Philippines Senior National Team Thread Vol. V

[paliganibossalfrancis]

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BLeague B2 Champ Kiefer Ravena

[ARMIR]

Yeah, we need to add in case of injury (AJ, Scottie) or age retirement (JB, June Mar, Newsome). Expand the pool. I expect Japeth to retire again, so that shrinks the pool to 13. We will need another big, hopefully one who plays D. Malonzo's now injury-prone, so we need someone to sub for him at the wing. As for Scottie, sub at the guard too, or maybe a wing, since Cone's putting Oftana at 2.

The only that is FIBA ready at the OQT level that could be a replacement for Scottie is Bolick,they gotta have Heading too,just in case they feel like Perez is not a good matchup on teams they have to face in a tournament,as for the bigs,heck Balti,Geo,Carino could be a good backup for AJ even if AJ is on the team,he has to have limited minutes not at 30+mins per game,for Oftana and Malonzo,the two that comes to mind are Lopez and Navarro.

[ja.he]

This is a bad decision imho. We've had so many bigs waived in the B-League without seeing playing time in favor of better foreign forwards and centers. Only Kai has had a break there as a pinoy bigman because of the number of viewers and clout he brought with him. Quite a misstep, Tamayo and Baltazar's developments have been bottlenecked for signing contracts there, no idea why they thought this was a good idea, going to the PBA would've been better

KBL is the better option for our bigger players as they can go side to side with the World Import there.

[C2Hamm]

Sir C2,

we could never tell.

in an imperfect and filthy world of ours, money talks so loud.

in fairness to Rutgers Univ. it is considered as one of the best schools in the US inside top 50.

they are known academically for courses like IT, Nursing, Biological Science, Sports Science, Finance, Law among others

but on sports specifically on mens and womens basketball, well I considered them in the lower-mid tier team(In my own personal opinion.)

yup he is in the top 5 class of 2025, many thanks to his MVP like performance in a recently concluded Jordan Classic.

if he somehow decided to enter the transfer portal to play in a much higher ranked team chances are his stock may rise significantly

and where talking about 6'4sh to 6'5 ceiling here, there's a lot out there in the pond maybe if he had a growth spurts(many thanks to his Afro genes) to make it to the 6'8 to 6'9 level then that's another story.

amongst the pinoy hafus 6'4 1/2 -6'5 Jalen Green is still the gold standard but we all know he can't crack even the 12th spots of Team Uncle Sam because as I said there's a lot of big fish in the 6'3 to 6'6 category.

he is a one and done prospect. he was the number Home player in his class prior to Flagg reclassifying up and Ace Bailey suddenly going Tmac on everybody. why would a 1 and done player go to a transfer portal if he can go to the NBA after his 1 year or play as an import in another country?

look, if he suddenly suits up for Gilas, than yay! a big yay. but career wise, i dont see any advantage of going to the Philippines to play college ball. how will dominating UAAP\NCAA (RP) make his market value above where he is right now?
you are right, money talks the loudest. going to the NBA after 1 year in college will give him that. are you saying a college school in the Philippines can give him NBA level salary to study in the country?

[Giannis34GOD]

It was probably SBP which never invited Balti, not Chua, because the PLDT group and Converge are corporate rivals

Nope.. Balti, like Heading, Abando and other overseas players are not priority.. and if this is the case then why Bolick not invited despite he is already under MVP group?

[Giannis34GOD]

Ange should be classified as a local.

pero wala eh. Mataas masyado pride ni Panlilio. To him, Ange is part of Tab’s circle and that’s an automatic disregard.

Panlilio or PBA not putting him to play even just a regular import in every conference? PBA rules on naturalized players sucks... Even Blatche can't play here despite he's a naturalized Filipino

[sroth3839]

Panlilio or PBA not putting him to play even just a regular import in every conference? PBA rules on naturalized players sucks... Even Blatche can't play here despite he's a naturalized Filipino

It has been a problem since the Douthit days.

[IPC]

It has been a problem since the Douthit days.

With JB's success as our NP, I think that should be rewarded with a permanent roster spot. Not just for him, but for all NP's.

[Metta]

he is a one and done prospect. he was the number Home player in his class prior to Flagg reclassifying up and Ace Bailey suddenly going Tmac on everybody. why would a 1 and done player go to a transfer portal if he can go to the NBA after his 1 year or play as an import in another country?

look, if he suddenly suits up for Gilas, than yay! a big yay. but career wise, i dont see any advantage of going to the Philippines to play college ball. how will dominating UAAP\NCAA (RP) make his market value above where he is right now?
you are right, money talks the loudest. going to the NBA after 1 year in college will give him that. are you saying a college school in the Philippines can give him NBA level salary to study in the country?

It makes no sense for him. Precedents of highly ranked american hs players who went overseas are Jennings, Lamelo and Mudiay. But they went to pro leagues in China and Australia. If money is the motivation, that makes more sense.

In terms of basketball, scouts will take it against him and his stock will drop. Then you add the element of injury, very high risk low reward.

To be an nba lottery pick, timing is very important. Right now he is nba lottery level, he can't make moves that will derail that.

