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  • Kouame is more than good enough for the nt at the asian level championships. He also has ready np papers. He is both a decent center and power forward partner, but not a stand-alone shot-creator great.

    What is absent factually are explosive take-charge local guys, of which brownlee and clarkson are the archetypes or basic models.

    At the center position, kai can be that explosive attacker when hostile interior or zone defense is tough. He has the size, talent and aggressiveness for this, but still lacks the serious muscles to reliably power his way through. He definitely can go the towns or embid route, if he remains immersed in at least a tough aussie or japanese league.

    At the scoring guard position, we have abando, who has enough athleticism and talent to be at least a very reliable poor man's michael jordan. Then you have nba talents like clarkson and green to make the combo guard positions very interesting for building that essential confidence in winning chances.

    And then, there are the huge fatal gaps in forward positions. No tatum, and no doncic wannabes. The aging brownlee is the only talent here. So, if clarkson or green are not available, you need a scoring forward beast np at the very least.

    The pinoy nt needs at least 3 players in 3 different positions who can go through world-class defenses. Forwards like tamayo, oftana or edu are decent role players. But to go beyond asian credentials, you need a forward with indecent preternatural abilities.
    Last edited by ccharmed; 02-27-2024, 01:38 AM.

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    • Is Clarkson already as good as retired for Gilas?

      For the direction and system that CTC is developing, a once-and-a-while short-term addition like JC does not fit. Not to mention, it takes away JB or whoever it is that trains with Gilas long-term.

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      • Originally posted by Metta View Post
        Is Clarkson already as good as retired for Gilas?

        For the direction and system that CTC is developing, a once-and-a-while short-term addition like JC does not fit. Not to mention, it takes away JB or whoever it is that trains with Gilas long-term.
        He cost a lot but I wouldn't count him out. A JB injury and he is back in the mix I would think.

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        • Clarkson and green are excellent plugins even with the correctly done long-term pool of cone. It is obvious that gilas already can come up with a very capable 9-10 man crew and replacements for asian wars

          Adding two external players should be for instant boosting purposes. Cone needs at least one nba-grade guard and forward, if he wants his team to break into the top20 group.

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          • Originally posted by Metta View Post
            Is Clarkson already as good as retired for Gilas?

            For the direction and system that CTC is developing, a once-and-a-while short-term addition like JC does not fit. Not to mention, it takes away JB or whoever it is that trains with Gilas long-term.
            Originally posted by Sikatrix View Post
            He cost a lot but I wouldn't count him out. A JB injury and he is back in the mix I would think.
            With JC, though, we will have to count on AJ's health and the improvement of Kai and Carl on defense. Right now, AJ's our only defensive big, and his health record isn't the best.

            JB fits us well now, not just because of his takeover ability and team play, but also his ability to help the defense out.​

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            • Originally posted by IPC View Post



              With JC, though, we will have to count on AJ's health and the improvement of Kai and Carl on defense. Right now, AJ's our only defensive big, and his health record isn't the best.

              JB fits us well now, not just because of his takeover ability and team play, but also his ability to help the defense out.​
              If JC is still in the picture, I would love for him to get immersed in a triangle offense soon. In the world cup, his work load was so much that he kept fading in the end games.

              With the triangle, everyone shares the load and sets up each other so he can get to his spots easier. He's our perfect fit for that MJ/Kobe role. But, it takes very long to master (so many variations). He needs reps on it asap, that way he can still be a plug-and-play player.

              If he gets inserted at the last minute again, without being knowledgeable with that system, then all the long-term work as a team is useless.

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              • Originally posted by Metta View Post

                If JC is still in the picture, I would love for him to get immersed in a triangle offense soon. In the world cup, his work load was so much that he kept fading in the end games.

                With the triangle, everyone shares the load and sets up each other so he can get to his spots easier. He's our perfect fit for that MJ/Kobe role. But, it takes very long to master (so many variations). He needs reps on it asap, that way he can still be a plug-and-play player.

                If he gets inserted at the last minute again, without being knowledgeable with that system, then all the long-term work as a team is useless.
                Yes, clarkson was fagged out by overloading through stupid coaching. The problem with.st*pid pinoy coaches is that they cannot stop being st*pid. Even clarkson should not have played much over 20 minutes in the high-intensity fiba nt wars.

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                • Jordan clarkson can give tim cone a new dimension pg version of duremdes or jalen green like bong alavarez 2.0 or his new iskati in gilas offense.. if somehow fiba miraculously fixed their eligibility..pero before this questions be answefed we need to make noise in oqt..not the 2021 oqt vibes since we were exposwd badly by dominican republic..
                  To becomes Asia's Best, we need to compete against the World's Best..
                  1 Big 4 small > 5 out offense.

