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  • Geo Chiu is a decent backup C. He is a decent defender but he is soft. Unfortunately, there is no eligible C coming up with starting potential. Kai is good but he is more of a faceup guy. Without JMF we might play like Latvia with no post presence. Which is not bad.

    Demisana, at 6’8 with long wingspan had potential. But his skills have declined. Gagate is 6’9 but has a short wingspan. He will be a 4. So we have 4s like 6’8 Tamayo and 6’7 Balti.

    We have no center except injury prone Edu and Kai. We have no post presence. But again we can emulate perimeter oriented Latvia. It will just be a drastic change. Poor as JF has been at defense he has always provided as offense in the paint. Just his presence alone in the paint gives some pressure. Without him we have to adjust without having it. Kai is more of a faceup guy. Unless we bring Kouame. We lose a high scoring perimeter NP but gain a post presence NP who is an excellent rim protector.

    Without JB and JF, even with Kai and Boatwright we will lose a lot. Both Kai and Boatwright are more perimeter oriented. Boatwright is not a good slasher or post player. I think that setup would be hard. I would rather have Kouame’s defense and post presence than Boatwrights shooting.

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    • Originally posted by Rds View Post

      Ironically SMC is still in our way. They are hell bent to prove that a PBA import is better than Kouame, a guy with a decent Fiba record. They also avoid guys who rub them the wrong way. TC is the coach but Chua calls the shots on personnel. Remember when TC said Balti’s camp rejected their offer? It was probably Chuas reply to him. TC got his foot in his mouth when coach Delta announced that an invite never came.

      TC planning to talk with Heading after Latvia is a good sign. Eventually TC needs to override Chua if he feels its for the better of the team.
      Im just happy that Chua is amenable to having foreign based players in the team ( dwight, kai, edu, tamayo), baby steps. if this was similar to 2018-2019 the entire roster will be composed of pba stars and be marketed as the best philippine team ever assembled.

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      • Originally posted by CoJ View Post
        Im just happy that Chua is amenable to having foreign based players in the team ( dwight, kai, edu, tamayo), baby steps. if this was similar to 2018-2019 the entire roster will be composed of pba stars and be marketed as the best philippine team ever assembled.
        And we witnessed one of the worst rosters assembled in the 2019 WC. Hahahahahaha.

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        • Originally posted by IPC View Post

          And we witnessed one of the worst rosters assembled in the 2019 WC. Hahahahahaha.
          That wasn’t a bad roster.

          walang kwenta lang talaga and preps.

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          • Originally posted by Rds View Post
            Geo Chiu is a decent backup C. He is a decent defender but he is soft. Unfortunately, there is no eligible C coming up with starting potential. Kai is good but he is more of a faceup guy. Without JMF we might play like Latvia with no post presence. Which is not bad.

            Demisana, at 6’8 with long wingspan had potential. But his skills have declined. Gagate is 6’9 but has a short wingspan. He will be a 4. So we have 4s like 6’8 Tamayo and 6’7 Balti.

            We have no center except injury prone Edu and Kai. We have no post presence. But again we can emulate perimeter oriented Latvia. It will just be a drastic change. Poor as JF has been at defense he has always provided as offense in the paint. Just his presence alone in the paint gives some pressure. Without him we have to adjust without having it. Kai is more of a faceup guy. Unless we bring Kouame. We lose a high scoring perimeter NP but gain a post presence NP who is an excellent rim protector.

            Without JB and JF, even with Kai and Boatwright we will lose a lot. Both Kai and Boatwright are more perimeter oriented. Boatwright is not a good slasher or post player. I think that setup would be hard. I would rather have Kouame’s defense and post presence than Boatwrights shooting.
            Ange should be classified as a local.

            pero wala eh. Mataas masyado pride ni Panlilio. To him, Ange is part of Tab’s circle and that’s an automatic disregard.

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            • Originally posted by r1ck View Post
              In your opinion, besides Abando and maybe Mike Phillips (if he gets that exemption), who do you guys think Gilas should get to improve the team for the next World Cup and the upcoming FIBA Asia Cup.
              Naz Reid as Naturalized Player

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              • The dream for Gilas is for somehow the SBP secures the exemptions of Ange Kouame, Mike Phillips and Kai Baluggay. And if that happens imagine a pool of Sotto, Edu, Kouame, Phillips and Balunggay that Gilas can choose from. In the last Asian Games just think if Sotto was available and he was on the floor together with Kouame, I think that would be the best possible front court duo Gilas could have.
                お元気ですか?

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                • Originally posted by Dotch View Post

                  Naz Reid as Naturalized Player
                  Naz Reid might suit up for Bahamas in the future

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                  • Cones analytic guy Patrick Partosa was already with Gials since 2023 world cup...Rhenz Abando was a great spark plug for us
                    Last edited by reamily; 07-08-2024, 05:06 PM.
                    To becomes Asia's Best, we need to compete against the World's Best..
                    1 Big 4 small > 5 out offense.

