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Nice to see Will Navarro back playing after an ACL injury that sidelined him for quite some time. He scored 12 pts & 13 rebs last night. Navarro is another Gilas prospect small forward with impressive defensive & rebounding skills. I think it was coach Tab Baldwin who once commended Navarro for his rebounding skill."A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV
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Originally posted by Metta View Post
This is not a secret, most of the greats do this. Kobe said he attributes his 81-point game to the offseason work he did prior, mainly on his conditioning. Guys like Kawhi developed shooting in the offseason, Giannis worked on his body and athleticism, Steph strengthened his lower body to fix his ankle problems, and the list goes on. And a lot of these type of guys are champions, because they get rid of their weaknesses.
This is especially the youth hoops culture in Europe...they will practice/train for the whole week and only have one game in the weekend. A reason why Euros are so skilled.
Btw, you never lose skills by playing full 5x5 only for 2 or 3 days, with the other days used for mixed light and heavy conditioning as well as shooting and quickness/ explosiveness drills. Strong muscles and bones factually steady and improve shooting and rebounding percentages over many years.Last edited by ccharmed; 03-02-2024, 07:13 AM.
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Originally posted by Metta View Post
This is not a secret, most of the greats do this. Kobe said he attributes his 81-point game to the offseason work he did prior, mainly on his conditioning. Guys like Kawhi developed shooting in the offseason, Giannis worked on his body and athleticism, Steph strengthened his lower body to fix his ankle problems, and the list goes on. And a lot of these type of guys are champions, because they get rid of their weaknesses.
This is especially the youth hoops culture in Europe...they will practice/train for the whole week and only have one game in the weekend. A reason why Euros are so skilled.Samahan ng mga Bopol ng Pilipinas
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Originally posted by bluenote49 View Post
Treating the remaining 4 months before OQT as offseason training is something I want Carl to do. Use the JBL money to train in the US. I think he has a connection with the GSW Pinoy skill trainer am I right? Hire the guy and see if he can help with a place to stay in San Francisco.
He worked with that trainer before and he helped him alot to be a little more quicker and better ball handling,going to a NBA Summer Camp should be a must even if isn't gonna be pick for the Summer League,the amount of basketball knowledge he would pick up will be a plus for his career.
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Originally posted by ARMIR View Post
He worked with that trainer before and he helped him alot to be a little more quicker and better ball handling,going to a NBA Summer Camp should be a must even if isn't gonna be pick for the Summer League,the amount of basketball knowledge he would pick up will be a plus for his career.Samahan ng mga Bopol ng Pilipinas
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Originally posted by bluenote49 View Post
Yup and if the dream is to continue playing abroad, he needs to put in more effort to improve not just his basketball skills but also his physical fitness. If he can't or doesn't want to, don't expect playing time in any foreign league above PH level, and just be content playing in PBA or MBPL. That's the same reality KQ and other homegrown hybrid 3/4 will face once they decide to play abroad.
I agree with hiring the best trainer possible, it's even tax deductible. If he gets a chance to train alongside nba guys, then even better. What casuals don't realize is if someone gets the chance to train with the most elite guys, that is a great learning opportunity. You learn the "secrets of the trade," of what it takes to get to their level.
Now contrast that to some guy's idea of him playing in the MPBL. What he'll absorb there are the habits, mindset and work ethic of guys who can't even make the PBA.
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Originally posted by Metta View Post
Get to the level of someone like Thirdy in terms of fitness.
The PBA needs to fit three conferences in eight months to give players off season training.
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Originally posted by bluenote49 View Post
How I wish it is common for our basketball athletes to have 3rdy's physique. Unang tingin palang alam mo na atleta ehh. Except for a few particularly the half breeds, the only ones in PBA who I think put in the work on their physical fitness are Arana & Shaun Ildefonso.
The PBA needs to fit three conferences in eight months to give players off season training.
just look at paul lee’s conditioning
but yeah with a year long season, there is no room for conditioning, just use the season to get fit
atleast the new gen players are fit, hope they dint get the willie miller- Beau Belga habits
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Originally posted by Metta View Post
For Tamayo, working on his body/athleticism this next few months will go a long way. And the most efficient way to do it is during opportunities like these where he has a few months to do it. Get to the level of someone like Thirdy in terms of fitness.
I agree with hiring the best trainer possible, it's even tax deductible. If he gets a chance to train alongside nba guys, then even better. What casuals don't realize is if someone gets the chance to train with the most elite guys, that is a great learning opportunity. You learn the "secrets of the trade," of what it takes to get to their level.
Now contrast that to some guy's idea of him playing in the MPBL. What he'll absorb there are the habits, mindset and work ethic of guys who can't even make the PBA.
Athletics wise,other than Balti probably better than any Gilas or PBA player big man that's not a center,that is local trained.In the Bleagues we can see that he can keep up with the World Imports and of course his big accomplishment was he not only slow down but almost shot down the Korean Davidson player who's probably the most athletic big man shooter of Korea.Attending camps in the US will elevate his skills further and it will keep him in basketball shape.They usually starts after the NCAA championship so probably around April or May,during baseball spring training,that's when there's not much basketball in the US.
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Originally posted by IPC View PostWatching Justin Arana, he's agile on offense, but the defense could use some help. I did see him blitz a pick and roll, but rim protection and defending when switched are real points of concern.
If he's going to be a useful piece for Gilas, he needs to improve both those areas. At 6'7" in shoes, playing exclusively as a center won't cut it.
At 6-foot-7, Arana should play as a 4 at Gilas. Problem is he's not your typical modern-day "four". He's no RDO or a Carl Tamayo or a Justine Baltazar, especially on offense.
I think his Converge teammate Bryan Santos, though only 6-5 or 6-6, has better potential getting a Gilas call up. Santos I think is a legit stretch-four."A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV
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Originally posted by JAMSKIE View PostNice to see Will Navarro back playing after an ACL injury that sidelined him for quite some time. He scored 12 pts & 13 rebs last night. Navarro is another Gilas prospect small forward with impressive defensive & rebounding skills. I think it was coach Tab Baldwin who once commended Navarro for his rebounding skill.
He can be like a Joe Devance in Cone's Gilas team.
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Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post
At 6-foot-7, Arana should play as a 4 at Gilas. Problem is he's not your typical modern-day "four". He's no RDO or a Carl Tamayo or a Justine Baltazar, especially on offense.
I think his Converge teammate Bryan Santos, though only 6-5 or 6-6, has better potential getting a Gilas call up. Santos I think is a legit stretch-four.
I totally agree.
that lad has potential for as long as he keeps on grinding, that 3 Pts. shot is almost or always a butter.
I hope Jeo Ambohot would not be discourage and continue the same thing despite it's not falling compared to the previous conferences.
our Gilas needs a Michael Porter Jr. type of a player moving forward.
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