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  • Originally posted by Rds View Post

    Amos was Malonzo’s replacement. Japeth was Edu’s. Japeth will probably retire again. Who will be Edus replacement if he gets injured?
    that's why we need to seek exemption of Brandon Ganuelas Rosser or Mike Philips.

    Mike Philips is more feasible since he studied in La Salle. We need an agile rim protector outside of Kai.
    Manifesting: Philippines top 5 in the FIBA World Rankings

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    • Originally posted by Rds View Post

      Amos was Malonzo’s replacement. Japeth was Edu’s. Japeth will probably retire again. Who will be Edus replacement if he gets injured?
      Japeth will remain as an alternate unless he's injured again. Which leaves:

      Ange if he gets exemption

      Geo Chiu --> he improved and not a bad way to get exposure as a backup.

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      • Originally posted by carmelo7 View Post
        That'll be a long list of players we'd love to be provided exemptions :
        Lucero 6'6
        Ballungay 6'6
        Holt 6'3
        Barefield 6'1
        Koon 6'5
        M. Philipps 6'7
        QMB 6'9
        Christian David 6'6
        Kouame 6'10

        We could send these guys during SEA & Asian Games along with Boatwright.

        The games (& size) of Christian David, Lucero & Ballungay, Rosario at first glance look similar. Last time we had these dept and skill was during the days of D.Seigle, Jay Washington, Mike Holper, Devance, Norwood
        What's the update on Boatwright's naturalization?

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        • Originally posted by sroth3839 View Post

          What's the update on Boatwright's naturalization?
          in the Senate. Should be done deal by Q4 this year maybe before November window. Real question is when do we replace Brownlee with Boatwright and who's gonna fill JB's shoes as our top perimeter player.

          Wishful thinking but Holt exemption and Abbarientos learning the triangle as early as now will change the whole dynamic of Gilas moving forward. In OQT, we had a solid system but lacked star power we could turn to during the last few seconds of the shot clock.

          An ideal transition would be:

          Brownlee --> Holt (if exempted)
          Scottie (if still injured) --> Abbarientos
          Japeth --> Edu
          Junemar --> Boatwright
          Oftana --> Malonzo
          Amos --> Abando

          We go younger and more athletic with this lineup.

          After FIBA Asia Cup 2025 honestly we should phase out Brownlee and Junemar already. They're too old. and also Scottie if his injury will affect his effectiveness on the court. Slipped disc is no joke especially if his game relies on explosiveness and finishing around the rim.

          Newsome should also be replaced after 2025. Too old for 2027 and beyond. Worthy replacement? Wishful thinking again but 27-year-old Sedrick Barefield. If not possible then take a closer look at Dalph Panopio. Can't go wrong also with a tall and shifty point guard like Juan Gomez de Liano.

          All in their primes this is a scary sight to see:

          PG - Barefield, Abbarientos, Perez
          SG - Dwight, Abando
          SF - Holt, Malonzo, Quiambao
          PF - Edu, Tamayo
          C - Kai, Boatwright
          Last edited by paliganibossalfrancis; 07-15-2024, 07:01 PM.
          Manifesting: Philippines top 5 in the FIBA World Rankings

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          • Originally posted by paliganibossalfrancis View Post

            in the Senate. Should be done deal by Q4 this year maybe before November window. Real question is when do we replace Brownlee with Boatwright and who's gonna fill JB's shoes as our top perimeter player.

            Wishful thinking but Holt exemption and Abbarientos learning the triangle as early as now will change the whole dynamic of Gilas moving forward. In OQT, we had a solid system but lacked star power we could turn to during the last few seconds of the shot clock.

            An ideal transition would be:

            Brownlee --> Holt (if exempted)
            Scottie (if still injured) --> Abbarientos
            Japeth --> Edu
            Junemar --> Boatwright
            Oftana --> Malonzo
            Amos --> Abando

            We go younger and more athletic with this lineup.

            After FIBA Asia Cup 2025 honestly we should phase out Brownlee and Junemar already. They're too old. and also Scottie if his injury will affect his effectiveness on the court. Slipped disc is no joke especially if his game relies on explosiveness and finishing around the rim.

