang 1 or 2 players eh magjo join sa training camp about only a week before the tournament.

              We need Gilas to be at its best form to claim Asia-Oceania basketball supremacy.
              This. FIBA Asia Cup will be held between August 5 and August 17 2025. While Eurobasket will be from Aug 27 to Sep 14, 2025.

              That Latvia win was VERY CRUCIAL for Gilas moving forward because that's the win that earned the respect of Europeans. Remember back in 2023, Lithuania and Estonia were only sending the B teams to play with us. They don't see any benefit in playing against us but now they surely do. I hope they can get tuneup games against teams preparing for Eurobasket. 3 games against say Jordan, Japan and Korea and then 5 games against European teams is enough prep. If we do this Asia Cup will be a walk in the park.

              Knowing SBP and PBA though, maximum 1 week training camp and then 2-3 tuneup games against weak teams. lol
              Manifesting: Philippines top 5 in the FIBA World Rankings

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              • Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post

                All I can say is, since coach Tim Cone has been doing a good job so far with Gilas, dapat huwag ng gambalahin pa ang program nya. Let him finish the job until 2027 or 2028.

                Ang hirap dyan is baka next year lang or in 2026 umiksina na naman si Chot Reyes & would once again steal the Gilas head coaching job from Tim Cone.

                Yun ang magiging mitsa ng Gilas program kung sakali!

                Trans: Put Chot Reyes way way away from the current Gilas program. Don't let him have anything to do with Gilas.
                imo, he should step away from TNT as well.

                After tab baldwin's contract ends with ateneo this year, I think he should go back to the amateur ranks. That could be a breath of fresh air for him.

                No point in trying to win for TNT anymore, he's already proven he can win chips. and no point involving himself with Gilas anymore, he already did his job by bringing us to 1 World Cup and some moral victories.

                In Ateneo though, if he can revive that program from the dead and win championships for his alma mater he'll redeem himself and retire a winner.
                Manifesting: Philippines top 5 in the FIBA World Rankings

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                • Originally posted by live_evil View Post
                  Good luck with the long prep. Tim Cone is just lying through his teeth regarding his cumulative results based on only 10 days of prep. The 10 day prep is an imposition of the stupid PBA.
                  PBA 2024-2025 season can end by late June next year, so Gilas can start it's training by early July. If for instance Ginebra & SMB figures in the finals of the 3rd conference, then Junmar, CJ Perez, Brownlee, Iskati & Malonzo can be given about 10 days of rest after the championship series before they join Gilas training. That should give Gilas about a month of full time training prior to the 2025 FIBA Asia Cup.
                  "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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                  • Originally posted by paliganibossalfrancis View Post

                    This. FIBA Asia Cup will be held between August 5 and August 17 2025. While Eurobasket will be from Aug 27 to Sep 14, 2025.

                    That Latvia win was VERY CRUCIAL for Gilas moving forward because that's the win that earned the respect of Europeans. Remember back in 2023, Lithuania and Estonia were only sending the B teams to play with us. They don't see any benefit in playing against us but now they surely do. I hope they can get tuneup games against teams preparing for Eurobasket. 3 games against say Jordan, Japan and Korea and then 5 games against European teams is enough prep. If we do this Asia Cup will be a walk in the park.

                    Knowing SBP and PBA though, maximum 1 week training camp and then 2-3 tuneup games against weak teams. lol
                    Playing friendlies against even lower tier European teams like Ukraine, Estonia, Belgium, Georgia would be beneficial to Gilas. That's the beauty of European basketball - halos lahat ng national teams ay very competitive.
                    "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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                    • Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post

                      Playing friendlies against even lower tier European teams like Ukraine, Estonia, Belgium, Georgia would be beneficial to Gilas. That's the beauty of European basketball - halos lahat ng national teams ay very competitive.
                      I also think we should have a tune up game vs SSD, An agreement for both countries.. we will help them to build their preparation and their needs for their basketball program, while we will benefit from them playing against tall, athletic, versatile players who are simulation of playing against Australia... Since SSD has many players developed their skills in Australia...

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                      • Little bit OT: Basketball as a sport again named 2nd most popular sport after football with the total of 3.3 billion fans Worldwide, as per Neilsen research data (one of most trusted websites)... One advantage basketball against cricket, is that they are more globally relevant than cricket that just sticks in Indian subcontinent.. even non basketball countries such as Indonesia, Germany, Britain gaining fans from the sport and it's growing every year... It also helps that basketball is an Olympic sport while cricket is not... As a basketball fan itself, I'm happy that the sport is getting bigger and bigger and who knows, the sport will rival football as the most popular sport worldwide




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                        • Not sure where to post it so i'll just say it here, now that Olympics season is here and we have other sports competing without basketball, youre gonna see some drive by posts by people on social media condeming basketball for getting too much funding instead of the sports that qualified. Which i think the argument is extremely dumb, considering the fact that funding comes from private entities. Would I like other sports to get more funding? of course, but the real reason why people still invest in basketball is because its popular. No offense but remove the Olympic season and whos really gonna care about some other sports apart from basketball, volleyball and boxing. (football too to some extent for filipinos)

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                          • Originally posted by Joe Yabuki View Post
                            Not sure where to post it so i'll just say it here, now that Olympics season is here and we have other sports competing without basketball, youre gonna see some drive by posts by people on social media condeming basketball for getting too much funding instead of the sports that qualified. Which i think the argument is extremely dumb, considering the fact that funding comes from private entities. Would I like other sports to get more funding? of course, but the real reason why people still invest in basketball is because its popular. No offense but remove the Olympic season and whos really gonna care about some other sports apart from basketball, volleyball and boxing. (football too to some extent for filipinos)
                            In other countries, you may win as many medals as you can but if you are not able to win a medal in team sports (basketball, football, handball, volleyball and rugby), the country will still question you. in china and ofcourse US, basketball is a blue ribbon sport in their olympic quest despite the sport only accounts for 4 medals (2 5x5, 2 3x3).
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                            • Originally posted by Joe Yabuki View Post
                              Not sure where to post it so i'll just say it here, now that Olympics season is here and we have other sports competing without basketball, youre gonna see some drive by posts by people on social media condeming basketball for getting too much funding instead of the sports that qualified. Which i think the argument is extremely dumb, considering the fact that funding comes from private entities. Would I like other sports to get more funding? of course, but the real reason why people still invest in basketball is because its popular. No offense but remove the Olympic season and whos really gonna care about some other sports apart from basketball, volleyball and boxing. (football too to some extent for filipinos)
                              I'm tired of those people who keep bashing basketball even the sport also don't have support by the government (money wise)... But when basketball won last Asian games, those people are also come first to congratulate the team.. they are hypocrite.. they even don't know what sport category Carlos Yulo plays, or EJ Obiena.. they just bashing for attention...

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                              • Originally posted by ja.he View Post

                                In other countries, you may win as many medals as you can but if you are not able to win a medal in team sports (basketball, football, handball, volleyball and rugby), the country will still question you. in china and ofcourse US, basketball is a blue ribbon sport in their olympic quest despite the sport only accounts for 4 medals (2 5x5, 2 3x3).
                                I remember last year, China didn't won Gold medal in Asian games, the whole basketball community of China was on agony... They got more than 200 golds but still not satisfied when their basketball team disappoints them...

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