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  • Originally posted by IPC View Post

    Here's my take on who should be considered first per position:

    Guards: Bolick, Heading
    Wings: Navarro, Lopez, Bayla, Harris
    Big: Carino

    Bolick and Heading are the best options at guard, and Heading's no slouch on defense.

    As for the wings, defense should be the priority, so it's Navarro, Lopez, Bayla, and Harris. Same rationale for bigs, that's why Carino should come first in my opinion.​
    No love for Baltazar? He is the most impactful non Gilas player not in the pool... With Baltazar, we don't need Japeth anymore...

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    • Originally posted by Giannis34GOD View Post
      No love for Baltazar? He is the most impactful non Gilas player not in the pool... With Baltazar, we don't need Japeth anymore...
      I have to see him make an impact in the PBA first. Has he retained his mobility, something like that?

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      • Originally posted by IPC View Post

        I have to see him make an impact in the PBA first. Has he retained his mobility, something like that?
        He already proved even he's not yet in the PBA when he was there before... And I'm sure he's a good fit with Triangle system... He's like JDV..

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        • Japeth still 6'9 and has been a placeholder 5 for us even internationally..but balti has proven to be a good 3 outside asia
          To becomes Asia's Best, we need to compete against the World's Best..
          1 Big 4 small > 5 out offense.

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          • I can see the apprehension of some posters here about the idea of including Justin Baltazar to the Gilas pool. Baltazar has relegated himself playing in a low level competition of MPBL which means he has soaked himself with that poor level competition that has a detrimental effect on his development as a player. Baltazar has to prove himself that he can play in high level basketball before he can earn nod of coach Tim Cone & SBP.

            For me the ideal No. of players in a national pool for a 4-year cycle is between 16 to 18 players.
            "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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            • Originally posted by carmelo7 View Post
              Target for Exemptions should include
              - Kouame
              - M. Philipps
              - QMB
              - Barefield
              - Koon (I dont think there's an immediate need for a player like Kai Ballungay, but Koon who at 6'5 can play the point seems more logical)

              Expedite Development for the following
              - Lopez
              - Konov
              - Harris

              If all of these materialized we're looking at a pool for the next 10-12 years

              Kai 7'2
              Kouame 6'11
              QMB 6'10 (looked 6'9 beside Sean Alter of UP)
              A. Edu 6'9
              Philipps 6'8
              Boatwright 6'9

              Konov 6'7
              Tamayo 6'7
              KQ 6'5
              Harris 6'5
              Lopez 6'5
              F. Edu 6'4

              Ramos 6'4
              Koon 6'5
              Barefield 6'2
              Winston 6'1
              How realistic can Kouame get a local exemption for us? And to think, is this something that the SBP is really targeting or considering? Or this is just a pipedream suggestion from Analyze?

              Even QMB, how old can he realistically get that? Same age as Newsome at 33 yrs old? This is considering as well Newsome's residency in the Philippines (since college). I doubt QMB will get an exemption anytime soon.

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              • Originally posted by DenzelGreat8 View Post

                How realistic can Kouame get a local exemption for us? And to think, is this something that the SBP is really targeting or considering? Or this is just a pipedream suggestion from Analyze?

                Even QMB, how old can he realistically get that? Same age as Newsome at 33 yrs old? This is considering as well Newsome's residency in the Philippines (since college). I doubt QMB will get an exemption anytime soon.
                from that five, only Mike Philips and Chris Koon have the most realistic chance to be considered as locals.
                Last edited by ja.he; 07-11-2024, 10:39 PM.
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                • Originally posted by carmelo7 View Post
                  Target for Exemptions should include
                  - Kouame
                  - M. Philipps
                  - QMB
                  - Barefield
                  - Koon (I dont think there's an immediate need for a player like Kai Ballungay, but Koon who at 6'5 can play the point seems more logical)

                  Expedite Development for the following
                  - Lopez
                  - Konov
                  - Harris

                  If all of these materialized we're looking at a pool for the next 10-12 years

                  Kai 7'2
                  Kouame 6'11
                  QMB 6'10 (looked 6'9 beside Sean Alter of UP)
                  A. Edu 6'9
                  Philipps 6'8
                  Boatwright 6'9

                  Konov 6'7
                  Tamayo 6'7
                  KQ 6'5
                  Harris 6'5
                  Lopez 6'5
                  F. Edu 6'4

                  Ramos 6'4
                  Koon 6'5
                  Barefield 6'2
                  Winston 6'1
                  You can throw in 6'8 Jayden Harper. I think he's eligible as local.

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                  • Originally posted by reamily View Post
                    but balti has proven to be a good 3 outside asia
                    that was 4 years ago, he regressed since then. last time he played international ball (dubai strong group) he exclusively played as a big and can't keep up with wing players

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                    • Originally posted by alfrancis View Post

                      You can throw in 6'8 Jayden Harper. I think he's eligible as local.
                      wish we have RHjr & dylan instead

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                      • Gilas Pilipinas center June Mar Fajardo with Ms. Alise ( 'Ms. Latvia') #basketballnationph #JuneMarFajardo #GilasPilipinas #MsLatvia


                        If you guys were wondering,what Alise looks like on video,fast forward to 3:35 to 5:40,a brief interaction with one of the ballboys at 5:37,I'm guessing she's their interpreter/guide while in Latvia. https://youtu.be/Twy4EpIGUlo?si=_TcRNfvH9plxZkJ1

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                        • Originally posted by IPC View Post
                          Here's my take on who should be considered first per position:

                          Guards: Bolick, Heading
                          Wings: Navarro, Lopez, Bayla, Harris
                          Big: Carino

                          Bolick and Heading are the best options at guard, and Heading's no slouch on defense.

                          As for the wings, defense should be the priority, so it's Navarro, Lopez, Bayla, and Harris. Same rationale for bigs, that's why Carino should come first in my opinion.​
                          I'll add Schonny to the list. He's a good defender, and he's 26.

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                          • IPC

                            Bro, do you think that if a player is a decent defender in the PBA, there's a very good chance he will carry that over in the FIBA game, especially in the Asian level?
                            "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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                            • Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post
                              IPC Bro, do you think that if a player is a decent defender in the PBA, there's a very good chance he will carry that over in the FIBA game, especially in the Asian level?
                              Not necessarily. Pogoy's known for his defense in the PBA but was a liability on that end in FIBA. June Mar's a multiple-time All-Defense Team member, but he struggles defending in FIBA without a helper behind him. Barroca is a good PBA defender, but it didn't amount to much in FIBA.

                              I just look at tools (length, lateral quickness), commitment on that end, awareness, and for bigs, timing too. That's why I think a guy like Carino can translate in the Asian level because of his length and timing. With Schonny, he has good lateral quickness and has commitment on defense.

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                              • Originally posted by IPC View Post

                                Not necessarily. Pogoy's known for his defense in the PBA but was a liability on that end in FIBA. June Mar's a multiple-time All-Defense Team member, but he struggles defending in FIBA without a helper behind him. Barroca is a good PBA defender, but it didn't amount to much in FIBA.

                                I just look at tools (length, lateral quickness), commitment on that end, awareness, and for bigs, timing too. That's why I think a guy like Carino can translate in the Asian level because of his length and timing. With Schonny, he has good lateral quickness and has commitment on defense.
                                Pba players defend with their hands which usually gets called foul in FIBA. Hence the disaster that was the 2019 Gilas under Yeng.


                                we need to learn how to defend using our bodies and positioning.

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