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  • Originally posted by sajubeads View Post
    Japhet should retire and should be replace by Baltazar. Lot of guys forget Tuffin who is Fiba eligible. Tall good shooter and physical defender. And upgrade over Oftana and tonetino and even Malonzo are SF, but then he is not from MVP/SMC group
    Originally posted by sroth3839 View Post
    I’d include Tuffin in that list.

    Might be a better option as a Dwight sub than Oftana.
    I had a feeling I forgot someone.​ Yeah, Tuffin. Thanks!

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    • Originally posted by IPC View Post

      In the triangle, anyone can initiate in theory. The thing is, I've only seen initiators from 1 to 4, from the Bulls to the Lakers to San Mig to Ginebra. I haven't watched much Alaska. In our context, even the 5-man should be able to initiate if 6'6" or under (make him a wing).
      Im talking about effectiveness. The teams offense flowed the best when the ball passes through JF in the post. Even with Kai passing from the high post the offense looked best with JF passing from the post. We won with Kouame and with JF on the bench. But to me it looked more like Kouame doing things on D and O rather actions from the triangle. Even in GSM it was only effective when CS was attracting attention from the post.

      I would like to see how Cone adjusts without JF or Kouame. Edu even when healthy is not a reliable scorer in the paint. They wont have that paint presence. I havent seen the triangle succeed without one or two sublime scorers who can score in the paint. From MJ with his fadeaways to Shaq and Kobe. Even GSM bogs down IMO without its advantage in talent even with CS there.

      Lets see how Cone adjusts without a sublime scorer or post presence.

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      • Originally posted by IPC View Post

        I have the feeling that Josh is more of a professional coach than a development one.
        Sir IPC,

        diba Dayun ur are currently one of the AC of the Senior at TnT..

        man oh man..

        that is why.

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        • No serious team would get that imbecile Joke Reyes. Yes, I do hate the guy because he doesn't have delicadeza. Any guy with honor would have relinquished the post with the recent WC results.
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          • In other countries like serbia junior tournaments is a springboard not only for players but young coaches as well josh got his turn its the turn for young aspiring international ready pinoy coaches to turn over
            To becomes Asia's Best, we need to compete against the World's Best..
            1 Big 4 small > 5 out offense.

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            • Cant they just appoint josh as the coach of nlex? Mpic has no plans for nlex anyway aside for tanking

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              • Geo Chiu's play is really raw. We need to find a solid replacement for Abai real soon. He got a game-high 16 rebounds though against an overmatched Taiwan-B. Still, I don't see him as a serviceable off the bench big for Gilas.

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                • As far a young homegrown option slightly above the level of chiu, i would like raven cortez to be given consideration, if he can improve his physical strength and stay healthy he is as better option than chiu at 4, longer and good defender and better offense than chiu, he was actually a mobile big back then that he can even guard a 3 during his youth days but injuries have slow him down

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                  • Originally posted by one21guns View Post
                    Geo Chiu's play is really raw. We need to find a solid replacement for Abai real soon. He got a game-high 16 rebounds though against an overmatched Taiwan-B. Still, I don't see him as a serviceable off the bench big for Gilas.
                    How about Brix Versoza of UST? obviously raw but he's a legit 6'10 and built like a young Junmar

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                    • Originally posted by carmelo7 View Post

                      How about Brix Versoza of UST? obviously raw but he's a legit 6'10 and built like a young Junmar
                      Abai will be a big loss. We are lucky we have AJ and Kai in the pipeline. IMO Boatwright is a good upgrade. Now we have a tall, agile and very young front court.

                      But because another big is taking the NP spot, we need to look for an able local wing to replace JB.

                      I have no doubt the guard spots are in good hands but very worried that due to Junemar's impending departure we need to sacrifice the wing spot (JB/JC) for a big again.

                      That's a very tough shoe to fill for a local but Holt exemption can solve this problem. Or let's ask for the stars and hope for a JC exemption.

                      Anyway that was out of topic, but I think Brix should be assimilated with cadet-level team already at least. We need to fast track his development so we can stick with a naturalized wing instead of going with Boatwright.
                      Manifesting: Philippines top 5 in the FIBA World Rankings

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                      • but there is no cadet team, and the one handling the young ballers is a complete Joke.
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                        • Seems like the u16 to u18 teams exist out of compliance to FIBA and not for any other reason,

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                          • Originally posted by CoJ View Post
                            Seems like the u16 to u18 teams exist out of compliance to FIBA and not for any other reason,
                            Someone finally said it.

                            2024 and still no grassroots program which we have been saying for the last 10 years.

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                            • Glad to see 6-foot-4 Dwight Ramos playing the 2-guard spot now with Gilas which wasn't the case with Gilas under coach Chot Reyes. It's always been a dream seeing 6-foot-4/6-foot-5 natural shooting guards in the national team. As I've said a couple of times before, I want to make a distinction between a 2-guard/shooting guard and a small forward or 3 spot though both are considered as wings. Calvin Oftana & Jamie Malonzo are considered wings but I don't think any of them can play the 2-guard spot in high level basketball.

                              I can't help but wish that Gilas has another athletic 6-foot-4 natural shooting guard. Imagine a 6-foot-4 Chris Newsome or 6-foot-4 Jordan Heading in Gilas uniform. That would be gravy.
                              Last edited by JAMSKIE; 07-21-2024, 04:40 AM.
                              "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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                              • Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post
                                Glad to see 6-foot-4 Dwight Ramos playing the 2-guard spot now with Gilas which wasn't the case with Gilas under coach Chot Reyes. It's always been a dream seeing 6-foot-4/6-foot-5 natural shooting guards in the national team. As I've said a couple of times before, I want to make a distinction between a 2-guard/shooting guard and a small forward or 3 spot though both are considered as wings. Calvin Oftana & Jamie Malonzo are considered wings but I don't think any of them can play the 2-guard spot in high level basketball.

                                I can't help but wish that Gilas has another athletic 6-foot-4 natural shooting guard. Imagine a 6-foot-4 Chris Newsome or 6-foot-4 Jordan Heading in Gilas uniform. That would be gravy.
                                Correct. Guard-wings are supposed to drown the 3-point shooting threats. Forward-wings are supposed to starve in-out feeds and kickouts to and from inside power-playing bigs. Those are completely different defense jobs that only nba super-athletes do well in serious games. No seyer coaching even shows understanding of such basic balling principles. Tang*a, hindi nga magaling sa shooting mga kinukuha nilang turista, bano pa sa depensa. Hindi dapat lumagpas ng seaba mga seyers.

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