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  • Scottie doesnt look 100% in the PBA right now. His shooting is really off. I hope he gets better because I dont know how he can contribute in Fiba given his level now.

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    • Originally posted by IPC View Post
      Fair enough. Most B.League imports are 4's and 5's, though, something which the Japanese locals have in short supply, so there's a need to overplay. There are some guards, though. Still, 31 minutes in other leagues is equivalent to only what, 38 minutes in the PBA? Not many equivalent to the 40+ minutes we play some imports. The thing is, B.League imports have someone to sub for them in that position. Plus, load is shared among the imports, kasi nga, multiple imports.

      As for KBL, they, have numerous fours, which is why the 1 import on the floor rule is also good for their locals. Kim Jong-kyu, Ha Yungi, and Lee Won-seok are the centers I know of, but they can switch to 4.
      Originally posted by zairex View Post
      That could be an issue for Japan as they have few players they can use to play 5 and 4 spot. Unlike us we can play JC as we have 5 and 4. I mean Japan did great in their NT stint last year, I just don't know going forward if they can sustain it with limited choices on 4 and 5 spot. That why there is an advantage for us that we have only one import as other players can be used and similar situation as for CBA and KBL. And having a smaller import also help us on how to defend Small guards and forwards internationally
      Watanabe, Hachimura, and Kawashima are their fours, but yeah, that's it.​ Nothing at 5 except for the Takeuchi brothers (who are old as hell).

      As for us, we do have the 5's, but June Mar and Japeth are old, Kai's not there yet on defense, and AJ's injury-prone. As for 4, we're better-equipped. Japeth, AJ, Carl, Quiambao, and Baltazar. Maybe Carino in the future, as his laterals and help defense are good, just needs to bulk up. We still might need an NP that can play 4/5 on defense, but yeah, we could have JB or JC, provided that AJ's healthy and Kai's there.

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      • Originally posted by Rds View Post
        Scottie doesnt look 100% in the PBA right now. His shooting is really off. I hope he gets better because I dont know how he can contribute in Fiba given his level now.
        His best asset is his defense and hustle.

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        • Originally posted by IPC View Post

          His best asset is his defense and hustle.
          IMO he's better utilized off the bench than starting. Problem is we don't or won't put anyone in the pool that's better than him.

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          • Originally posted by IPC View Post



            Watanabe, Hachimura, and Kawashima are their fours, but yeah, that's it.​ Nothing at 5 except for the Takeuchi brothers (who are old as hell).

            As for us, we do have the 5's, but June Mar and Japeth are old, Kai's not there yet on defense, and AJ's injury-prone. As for 4, we're better-equipped. Japeth, AJ, Carl, Quiambao, and Baltazar. Maybe Carino in the future, as his laterals and help defense are good, just needs to bulk up. We still might need an NP that can play 4/5 on defense, but yeah, we could have JB or JC, provided that AJ's healthy and Kai's there.
            I wonder how is 6-foot-10 center Avi Schafer right now? Is he still in the B-league? In his stint with the Japanese national team some years ago, he was more of just a mere role player. He's no Joji or Kensuke Takeuchi. Another center is 6-foot-10 Hugh Watanabe , but Watanabe is registering paltry stats at Ryuku Golden Kings in the B-league. One thing I notice in the B-league is that there seems to be some scarcity of quality players in the 6-foot-6/6-foot-7 height range. At least sa PBA & in Phi basketball in general, may makikita naman tayo na masasabi nating good quality 6-foot-6/6-foot-7 players maski papano.
            "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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            • Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post
              I wonder how is 6-foot-10 center Avi Schafer right now? Is he still in the B-league? In his stint with the Japanese national team some years ago, he was more of just a mere role player. He's no Joji or Kensuke Takeuchi. Another center is 6-foot-10 Hugh Watanabe , but Watanabe is registering paltry stats at Ryuku Golden Kings in the B-league. One thing I notice in the B-league is that there seems to be some scarcity of quality players in the 6-foot-6/6-foot-7 height range. At least sa PBA & in Phi basketball in general, may makikita naman tayo na masasabi nating good quality 6-foot-6/6-foot-7 players maski papano.
              I forgot about Schafer, sorry. He hasn't exactly been used much in the B.League.

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              • Originally posted by thatweirdguy View Post
                IMO he's better utilized off the bench than starting. Problem is we don't or won't put anyone in the pool that's better than him.
                Cone's rationale in his interview with Pamintuan is that it's best to have good defenders.