            Newsome should also be replaced after 2025. Too old for 2027 and beyond. Worthy replacement? Wishful thinking again but 27-year-old Sedrick Barefield. If not possible then take a closer look at Dalph Panopio. Can't go wrong also with a tall and shifty point guard like Juan Gomez de Liano.

            All in their primes this is a scary sight to see:

            PG - Barefield, Abbarientos, Perez
            SG - Dwight, Abando
            SF - Holt, Malonzo, Quiambao
            PF - Edu, Tamayo
            C - Kai, Boatwright
            Schonny Winston is worth looking into as a Newsome replacement.

            JB32 will mostly likely be our NP till Asia Cup.

            Bennie will be paraded starting from the SEA Games 2025 and WCQ 2027.

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            • Originally posted by paliganibossalfrancis View Post

              that's why we need to seek exemption of Brandon Ganuelas Rosser or Mike Philips.

              Mike Philips is more feasible since he studied in La Salle. We need an agile rim protector outside of Kai.
              For me, the possibility of Mike Philipps getting a FIBA exemption will have a significant impact on Gilas. The guy is really a workhorse in rebounding. At 6-foot-8 & athletic at that, Mike P. can play both the 4 & 5 positions. I think in Asian level basketball, having an athletic & tough 6-foot-8 big guy to play the center position won''t be a mismatch. Lebanon's stretch big 6-foot-8 Ali Haidar sometimes plays the center spot & hindi naman sya nadedehado sa match up.
              "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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              • Originally posted by sroth3839 View Post

                Schonny Winston is worth looking into as a Newsome replacement.

                JB32 will mostly likely be our NP till Asia Cup.

                Bennie will be paraded starting from the SEA Games 2025 and WCQ 2027.
                Agree about Schonny Winston. Unlike Newsome who is a natural wing, Winston is a natural point guard. I think Winstom played as point guard during his college days in the US.
                "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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                • Originally posted by sroth3839 View Post

                  Schonny Winston is worth looking into as a Newsome replacement.

                  JB32 will mostly likely be our NP till Asia Cup.

                  Bennie will be paraded starting from the SEA Games 2025 and WCQ 2027.
                  yep. Winston also. Watch him turn into a superstar with Converge. his game reminds me so much of Myles Powell
                  Manifesting: Philippines top 5 in the FIBA World Rankings

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                  • Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post

                    For me, the possibility of Mike Philipps getting a FIBA exemption will have a significant impact on Gilas. The guy is really a workhorse in rebounding. At 6-foot-8 & athletic at that, Mike P. can play both the 4 & 5 positions. I think in Asian level basketball, having an athletic & tough 6-foot-8 big guy to play the center position won''t be a mismatch. Lebanon's stretch big 6-foot-8 Ali Haidar sometimes plays the center spot & hindi naman sya nadedehado sa match up.
                    Exemption of Mike Philips means we have the luxury to cut Kevin Quiambao or Carl Tamayo from the lineup if they don't improve. Both showed promise in Asian windows but their OQT showing were dismal. Philips is an intimidating presence on both ends of the floor. Size, hustle, energy, not afraid of physicality. We'll be a tougher team with him. He's like a taller Mark Pingris who's actually really skilled.
                    Manifesting: Philippines top 5 in the FIBA World Rankings

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                    • Originally posted by paliganibossalfrancis View Post

                      Exemption of Mike Philips means we have the luxury to cut Kevin Quiambao or Carl Tamayo from the lineup if they don't improve. Both showed promise in Asian windows but their OQT showing were dismal. Philips is an intimidating presence on both ends of the floor. Size, hustle, energy, not afraid of physicality. We'll be a tougher team with him. He's like a taller Mark Pingris who's actually really skilled.
                      I feel both KQ and Tamayo are gonna struggle at the world level. Their skillset simply doesn’t bode well against the lengthier Euro players.

                      Against Asian and Latino teams, they can still contribute.

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                      • Originally posted by carmelo7 View Post
                        That'll be a long list of players we'd love to be provided exemptions :
                        Lucero 6'6
                        Ballungay 6'6
                        Holt 6'3
                        Barefield 6'1
                        Koon 6'5
                        M. Philipps 6'7
                        QMB 6'9
                        Christian David 6'6
                        Kouame 6'10

                        We could send these guys during SEA & Asian Games along with Boatwright.

