Philippines Senior National Team Thread Vol. V

[ARMIR]

Let's see after JB retires, which will be a couple years from now at the latest.

There's no guarantee that he would ever play at all if the current coach thinks he doesn't fit in his schemes and he will be there for more than 2 years,meanwhile he could be playing at a more higher FIBA games if he's active representing a country.CTC is hell bent on rather calling the fast aging Aguilar or Fajardo for the next 2 years rather than Ange or he would just not have anyone if Kai doesn't show up he can always play undersize SFs at center with a tweak of his offense here and there.

[IPC]

Offense can improve… his shooting mechanics is OK… just need more practice in their off season grind…

That's true. Offense is easier to develop and improve than defense. Offense takes skill, which can be practiced.

Besides, Carino has to work on making wide-open threes and scoring in traffic, which can be developed with practice. Hope he doesn't sacrifice his speed when gaining strength too.

[Metta]

That's true. Offense is easier to develop and improve than defense. Offense takes skill, which can be practiced.

That's a loaded statement. There's so many factors that go into this that the best way to put it is...it depends..

For the most part, athleticism and strength is a big advantage in defense. Those things paired with an aggressive attitude is a good recipe for defense. That's why you can have karpinteros who can't shoot and dribble (which means they were never taught) but be like gloves on defense. So if you're athletic, aggressive (and jackpot if you're long) defense is easy. Guys who barely play basketball but plays another sport like soccer can immediately play good defense.

Meanwhile, it's very difficult to be excellent in skills like dribbling, middy game, off-hand, etc unless you've trained on it early. Yes it can be easy to be adept at these skills...for barangay-level. But high-level class in these skills takes thousands of hours of work.

[BJ_Reloaded]

What is the rules of floorball? Is that related to field hockey?

exactly, it is almost related to field hockey minus the Nag,

it is the same as the Ice Hockey minus the ice and ice blades.

the purpose is to make exponential amount of goals to the opposing side in a specific period of time.

lot's of action back and forth that is why many pinoys esp. those in the Nordic countries are very much unto it.

one of the most popular sports on that part...a national pastime.

[BJ_Reloaded]

That's a loaded statement. There's so many factors that go into this that the best way to put it is...it depends..

For the most part, athleticism and strength is a big advantage in defense. Those things paired with an aggressive attitude is a good recipe for defense. That's why you can have karpinteros who can't shoot and dribble (which means they were never taught) but be like gloves on defense. So if you're athletic, aggressive (and jackpot if you're long) defense is easy. Guys who barely play basketball but plays another sport like soccer can immediately play good defense.

Meanwhile, it's very difficult to be excellent in skills like dribbling, middy game, off-hand, etc unless you've trained on it early. Yes it can be easy to be adept at these skills...for barangay-level. But high-level class in these skills takes thousands of hours of work.

Sir Mets,

that is why grassroots development are mandatory to those who wants to excel on every discipline they preferred

starting in early years and make sure it's like a playground thing until such time it gradually turn into seriousness without pushing the lad too much and make him/her feel comfortable and natural to the grind because the thing is, it's much easier to teach the X's and O's if the participants are happy on what he/she is doing.

it's like the concept of going to school wherein aside from you want to learn something, you've been with your pals and most of all you want to see your crush and make her impress

"kahit walang baon na pera basta busog, may butas ang sapatos due to wear and tear, theirs a whole in the armpit part of the uniform and literally standing in the school's main gate to officially open to make sure your one of the early birds before the actual flag ceremony, rain or shine, in good health or not feeling well because education is life.

same concept in Palakasan..Sports is Life.

that's the main key to mold an elite who literally comes from dirty muddy grounds.

[IPC]

That's a loaded statement. There's so many factors that go into this that the best way to put it is...it depends..

For the most part, athleticism and strength is a big advantage in defense. Those things paired with an aggressive attitude is a good recipe for defense. That's why you can have karpinteros who can't shoot and dribble (which means they were never taught) but be like gloves on defense. So if you're athletic, aggressive (and jackpot if you're long) defense is easy. Guys who barely play basketball but plays another sport like soccer can immediately play good defense.

Meanwhile, it's very difficult to be excellent in skills like dribbling, middy game, off-hand, etc unless you've trained on it early. Yes it can be easy to be adept at these skills...for barangay-level. But high-level class in these skills takes thousands of hours of work.