                Thing is, though, Scottie, Newsome, Dwight, AJ, and JB are the only good defenders in the pool. The rest are willing but, Carl, Quiambao, and Kai have work to do on defense (although Cone said that he likes the energy Carl and Quiambao bring on defense), CJ gets blown by and is sometimes late on rotations, Oftana gets blown by, Malonzo is up-and-down on that end.

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                • Originally posted by IPC View Post



                  Watanabe, Hachimura, and Kawashima are their fours, but yeah, that's it.​ Nothing at 5 except for the Takeuchi brothers (who are old as hell).

                  As for us, we do have the 5's, but June Mar and Japeth are old, Kai's not there yet on defense, and AJ's injury-prone. As for 4, we're better-equipped. Japeth, AJ, Carl, Quiambao, and Baltazar. Maybe Carino in the future, as his laterals and help defense are good, just needs to bulk up. We still might need an NP that can play 4/5 on defense, but yeah, we could have JB or JC, provided that AJ's healthy and Kai's there.
                  I dont think KQ is big enough to be a PF internationally at 6’5.

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                  • Originally posted by Rds View Post

                    I dont think KQ is big enough to be a PF internationally at 6’5.
                    he'd be exploited internationally

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                    • Originally posted by Rds View Post
                      I dont think KQ is big enough to be a PF internationally at 6’5.
                      Originally posted by xenoloxy View Post
                      he'd be exploited internationally
                      He will have to move to the 3, then. At best, he's a situational player. He has good length and a motor, though.​

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                      • Originally posted by IPC View Post

                        Cone's rationale in his interview with Pamintuan is that it's best to have good defenders.

                        Thing is, though, Scottie, Newsome, Dwight, AJ, and JB are the only good defenders in the pool. The rest are willing but, Carl, Quiambao, and Kai have work to do on defense (although Cone said that he likes the energy Carl and Quiambao bring on defense), CJ gets blown by and is sometimes late on rotations, Oftana gets blown by, Malonzo is up-and-down on that end.
                        The reason why Heading is not on the pool… Cone doesn’t buy to those one dimensional players.. we will sacrifice more on defensive end than his shooting… not even RJ and SJ because they are too small…

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                        • Originally posted by Giannis34GOD View Post
                          The reason why Heading is not on the pool… Cone doesn’t buy to those one dimensional players.. we will sacrifice more on defensive end than his shooting… not even RJ and SJ because they are too small…
                          Heading can defend, though. And as for sacrificing defense, our next NP is Bennie Boatwright, who really needs help defensively from his teammates and from his scheme. Plus, I already said (in the very post you're replying to) that Oftana and CJ (in addition to sometimes being lost on rotations) can get blown by, although they make efforts to defend.

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                          • Originally posted by Giannis34GOD View Post

                            The reason why Heading is not on the pool… Cone doesn’t buy to those one dimensional players.. we will sacrifice more on defensive end than his shooting… not even RJ and SJ because they are too small…
                            Heading is not a bad defender. He may not be a stopper but he is probably a better defender than say Oftana and has better laterals than Pogoy. For a PH knockdown shooter he is actually a decent defender. PH knockdown shooters, with the exception of Super Ubo Lassiter, are typically bad defenders. Guys like Chan and David come to mind.Heading is probably a better ball handler than Scottie. He took up the PG duties in the 4th in Dubai when their guard import was injured. The only hole in his game actually is his free throw shooting. For a knockdown shooter and for a guard he doesn't have a hight FT conversion.

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                            • Originally posted by IPC View Post

                              Heading can defend, though. And as for sacrificing defense, our next NP is Bennie Boatwright, who really needs help defensively from his teammates and from his scheme. Plus, I already said (in the very post you're replying to) that Oftana and CJ (in addition to sometimes being lost on rotations) can get blown by, although they make efforts to defend.
                              Oftana and Perez are just good team defenders.. but not good 1 on 1 defenders such as Newsome or Edu… Both are key defenders in the semis match vs China last Asian games… I will roll a the dice with them even they are just good only for team defense, not individually…

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                              • Originally posted by Giannis34GOD View Post
                                Oftana and Perez are just good team defenders.. but not good 1 on 1 defenders such as Newsome or Edu… Both are key defenders in the semis match vs China last Asian games… I will roll a the dice with them even they are just good only for team defense, not individually…
                                I said CJ gets lost on rotations, which are an essential part of team defense.

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