Philippines Senior National Team Thread Vol. V

[r1ck]

With all the nitpicking going on with Oftana I think he still is a better shooter than Malonzo in FIBA and has proven to be a capable 3 and D wing in the last Asian Games. But I do hope that coach Jong develops Jonel Policarpio who is a quicker and more athletic version of Oftana.

[TheRodster21]

What I noticed was that even without Mackenzie Moore the offense of SGA flowed decently in the Finals with Heading as PG. His main weakness though reared in the end game. He is not a high FT shooter. He missed 2 FTs I think in the last 2 minutes. In the second time around he was not aggressive in driving in the 2 man game with Dwight and passed it too early. It’s really weird for a high 3 FG shooter I think he is just 60-70% FT shooter.

I decided to look at his career stats, his free throw shooting overall with Gilas is at 71%. Which is on the lower side for a guard. I agree with paliganibossalfrancis that he works best as an offscreen or movement shooter type.

https://basketball.realgm.com/player/Jordan-Heading/Summary/83642

[Silent Killer]

I decided to look at his career stats, his free throw shooting overall with Gilas is at 71%. Which is on the lower side for a guard. I agree with paliganibossalfrancis that he works best as an offscreen or movement shooter type.

https://basketball.realgm.com/player.../Summary/83642

his average in nbl 1 recently

https://nbl1.com.au/player-listing/jordan-heading

[BJ_Reloaded]

With all the nitpicking going on with Oftana I think he still is a better shooter than Malonzo in FIBA and has proven to be a capable 3 and D wing in the last Asian Games. But I do hope that coach Jong develops Jonel Policarpio who is a quicker and more athletic version of Oftana.

Sir r1ck,

on the coming Gov. Cup, I'm looking for Ken Tuffin and Will Navarro's work rate, if they are still one of the few candidates for that possible 3 and D wing.

for sometime those dudes was always mentioned on several discussions but due to some events esp. to WillNav who only played several games from the previous conferences after his full recovery from ACL.

as for Ken, well I hope this time he is well adjusted to the PBA games after his stint in NZL.

let's see.

[CoJ]

Im just happy that the current gilas regime puts premium on height

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[CoJ]

https://www.spin.ph/basketball/fiba/gilas-pilipinas-taller-generational-talents-tim-cone-says-unique-time-for-us-a795-20240718?utm_source=Facebook-Spin&utm_medium=Ownshare&utm_campaign=20240718-fbnp-basketball-gilas-pilipinas-taller-generational-talents-tim-cone-says-unique-time-for-us-a795-20240718-fbnew&fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR1FdCmYY2tUCZr_-jcKk3wSVEOcyMrf_5bbV4RntWNJIbl48fJQshAzyrw_aem_HoRT7D7bqqRQT4VOA1_Ylg

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[IPC]

Im just happy that the current gilas regime puts premium on height

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https://www.spin.ph/basketball/fiba/...qqRQT4VOA1_Ylg

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Now we need to train versatility to go with that height. 6'5"+ wings and 6'7"+ fours who can switch, and even some 6'4"-6'5" wings who can defend 2 and 3. Can complement Kai and AJ. Puerto Rico, Brazil.

As for Arana, yeah, Cone's correct. With his size, he should be a four at most. However, his skillset and maybe quickness is that of a 5.

[live_evil]

i laugh at all those who suggest Arana to be serviceable for Gilas in international competitions. Good thing Cone, realizes that PBA bigs have to be BIG if they want to be competitive. Anyone not named Pingris or De Ocampo will not be acceptable if they are around just 6'5-6'6.

[r1ck]

And the local leagues arent helping either take for example in the MPBL Baltazar was played mainly as a center/power forward but during his time with Gilas he became a servicable wing player. And we always see it in the PBA as well, Northport had Lucero a natural wing playing center and Navarro who was played as a wing in FIBA being used exclusively as a powerforward.

[IPC]

And the local leagues arent helping either take for example in the MPBL Baltazar was played mainly as a center/power forward but during his time with Gilas he became a servicable wing player. And we always see it in the PBA as well, Northport had Lucero a natural wing playing center and Navarro who was played as a wing in FIBA being used exclusively as a powerforward.

Navarro did push the ball and bring it up in transition. And PF can sometimes be occupied by a wing. Kawhi, Tatum, Shane Battier. The problem will lie if the wing is used like a traditional 4 instead of a wing.

[Rds]

https://www.spin.ph/basketball/fiba/...qqRQT4VOA1_Ylg


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Cone is saying that only Kai, JF, Edu and Japeth can play C in Fiba. Even Japeth has some problems. So when JF and Japeth retires and if Edu is injured we only have Kai as C. Boatwright cant play C in Fiba. Who will be our 2nd C when Edu is injured? Soft Chiu?

[ja.he]

Cone is saying that only Kai, JF, Edu and Japeth can play C in Fiba. Even Japeth has some problems. So when JF and Japeth retires and if Edu is injured we only have Kai as C. Boatwright cant play C in Fiba. Who will be our 2nd C when Edu is injured? Soft Chiu?

That's why talent identification, homegrown, fil-for or FSA, is important. SBP needs to incentivized schools who recruit fil-for or FSA at the high school level.

[Rds]

That's why talent identification, homegrown, fil-for or FSA, is important. SBP needs to incentivized schools who recruit fil-for or FSA at the high school level.

I think as Cone says we are just in a short unique period when two generational Pinoy bigs can play on the same team. June Mar and Japeth could not do it without an NP center. I dont think Kai and oft injured Edu can do it either. PBA has to accept it also. Removing import height limits is a way for potential center NPs to play in the PBA. We are just in this short unique period where we can afford to not have a center NP. When JF retires we need one.

[ja.he]

I think as Cone says we are just in a short unique period when two generational Pinoy bigs can play on the same team. June Mar and Japeth could not do it without an NP center. I dont think Kai and oft injured Edu can do it either. PBA has to accept it also. Removing import height limits is a way for potential center NPs to play in the PBA. We are just in this short unique period where we can afford to not have a center NP. When JF retires we need one.

In addition, I hope that UAAP jrs. team should recruit young players (13-15) from other countries as their FSAs. We could lure some of them (2-3 players) to play as locals for Gilas once they are naturalized.

I think identifying homegrown is not really that hard as we could find them anytime. Identifying fil-fors will be more challenging but as long as we have connections there and the parents are cooperating, there should be a little problem. FSAs should be identified as early as high school IMO so, by the time they play in college, they are atleast developed.

Anyway, Snow has a rumor that the PBA is on the process of shifting back to two conferences and that's the reason why Ginebra wants to have its own grand slam run. If ever that the two conference format comes back, I hope that the import-laid conference allows one import of unlimited height plus naturalized players/FSAs of unlimited height.

[Dotch]

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