I've seen more defensive players become stars (Jimmy, Kawhi) or at least improved some aspects of their offense than offense-only stars becoming good defenders, that's why I made that statement.

[Giannis34GOD]

exactly, it is almost related to field hockey minus the Nag,

it is the same as the Ice Hockey minus the ice and ice blades.

the purpose is to make exponential amount of goals to the opposing side in a specific period of time.

lot's of action back and forth that is why many pinoys esp. those in the Nordic countries are very much unto it.

one of the most popular sports on that part...a national pastime.

I see… another latest, FIFA announced that Philippines will host FIFA womens Futsal World Cup next year… it seems the good hosting of Philippines last year’s FIBA World Cup seems have positive feedback in the world of sports… from Volleyball, Floorball and now Futsal..

https://www.facebook.com/share/EDU1D6optJC5zBfN/?mibextid=WC7FNe

[Metta]

I've seen more defensive players become stars (Jimmy, Kawhi) or at least improved some aspects of their offense than offense-only stars becoming good defenders, that's why I made that statement.

On the other side of that coin...you got guys like Mike Philipps (quite common in the US) who would be in D1 if he got better on offense.

So like I said, it depends.

[Metta]

Sir Mets,

that is why grassroots development are mandatory to those who wants to excel on every discipline they preferred

starting in early years and make sure it's like a playground thing until such time it gradually turn into seriousness without pushing the lad too much and make him/her feel comfortable and natural to the grind because the thing is, it's much easier to teach the X's and O's if the participants are happy on what he/she is doing.

it's like the concept of going to school wherein aside from you want to learn something, you've been with your pals and most of all you want to see your crush and make her impress

"kahit walang baon na pera basta busog, may butas ang sapatos due to wear and tear, theirs a whole in the armpit part of the uniform and literally standing in the school's main gate to officially open to make sure your one of the early birds before the actual flag ceremony, rain or shine, in good health or not feeling well because education is life.

same concept in Palakasan..Sports is Life.

that's the main key to mold an elite who literally comes from dirty muddy grounds.

There's a whole book "Outliers" about the 10,000-hour rule. If you've been around/followed athletes who reached high levels starting from youth, you would see how much it makes sense.

It's partly why I think our bigs usually develop/mature very late. All too often, our bigs (6'7+) who grow up under the radar (usually provinces, or non-sports families) only get discovered when they already had their growth spurt, which is late in their teens. By the time they get discovered and start playing basketball, it takes another 10+ years to get that 10,000-hour rule. So they only really start to reach their potential towards their late 20s.

Now for prodigies like Gemao, he started probably around 7 and reached that 10,000 milestone at around 17. This is also the timeline for majority of NBA/D1 players.

[BJ_Reloaded]

There's a whole book "Outliers" about the 10,000-hour rule. If you've been around/followed athletes who reached high levels starting from youth, you would see how much it makes sense.

It's partly why I think our bigs usually develop/mature very late. All too often, our bigs (6'7+) who grow up under the radar (usually provinces, or non-sports families) only get discovered when they already had their growth spurt, which is late in their teens. By the time they get discovered and start playing basketball, it takes another 10+ years to get that 10,000-hour rule. So they only really start to reach their potential towards their late 20s.

Now for prodigies like Gemao, he started probably around 7 and reached that 10,000 milestone at around 17. This is also the timeline for majority of NBA/D1 players.

Yes Sir Mets, I've heard that book several years ago about that 10,000 hr rule but I haven't seen the physical book itself.."Parang dumaan lang po sa pandinig ko, hindi tumatak".

anyway, as I said grassroot development is very important to somehow establish the critical CORE Strength.

mid childhood years from 6 to 12 years old is very much perfect to start with, just introduce the discipline like a typical childhood play "laro laro lang". tawanan lang light moments/comedy time.

until they reach that adolescent stage from 13 to 18 yrs. old wherein the x's and o's now enters.

elite athlete like Caloy started when he is in the mid childhood years in their typical neighborhood in Leveriza "pa kenkoy kenkoy lang" according to those kapit-bahays.

as for EJ, I think he was only introduce to the discipline during the tailend of his mid childhood years going to his adolescent years that is why he is only reaping the result now in his mid 20's.

as for Mondo and MJ I think they were also introduce their respective discipline during their mid childhood years.