[C2Hamm]

With JB's success as our NP, I think that should be rewarded with a permanent roster spot. Not just for him, but for all NP's.

JB is a Ginebra player. Boatwright is SMB. Kouame is under MVP umbrella. is someone willing to pay Blatche? Douthit looks to be focusing with coaching. i mentioned this months ago. i would like to see the NPs play as local in PBA but we know these players will go and play with the already strong teams. there isnt enough to go around.

[IPC]

That wasn’t a bad roster.

walang kwenta lang talaga and preps.

Not a bad roster for FIBA Asia Cup. Lee, Bolick, Perez and Blatche is a problem for defenses in Asia.

But for Worlds? vs Bogdanovich, Belinelli, Jokic and Mejri? We all saw how that played out.

Compared to 2013-14 FIBA, 2015 FIBA Asia Championship, 2016 OQT, and 2017 FIBA Asia Cup rosters, that roster was bad. I dunno which is worse, that one or the team we sent in the 2022 SEA Games.

The only guys who belonged there were June Mar, Japeth, Blatche, Gabe, CJ, and Bolick. The rest were filler, to be quite blunt. Heck, Blatche was slowing down, and Gabe lost a step. It really lacked quality.

[CoJ]

Compared to 2013-14 FIBA, 2015 FIBA Asia Championship, 2016 OQT, and 2017 FIBA Asia Cup rosters, that roster was bad. I dunno which is worse, that one or the team we sent in the 2022 SEA Games.

The only guys who belonged there were June Mar, Japeth, Blatche, Gabe, CJ, and Bolick. The rest were filler, to be quite blunt. Heck, Blatche was slowing down, and Gabe lost a step. It really lacked quality.

Almazan and Barocca had no business out there. Mark was basically useless since his defense counts as fouls in the fiba setting

[yogaflame]

I will rest about Gilas news for now. Anyway I think we need one or two more 6'10 guys to our line up because we will never know if Kai or Edu or Kraken will get injured. And I hope there will be no Chot Reyes come back again for Gilas , even as president of SBP especially with his relations to Josh his son. That will be bad for Gilas which is on the right track right now.

[ccharmed]

2024 must be marked as the year zero for our national team. It produced the first ever world top 20 beastfighting nt we had ever seen. Brazil would have been in serious trouble with a healthy sotto, edu and thompson onboard.

Coach cone really formed a decent world-class nt. But injuries are deadly, and taking away three of the top seven pinoy nt players is just too much.

The nt will also grow a lot older before the olympics. In the absence of two excellent nba perimeter players like clarkson and green required to go over the hump in asia called australia, and any other top twenty nation, cone definitely would have gambled on other players. His gamble didnt pay off: tamayo, kikiam and amos are too young, untested and limited yet to prosper beyond asean battles.

The aging and battle dominance issues can both be addressed by present non-nba players. Exemptions for kouame and qmb can maintain the extra-strong athletic frontcourt needed for battles above and beyond asia. Athletic and dedicated scoring specialists like abando and heading are also good for at least five years.

As for the pba 6'10 import boatwright, he is of limited naturalization value in my opinion. Why, even the too-old aguilar, brownlee and fajardo were decent. Brazil wouldnt have beaten a healthy frontcourt rotation of fajardo-edu-sotto-kouame today.

The coach must never go lower in quality than cone. The pinoy nt has even bigger tragedies with coaches than players. Coach seyer even has proof of his incompetence and wild emotions recorded on internet videos.

For now, the uaap s87 should be very interesting. Who knows, very good 2028 upgrades could be there.

[IPC]

2024 must be marked as the year zero for our national team. It produced the first ever world top 20 beastfighting nt we had ever seen. Brazil would have been in serious trouble with a healthy sotto, edu and thompson onboard.

Coach cone really formed a decent world-class nt. But injuries are deadly, and taking away three of the top seven pinoy nt players is just too much.

The nt will also grow a lot older before the olympics. In the absence of two excellent nba perimeter players like clarkson and green required to go over the hump in asia called australia, and any other top twenty nation, cone definitely would have gambled on other players. His gamble didnt pay off: tamayo, kikiam and amos are too young, untested and limited yet to prosper beyond asean battles.

The aging and battle dominance issues can both be addressed by present non-nba players. Exemptions for kouame and qmb can maintain the extra-strong athletic frontcourt needed for battles above and beyond asia. Athletic and dedicated scoring specialists like abando and heading are also good for at least five years.

As for the pba 6'10 import boatwright, he is of limited naturalization value in my opinion. Why, even the too-old aguilar, brownlee and fajardo were decent. Brazil wouldnt have beaten a healthy frontcourt rotation of fajardo-edu-sotto-kouame today.

The coach must never go lower in quality than cone. The pinoy nt has even bigger tragedies with coaches than players. Coach seyer even has proof of his incompetence and wild emotions recorded on internet videos.

For now, the uaap s87 should be very interesting. Who knows, very good 2028 upgrades could be there.

We need to expose our younger capable local coaches, get them in the staff. Topex, Jeff Napa, Goldwin Monteverde, Jamike Jarin, Charles Tiu. Ensure that there is a pool of capable coaches.