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  • Since geo chiu, raven cortez, or carino did not turn out to be NT materials. The best bigs Gilas has a realistic chance to getting are hepa and tolentino. Kahit isa lng sa kanila, we can have a more stable frontline for years to come

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    • Originally posted by paliganibossalfrancis View Post

      yeah fck they scouted us well. you see how they bump newsome after the first pass and how they throw 2 guys to Junemar upon catching. Brazil was very "technical" as well in limiting our options. That 2nd half was a defensive masterclass. I think ultimately, that semis game showed we can't have typical Tim Cone short rotations because international basketball will wear your players out. Look how tired JMF and JB looked in the 3rd qtr. We need more options we can go to when JB and Dwight gets cold, and when JMF gets shut down.
      Defending against the Triangle Offense is an open-source application.

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      • Originally posted by Metta View Post

        Winston does have an excellent mid-range game which fits the triangle. If he can raise his defensive intensity, he is someone that can be a candidate for the Newsome role.

        Then guys like Caelum, Bayla, etc are next in line.
        I did wish Newsome would take more shot as he had a good advantage against his defenders. He could shoot over them with his mid range pull ups. He has the biggest advantage among our players. That sometimes I wish TC would do on certain games rather than play straight up Triangle offense. Go early on the mismatches like what we did with JC or Castro

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        • Originally posted by zairex View Post

          I did wish Newsome would take more shot as he had a good advantage against his defenders. He could shoot over them with his mid range pull ups. He has the biggest advantage among our players. That sometimes I wish TC would do on certain games rather than play straight up Triangle offense. Go early on the mismatches like what we did with JC or Castro
          Agree. I think coach Tim should give Newsome some latitude on offense. We understand Newsome main's role in the team is defense, but we can see that he is a threat on offense. As you've mentioned he has that reliable pull-up jumper from mid-range. Newsome is also a good finisher off the break.
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          • Originally posted by deku_midoriya View Post
            Since geo chiu, raven cortez, or carino did not turn out to be NT materials. The best bigs Gilas has a realistic chance to getting are hepa and tolentino. Kahit isa lng sa kanila, we can have a more stable frontline for years to come
            there are still legit pinoy kids like Gagate and Demisana but we don't know if those kids are fit for basketball, they might develop the Kobe Paras disease. Hopefully we're not looking at a dud generation of bigs

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            • In your opinion, besides Abando and maybe Mike Phillips (if he gets that exemption), who do you guys think Gilas should get to improve the team for the next World Cup and the upcoming FIBA Asia Cup.
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              • Originally posted by r1ck View Post
                In your opinion, besides Abando and maybe Mike Phillips (if he gets that exemption), who do you guys think Gilas should get to improve the team for the next World Cup and the upcoming FIBA Asia Cup.
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                • Lets hope for a good showing by dalph panopio in the KBL, this will be his try out for Gilas.

                  After Kai-edu-tamayo, the well of big men suddenly dried up for Gilas. If wala talaga, lets go the fil-for route which started with andy siegle, taulava, penissi, slaughter, edu.. kaso puro guards and wings na ang fil-fors natin ngayon

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                  • Originally posted by deku_midoriya View Post
                    Since geo chiu, raven cortez, or carino did not turn out to be NT materials. The best bigs Gilas has a realistic chance to getting are hepa and tolentino. Kahit isa lng sa kanila, we can have a more stable frontline for years to come
                    I think Geo Chiu still have chance in the future... All he needs is to be good defender.. it's not easy to find 6'10 (?) big man here plus he has international exposure in the past...

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                    • Originally posted by Dotch View Post

                      SMC refused to lend its players back in 2015, where the CTB coached PHL finished second to China. SMC could've lent Fajardo, Japeth, SuperUbo, Arwind, LA to beef up AB, RDO, Ping, Castro, Gabe, TR, Abueva, etc.

                      I think that was the easiest path to the Olympics as we've beaten Iran, Lebanon and Japan with a rag tag team, and AUS and NZ werent part of the FIBA Asia yet. Only China was on our way.

                      Turned out, SMC was also on our way
                      Ironically SMC is still in our way. They are hell bent to prove that a PBA import is better than Kouame, a guy with a decent Fiba record. They also avoid guys who rub them the wrong way. TC is the coach but Chua calls the shots on personnel. Remember when TC said Balti’s camp rejected their offer? It was probably Chuas reply to him. TC got his foot in his mouth when coach Delta announced that an invite never came.

                      TC planning to talk with Heading after Latvia is a good sign. Eventually TC needs to override Chua if he feels its for the better of the team.

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                      • Originally posted by Rds View Post

                        Ironically SMC is still in our way. They are hell bent to prove that a PBA import is better than Kouame, a guy with a decent Fiba record. They also avoid guys who rub them the wrong way. TC is the coach but Chua calls the shots on personnel. Remember when TC said Balti’s camp rejected their offer? It was probably Chuas reply to him. TC got his foot in his mouth when coach Delta announced that an invite never came.

                        TC planning to talk with Heading after Latvia is a good sign. Eventually TC needs to override Chua if he feels its for the better of the team.
                        He market will determine Ange's standing but if he remains in D3 French ball, I dont think he deserves to be the NP for Gilas.

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                        • Originally posted by Sikatrix View Post
                          He market will determine Ange's standing but if he remains in D3 French ball, I dont think he deserves to be the NP for Gilas.
                          Ange does offer roster balance after JB in case AJ's injured. AJ's our only reliable interior defender, and Ange might replace that need if Kai doesn't improve that much on defense (although Kai did defend well against Latvia).

                          We did defend well as a team against Brazil and Latvia, but you never know.

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                          • Originally posted by IPC View Post

                            Ange does offer roster balance after JB in case AJ's injured. AJ's our only reliable interior defender, and Ange might replace that need if Kai doesn't improve that much on defense (although Kai did defend well against Latvia).

                            We did defend well as a team against Brazil and Latvia, but you never know.
                            Yup until we have more options, Ange is someone we need to look closely at.

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                            • Originally posted by Rds View Post
                              Why are we so fixated in exempting Kouame. Thats close to impossible. We dont even give our NPs opportunity to play in the PBA. The question should be is can we continue to deny Kouame the NP slot? JB is aging and can be limited by more athletic teams. Boatwright is just a one dimensional shooter with a wingspan just equal to his height of 6’9.5. Edu is often injured. If we hope to reach higher comp we need a center NP. Kai is good but he wont be as strong as JF nor even Kouame. He is best as a stretch 5 and not a post player. We need Kouame for that.
                              As for Bennie pala, he can shoot, but the concern I have (or had) with him is his defense. Wasn't the best defender in the PBA and in China. The good defense we played against Latvia and Brazil might minimize the defensive concerns a bit, considering that we played with June Mar and Kai for extended stretches.

                              He can fit, but like sir sroth3839 said, he shouldn't play alongside June Mar. Also, we need perimeter defenders like Dwight, Scottie, Newsome, and CJ alongside him so that there will be less load on him when he's involved. We need AJ and Kai alongside Bennie as well.

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                              • Originally posted by Rds View Post

                                TC is the coach but Chua calls the shots on personnel. Remember when TC said Balti’s camp rejected their offer? It was probably Chuas reply to him. TC got his foot in his mouth when coach Delta announced that an invite never came.

                                TC planning to talk with Heading after Latvia is a good sign. Eventually TC needs to override Chua if he feels its for the better of the team.
                                It was probably SBP which never invited Balti, not Chua, because the PLDT group and Converge are corporate rivals

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