I totally agree, that family has a big part in the beginning esp to those who already in the sports discipline compared to those typical Juan dela Cruz.

therefore, I think our Physical Education subject in the Elem level should have an equal breath in the same level as basic Arithmetic,English and Social Studies.

[BJ_Reloaded]

I see… another latest, FIFA announced that Philippines will host FIFA womens Futsal World Cup next year… it seems the good hosting of Philippines last year’s FIBA World Cup seems have positive feedback in the world of sports… from Volleyball, Floorball and now Futsal..

https://www.facebook.com/share/EDU1D...ibextid=WC7FNe

even though our Womens Futsal team are not yet on the same breath as compared to our outdoor 11-a side team

I think being an indoor sports may somehow get some attention in the mainstream because we Filipinos loves indoor and we hate going outside "baka lalo mangitim and sayang ang whitening lotion".

little did we know that theirs a lot of pinoy playing the sports because it's more of a cross-training thing esp during rainy season and extreme summer heat.

now that we are the one hosting the first ever World Cup, I won't be surprise if it became one of rising sports discipline in the country moving forward

as I said pinoy loves indoor.

I think THA is the highest ranked team here in Asia and PHL was one of the bottom teams.

[zairex]

There's a whole book "Outliers" about the 10,000-hour rule. If you've been around/followed athletes who reached high levels starting from youth, you would see how much it makes sense.

It's partly why I think our bigs usually develop/mature very late. All too often, our bigs (6'7+) who grow up under the radar (usually provinces, or non-sports families) only get discovered when they already had their growth spurt, which is late in their teens. By the time they get discovered and start playing basketball, it takes another 10+ years to get that 10,000-hour rule. So they only really start to reach their potential towards their late 20s.

Now for prodigies like Gemao, he started probably around 7 and reached that 10,000 milestone at around 17. This is also the timeline for majority of NBA/D1 players.

That could be true with Americans but not always with Pinoys. Genetics plays a role also in development. See Kai, had probably the best training at a young age than other Pinoys. But still struggles with Physicality and energy unlike RDO

[Rds]

That could be true with Americans but not always with Pinoys. Genetics plays a role also in development. See Kai, had probably the best training at a young age than other Pinoys. But still struggles with Physicality and energy unlike RDO

I think this is more about Kai. Although we have no other pure Asian Pinoy 7 footers our other big guys dont have the same stamina issue. JF and Japeth dont have that problem.

I think either Kai has an anatomical issue preventing him from running smoothly or maybe he lacked field training growing up. In EU even big guys like Jokic grew up playing football. Somehow I dont think Kai trained or played in the field growing up.

[Giannis34GOD]

even though our Womens Futsal team are not yet on the same breath as compared to our outdoor 11-a side team

I think being an indoor sports may somehow get some attention in the mainstream because we Filipinos loves indoor and we hate going outside "baka lalo mangitim and sayang ang whitening lotion".

little did we know that theirs a lot of pinoy playing the sports because it's more of a cross-training thing esp during rainy season and extreme summer heat.

now that we are the one hosting the first ever World Cup, I won't be surprise if it became one of rising sports discipline in the country moving forward

as I said pinoy loves indoor.

I think THA is the highest ranked team here in Asia and PHL was one of the bottom teams.

Aside from being Indoor, Futsal just requires small field, Unlike his outdoor counterpart football.. Our space here are too small and people can't find any large fields / space to play... So PFF introducing Futsal is a good move... maybe some members of Filipinas who played in the FIFAWWC can participate here....

[zairex]

I think this is more about Kai. Although we have no other pure Asian Pinoy 7 footers our other big guys dont have the same stamina issue. JF and Japeth dont have that problem.

I think either Kai has an anatomical issue preventing him from running smoothly or maybe he lacked field training growing up. In EU even big guys like Jokic grew up playing football. Somehow I dont think Kai trained or played in the field growing up.

JF is outlier for being tall, heft and with good coordination but Japeth early years he was easily push around by even 6'6 center like Dennis Espino. That's why I see Kai will develop his strength later on like Japeth.

It's rare to see a Pinoy player like JF with only lack of speed as the only weakness