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                  • Originally posted by Rds View Post

                    We will see against better comp if a Kai, JB frontline is good enough defensively. Kai was abused by Al Dwairi before. We’ll see if he has improved against better comp. If Kai and JB can’t do it then SMC/SBP have to seriously consider Kouame as NP.

                    The OQT will be the barometer,if for some reason Fajardo can't go,then the natural 4 AJ if healthy is going to play small 5,that would leave Kai with JB and JB has to really go out of his way to protect that defensive liability,he will be tired and will fade in the end,but then again if they keep losing he should be able to withstand the hate coming for him.The fans will not understand why he fade just like JC,didn't understand the overuse at both ends of the court.To be really safe they gotta insert Balti there somehow,it will keep JB from playing defense too hard,and not fade towards the end.

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                    • And one must never underestimate the contribution of the huge humiliation potential of the kaiju in nt games.

                      Even the best asian guards know that the kaiju can swat their shots to the bleacher section, for their eternal and unavoidable humiliation in youtube videos. Then, those brutal in-your-face dunkathons will finish off the opposing centers, for internet posterity again. Kai is scarier than the much slower and lower jumping yao ming.

                      Other than kai, only abando can offer shocking floor humiliation with gay abandon.

                      And that is actually the good news. We just need local players to, you know, step up and go the kamehame wave and energy evolution of son gokou. You get three or more kais and abandos, and the aussie and other high-ranking nts will have a very tough game. I like fajardo, tamayo and oftana -- if they do a berserking son gokou in nt games. They play too politely like ramos.

                      I actually learned this mentality lesson first in -- chess games. The results are very different if you intend a crushing victory, or play for a quiet win or draw. Indeed, jordan was well known for hating to lose, and crushing wannabe "jordan stoppers".
                      Last edited by ccharmed; 02-27-2024, 03:29 AM.

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                      • Originally posted by ccharmed View Post
                        Kouame is more than good enough for the nt at the asian level championships. He also has ready np papers. He is both a decent center and power forward partner, but not a stand-alone shot-creator great.

                        What is absent factually are explosive take-charge local guys, of which brownlee and clarkson are the archetypes or basic models.

                        At the center position, kai can be that explosive attacker when hostile interior or zone defense is tough. He has the size, talent and aggressiveness for this, but still lacks the serious muscles to reliably power his way through. He definitely can go the towns or embid route, if he remains immersed in at least a tough aussie or japanese league.

                        At the scoring guard position, we have abando, who has enough athleticism and talent to be at least a very reliable poor man's michael jordan. Then you have nba talents like clarkson and green to make the combo guard positions very interesting for building that essential confidence in winning chances.

                        And then, there are the huge fatal gaps in forward positions. No tatum, and no doncic wannabes. The aging brownlee is the only talent here. So, if clarkson or green are not available, you need a scoring forward beast np at the very least.

                        The pinoy nt needs at least 3 players in 3 different positions who can go through world-class defenses. Forwards like tamayo, oftana or edu are decent role players. But to go beyond asian credentials, you need a forward with indecent preternatural abilities.
                        Forwards like BGR, Lucero and Balunggay plus an
                        active big in Philipps would've been nice

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                        • As of now,they should be looking to at least 2 or 3 candidates to replace Malonzo.

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                          • Originally posted by ARMIR View Post
                            As of now,they should be looking to at least 2 or 3 candidates to replace Malonzo.
                            If we need a wing, Navarro and maybe Lopez and Harris are there.

                            If we need a four, why not Alex Konov? He's young, but a good defender at 3/4 already, as he showed in the U18 two years ago.

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                            • Originally posted by Metta View Post
                              Is Clarkson already as good as retired for Gilas?

                              For the direction and system that CTC is developing, a once-and-a-while short-term addition like JC does not fit. Not to mention, it takes away JB or whoever it is that trains with Gilas long-term.
                              With naturalization process here are too long to process, JC will be probably the back up plan, if JB will be washed, unavailable, injured or retired by 2027… Many says JB is better fit than JC but we didn’t see how will JC fit under CTC.. I’m sure he will be a monster performer under triangle.. Think of Kobe or Jordan under Phil Jackson, JC will be like that under CTC led Gilas team…

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                              • Originally posted by reamily View Post
                                Jordan clarkson can give tim cone a new dimension pg version of duremdes or jalen green like bong alavarez 2.0 or his new iskati in gilas offense.. if somehow fiba miraculously fixed their eligibility..pero before this questions be answefed we need to make noise in oqt..not the 2021 oqt vibes since we were exposwd badly by dominican republic..
                                Or Kobe Bryant usage under CTC, just like him under coach Phil Jackson… Many just know JC is just a scorer in the NBA… but no, he can play defense, can play off the ball and involve his teammates… he literally save Chot’s ass in the World Cup… if not for his greatness, we will be the weakest team last year’s World Cup because Chot stubbornness…

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