                        The games (& size) of Christian David, Lucero & Ballungay, Rosario at first glance look similar. Last time we had these dept and skill was during the days of D.Seigle, Jay Washington, Mike Holper, Devance, Norwood
                        why do we want a lot of players to be exempted? are we not confident our locals (and aplayers who got their passport prior to the 16th bday) can help our NP?
                        i have nothing against exemption but, as it implies, this will not be normally given to countries. so there is a possibility none of them gets exempted, or 1 or 2 would. Erika Dy should handle this, but the coaching staff and the fans shouldnt even think about these players as part of Gilas unless cleared.
                        i think another question to be asked is:, out of the list, if we can only exempt 1, who should be it?
                        WE DON'T COUNT YEARS, WE COUNT CENTURIES

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                        SANTO TOMAS APAT NA DAAN

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                        • Originally posted by C2Hamm View Post
                          why do we want a lot of players to be exempted? are we not confident our locals (and aplayers who got their passport prior to the 16th bday) can help our NP?
                          i have nothing against exemption but, as it implies, this will not be normally given to countries. so there is a possibility none of them gets exempted, or 1 or 2 would. Erika Dy should handle this, but the coaching staff and the fans shouldnt even think about these players as part of Gilas unless cleared.
                          i think another question to be asked is:, out of the list, if we can only exempt 1, who should be it?
                          For me, Mike or Ange. They could solve a lot of interior defense problems if AJ goes down, and thus, help put less pressure on our perimeter players. They have a safety net inside, e.

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                          • Ange should be priority with Phillips next. He is our Rodman. Tireless workhorse.
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                            • Originally posted by sroth3839 View Post
                              It's possible as Gilas is now primarily an SMC-backed team. Chualay and Marcial work in tandem so the latter should have no issues cooperating.

                              I hope CTC reconsiders expanding the pool to at least 16 for the Asia Cup. It's a longer tournament and we need to have some depth.

                              A 12-team pool works for the windows as those are only two-games.
                              Originally posted by Giannis34GOD View Post
                              Unfortunately CTC will still stick with his 14 man roster...


                              https://www.spin.ph/basketball/fiba/...feed_1_section
                              Originally posted by paliganibossalfrancis View Post
                              this can work until FIBA Asia Cup 2025. Beyond that Cone must make major adjustments in the pool. He needs to replace 6-7 players if we want to be competitive in WC 2027.
                              ​​
                              Originally posted by Giannis34GOD View Post
                              I don't think CTC will replace half of his line up.. I see only 2 or 3 players will be replaced.. his triangle is hard to learn.. it takes years to learn the system.. or actually I don't see he will replace his current roster.. maybe additional players.. but that's Tim cone, who are we to decide his strategy for Gilas? I just hope that Baltazar and Abando should be there.. I know CTC wants a two way players, these two are good 2 way players... Although RJ and Go have a legit chance now since they are now playing in Ginebra and will learn the system of CTC moving forward...

                              ​Here's the ages of the 14 after the Asia Cup:

                              Japeth (reserve): 38
                              JB: 37
                              June Mar: 35
                              Newsome: 35
                              Scottie: 32
                              CJ: 31
                              Oftana: 29
                              Malonzo: 29
                              Dwight: 26
                              AJ: 25
                              Carl: 24
                              Quiambao: 24
                              Kai: 23
                              Mason (reserve): 20

                              By the time of the World Cup, here are the ages of the players:

                              Japeth (reserve): 40
                              JB: 39
                              June Mar: 37
                              Newsome: 37
                              Scottie: 34
                              CJ: 33
                              Oftana: 31
                              Malonzo: 31
                              Dwight: 28
                              AJ: 27
                              Carl: 26
                              Quiambao: 26
                              Kai: 25
                              Mason (reserve): 22

                              We need someone who can take the place of June Mar and Newsome in case they decide to retire. JB might retire too.​

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                              • Originally posted by sroth3839 View Post
                                I feel both KQ and Tamayo are gonna struggle at the world level. Their skillset simply doesn’t bode well against the lengthier Euro players.

                                Against Asian and Latino teams, they can still contribute.
                                After AJ, Carl, KQ, and Mason, our pool at four is just Balti, and the naturalized players JB and Bennie. Maybe Carino. Troy is 32, has a history of poor performances in FIBA, and is a defensive liability. Arana exclusively plays center in the PBA.

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