Philippines Senior National Team Thread Vol. V

[Giannis34GOD]

Heading is not a bad defender. He may not be a stopper but he is probably a better defender than say Oftana and has better laterals than Pogoy. For a PH knockdown shooter he is actually a decent defender. PH knockdown shooters, with the exception of Super Ubo Lassiter, are typically bad defenders. Guys like Chan and David come to mind.Heading is probably a better ball handler than Scottie. He took up the PG duties in the 4th in Dubai when their guard import was injured. The only hole in his game actually is his free throw shooting. For a knockdown shooter and for a guard he doesn't have a hight FT conversion.

But CTC doesn’t like him… if you see his teams even before, he doesn’t pick or rely on a player that just shoot threes… even his Ginebra team doesn’t have real shooters but still able to compete… CTC always pick versatile players that can play multiple positions.. the reason why Oftana is always on Cone’s wish list… same as Malonzo, Tamayo, Quiambao or even Amos… tall wing/forward players that can switch…

[IPC]

Oftana and Perez are just good team defenders.. but not good 1 on 1 defenders such as Newsome or Edu… Both are key defenders in the semis match vs China last Asian games… I will roll a the dice with them even they are just good only for team defense, not individually…

As for Oftana's 1-on-1 defense, I think that is a crucial part of his position (the 3). I hope he gets his defense back, because he has regressed on that end with TNT.

Team defense, he was good, agreed, but again, if we want a full-time SF, better if he can defend man-to-man as well. Until then, Oftana's better off the bench, or with one of Dwight or Newsome beside him.

[IPC]

But CTC doesn’t like him… if you see his teams even before, he doesn’t pick or rely on a player that just shoot threes… even his Ginebra team doesn’t have real shooters but still able to compete… CTC always pick versatile players that can play multiple positions.. the reason why Oftana is always on Cone’s wish list… same as Malonzo, Tamayo, Quiambao or even Amos… tall wing/forward players that can switch…

Mason's a defensive liability as of now, let's hope Tab can do something about that. Carl can defend sometimes on switches, but he can get overaggressive at times. Quiambao has good instincts in the team concept, but can get blown by as well. Malonzo's more of a team defender as well.

As for forward/wing players who can switch, the only ones who fit that bill so far are Malonzo and Will Navarro, who's our best wing defender in both man and team defense (and not in the pool). I hope Carl, Quiambao, and Mason can develop to be at least competent switch defenders.

[thatweirdguy]

Mason's a defensive liability as of now, let's hope Tab can do something about that. Carl can defend sometimes on switches, but he can get overaggressive at times. Quiambao has good instincts in the team concept, but can get blown by as well. Malonzo's more of a team defender as well.

As for forward/wing players who can switch, the only ones who fit that bill so far are Malonzo and Will Navarro, who's our best wing defender in both man and team defense (and not in the pool). I hope Carl, Quiambao, and Mason can develop to be at least competent switch defenders.

Why isn't Navarro in the pool. He's a good defender and can do a bit of everything except shoot.

LA isn't that big and was a streaky shooter but somehow Cone was able to make it work. If he really wants them he could easily incorporate some of our current PGs in his system

[Rds]

Why isn't Navarro in the pool. He's a good defender and can do a bit of everything except shoot.

LA isn't that big and was a streaky shooter but somehow Cone was able to make it work. If he really wants them he could easily incorporate some of our current PGs in his system

LA even in his prime was not good in Fiba. He had a good Jones cup but Fiba no. I have PTSD of him in Fiba. He would drive but get stuck in the paint with no where to go. He could not shoot the 3 because he was short and and not a deep 3 shooter like Alapag or a high leaper like Castro. Worse his height was abused on defense. Opponents would drive and kick out to his man with the confidence he could not reach the ball. Korea was one example of this. He was abused by their guards.

[Metta]

I should watch more Koon and Briones. Policarpio is interesting, in the filoil he’s showing some playmaking, athleticism. Can’t ignore his wingspan\length but his perimeter defense is bad same with shooting from 3

For Koon, you can watch games from their last championship run. He was tasked to guard shifty smalls like Jerom Lastimosa and actually neutralized him. I think playing with a broken foot last year took away his momentum.

Briones hasn't really had the opportunities to showcase his abilities, but he was a natural wing (and even guard) in high school.

Poli is a typical tall homegrown that only got reps guarding the perimeter in college. His improvement will depend on his work ethic.

[zairex]

LA even in his prime was not good in Fiba. He had a good Jones cup but Fiba no. I have PTSD of him in Fiba. He would drive but get stuck in the paint with no where to go. He could not shoot the 3 because he was short and and not a deep 3 shooter like Alapag or a high leaper like Castro. Worse his height was abused on defense. Opponents would drive and kick out to his man with the confidence he could not reach the ball. Korea was one example of this. He was abused by their guards.