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                    • If Geo Chiu all of the sudden performs in the Jones Cup..... Maybe, just maybe he deserves a second look.
                      Manifesting: Philippines top 5 in the FIBA World Rankings

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                      • Geo Chiu’s next stop will be in Japan. The 6-foot-10 big man has signed with B.League Division 2 team Ehime. The Orange Vikings made the announcement on Sunday. “Hello everyone, I’m Geo Chiu, and I am truly grateful and honored to play for the Ehime Orange Vikings!” he said. “I’m very excited for what’s to […]


                        Geo Chiu is Japan bound.
                        Manifesting: Philippines top 5 in the FIBA World Rankings

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                        • Originally posted by paliganibossalfrancis View Post
                          This is a bad decision imho. We've had so many bigs waived in the B-League without seeing playing time in favor of better foreign forwards and centers. Only Kai has had a break there as a pinoy bigman because of the number of viewers and clout he brought with him. Quite a misstep, Tamayo and Baltazar's developments have been bottlenecked for signing contracts there, no idea why they thought this was a good idea, going to the PBA would've been better

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                          • Originally posted by empyreanmaze View Post

                            This is a bad decision imho. We've had so many bigs waived in the B-League without seeing playing time in favor of better foreign forwards and centers. Only Kai has had a break there as a pinoy bigman because of the number of viewers and clout he brought with him. Quite a misstep, Tamayo and Baltazar's developments have been bottlenecked for signing contracts there, no idea why they thought this was a good idea, going to the PBA would've been better
                            Hmm, I would disagree for the sake of discussion. But fair point. I believe it's a wise decision for Geo. In the Philippines he already has the reputation of "bonjing," and "malambot". In fact, his batchmates in Ateneo (as in students) apparently collectively thinks he's bano. Like he's only with the Blue Eagles because of his height. I doubt he can change that perception of PBA coaches as well. He'll end up being benched then demoted to the MPBL. Filipino coaches aren't necessarily patient when it comes to developing players, especially our bigs, they want finished products right away. Geo's not built like that. He's Filipino-Chinese. Studied in Xavier. Came from a well-off family. Sheltered. Doesn't have that killer instinct as he'll be ok whether he plays basketball or not. Not his fault he's a softy in a 6'10 frame.

                            Maanwhile in Japan, scouts and coaches there believe they can develop Geo. Can't teach height after all. They see something in him. He's a champion. Part of Tab's Blue Eagle and Gilas Cadets program. He'll have a year learning what it takes to be a pro. He'll lift weights do skill work and learn team-centric concepts. He'll also earn huge money in the process. Whether he becomes a key contributor to his team or get sent back to the Philippines, he'll come out a better player which is a win-win for him and the PBA team that will pick him up. Also a win for our NT if something clicks. His confidence after that BLeague stint will be different as well. Sometimes all a player needs is confidence and swagger. As what happened with Kai, he might also get that in Japan.
                            Manifesting: Philippines top 5 in the FIBA World Rankings

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                            • Originally posted by empyreanmaze View Post

                              This is a bad decision imho. We've had so many bigs waived in the B-League without seeing playing time in favor of better foreign forwards and centers. Only Kai has had a break there as a pinoy bigman because of the number of viewers and clout he brought with him. Quite a misstep, Tamayo and Baltazar's developments have been bottlenecked for signing contracts there, no idea why they thought this was a good idea, going to the PBA would've been better
                              After their BLeague stints, Tamayo is KBL bound. Not much improvements in his game but his conditioning is significantly better. His IQ also improved a bit as well. Moving forward in his pro career he can always say he's won on all levels. A UAAP champ and a BLeague champ.

                              Meanwhile Balti, yes very disappointing BLeague stint but what's worse is he breached his KBL contract and listened to Delta Pineda to play in the MPBL. He regressed instead of looking for the next best option. Well, can't blame him because he's a first-time parent and needs to provide for his family, his presence as a father is needed as well, but basketball wise not very smart to go from arguably the best league in Asia to a second-tier pro league in the Phils.
                              Manifesting: Philippines top 5 in the FIBA World Rankings

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                              • Originally posted by sroth3839 View Post

                                That wasn’t a bad roster.

                                walang kwenta lang talaga and preps.
                                Not a bad roster for FIBA Asia Cup. Lee, Bolick, Perez and Blatche is a problem for defenses in Asia.

                                But for Worlds? vs Bogdanovich, Belinelli, Jokic and Mejri? We all saw how that played out.
                                Manifesting: Philippines top 5 in the FIBA World Rankings

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