LA was definitely small but he really played well and even top-scored for local with 18 points against Puerto Rico. Defended very well against tall guards, especially with Croatia, Senegal and PR. Lafayette only had 4 points on us and he and Uric was only 2 and 4 in eff

[IPC]

Why isn't Navarro in the pool. He's a good defender and can do a bit of everything except shoot.

LA isn't that big and was a streaky shooter but somehow Cone was able to make it work. If he really wants them he could easily incorporate some of our current PGs in his system

LA even in his prime was not good in Fiba. He had a good Jones cup but Fiba no. I have PTSD of him in Fiba. He would drive but get stuck in the paint with no where to go. He could not shoot the 3 because he was short and and not a deep 3 shooter like Alapag or a high leaper like Castro. Worse his height was abused on defense. Opponents would drive and kick out to his man with the confidence he could not reach the ball. Korea was one example of this. He was abused by their guards.

LA was definitely small but he really played well and even top-scored for local with 18 points against Puerto Rico. Defended very well against tall guards, especially with Croatia, Senegal and PR. Lafayette only had 4 points on us and he and Uric was only 2 and 4 in eff

Among Jimmy, Castro, and LA, LA was our best defender. Small and lacks length, but he fights on defense.

[TheRodster21]

For Koon, you can watch games from their last championship run. He was tasked to guard shifty smalls like Jerom Lastimosa and actually neutralized him. I think playing with a broken foot last year took away his momentum.

Briones hasn't really had the opportunities to showcase his abilities, but he was a natural wing (and even guard) in high school.

Poli is a typical tall homegrown that only got reps guarding the perimeter in college. His improvement will depend on his work ethic.

Briones looked nice against FEU at least offensively but haven’t seen much of his defense. I think for the national team, more 3 and D guys are needed especially for the perimeter positions.

[Rds]

For Koon, you can watch games from their last championship run. He was tasked to guard shifty smalls like Jerom Lastimosa and actually neutralized him. I think playing with a broken foot last year took away his momentum.

Briones hasn't really had the opportunities to showcase his abilities, but he was a natural wing (and even guard) in high school.

Poli is a typical tall homegrown that only got reps guarding the perimeter in college. His improvement will depend on his work ethic.

It helps that Briones’s dad was one of the homegrowns with excellent handles during his day. Did he grow up abroad?

[IPC]

It helps that Briones’s dad was one of the homegrowns with excellent handles during his day. Did he grow up abroad?

Chicco grew up here. I think from Ateneo de Cebu before going to the States.

[Rds]

Chicco grew up here. I think from Ateneo de Cebu before going to the States.

Credit to his dad and his school then. The US experience probably cemented that he would be a perimeter player. Perimeter defense is lacking in our tall SF hopefuls. It is only Navarro now.

[IPC]

Credit to his dad and his school then. The US experience probably cemented that he would be a perimeter player. Perimeter defense is lacking in our tall SF hopefuls. It is only Navarro now.

Like sir Metta said, Belmonte and Lazaro have potential to be tall SF's that can guard the perimeter. I think Torculas can too. Oftana was once a good defender in the August window, and Malonzo has the tools, so has Lopez and Policarpio. Thing is, Lopez and Oftana get blown by on defense these days, and from what I read here from sir TheRodster21, Policarpio has trouble on perimeter defense too.

If our big-minute SF can't be a star in FIBA, focus on 3&D, or at least a good man-to-man defender at that spot.

[IPC]

I remember how Fadi El-Khatib toyed with the PBA superstars. Literally, no one could guard him. He was just getting point after point from the free throw line since the PBA idiots don't know how to properly defend.

The starting SF in the 2017 Asia Cup game was Abueva. Then Pogoy guarded him. And the defensive rotation was bad, as was the case almost the entire tournament (especially against SoKor).

Chot got really lost on defense until Cone became his assistant in Gilas.

[IPC]

Wtf?, though i am not surprised
https://tiebreakertimes.com.ph/tbt/p...rograms/304409

The PBA is to blame for all this stupidity. The 3x3 scene was doing well with Chooks but the PBA actively sabotaged Chooks efforts even taking over representation when it was Chooks that worked to get the FIBA points. The PBA should go to hell.

Now all those points will go to waste and the program is back to the stone age.

Great! And probably if another stakeholder takes over the pba will just reactivate the 3x3 league out of spite

Self-preservation over progress.

Another clear example of how the main goal is all about maintaining the monopoly. It's never about international glory if you can't take credit for it.

Not a new thing. Hijacked the 5x5 team too in Feb 2022.

There were some invaluable additions like Newsome and JB, the return of June Mar and Japeth as reserve bigs, and Scottie's good POA defense, and Malonzo being a potential 3&D wing, but seems like they want the credit but barely adjust, except for the WC, windows, and Asiad last year.