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  • I just hope with this Gilas 4-year cycle under coach Tim Cone, Gilas can have training camp & gets international basketball stint during the period mid-June, July & August. Our B-league & KBL boys will be available by that time becoz it is the off season of those pro leagues. Also our college boys will also be available by that period. I don't expect our PBA players will be available during that period but I think we can easily have as many as 18 players from the B-league, KBL & collegiate basketball.

    Guys like Kai, AJ Edu, Dwight, Tamayo, Thirdy, Kiefer, RJ Abarrientos, Abando, Miguel Oczon, Gutang, Belangel, Heading, Baltazar, Quiambao, Amos, Lopez, Cansino, Escamis, Mark Belmonte, Policarpio, etc.
    "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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    • Originally posted by Giannis34GOD View Post

      This February window is not too much important in terms of capability of opponents… we all know our opponents are Hong Kong and Taipei, we always arguing before that 2-3 weeks is enough especially that HK is very weak… kahit siguro walang practice vs HK eh mananalo tayo because our superior talent against them… while against Taiwan, they are much better team than HK.. but we are confident we will beat them.. no need to win big against them… The point here eh he is already looking at 2027 WC… Kumbaga unofficially eh nag peprepare na tayo sa 2027 na dapat ganito na nung 2023 palang.. Yung OQT eh magiging part nalang ng preparations for 2027… so it means expected that we will not take OQT seriously… atleast the core 12 is already known at di na tayo mag guguhol pa when 2027 WC is approaching.. by 2027, they are ripe now atleast upsetting some European teams and finally making into 2nd round or qualifying for 2028 Olympics as best Asian team..
      CTC already said, he requested total of 7 days prep time per qualifying window and 10days for actual tournaments. regardless of window, regardless of opponent. thats fine if you have a cohesive team, and whoever the reserve players are, have more or less same chemistry or atleast understanding of the coaches gameplan. thats what more organized basketball nation do. but we arent there yet. you keep focusing on THIS coming window. ive not seen any of our fellow posters pushing the panic button on HK or Taiwan. there are doubts, sure, critics will never go away. but noone is really bothered for this upcoming window.
      WE DON'T COUNT YEARS, WE COUNT CENTURIES

      P. Noval, A.H. Lacson, Dapitan, Espanya
      SANTO TOMAS APAT NA DAAN

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      • Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post
        I just hope with this Gilas 4-year cycle under coach Tim Cone, Gilas can have training camp & gets international basketball stint during the period mid-June, July & August. Our B-league & KBL boys will be available by that time becoz it is the off season of those pro leagues. Also our college boys will also be available by that period. I don't expect our PBA players will be available during that period but I think we can easily have as many as 18 players from the B-league, KBL & collegiate basketball.

        Guys like Kai, AJ Edu, Dwight, Tamayo, Thirdy, Kiefer, RJ Abarrientos, Abando, Miguel Oczon, Gutang, Belangel, Heading, Baltazar, Quiambao, Amos, Lopez, Cansino, Escamis, Mark Belmonte, Policarpio, etc.
        whenever there is time that both PBA and the other leagues are on a break with no FIBA games, im pretty sure CTC will cook something up. all the previous coaches have done that. not only is it good team wise (for chemistry) its also a good marketing tool for SBP. when and against who, abangan.
        WE DON'T COUNT YEARS, WE COUNT CENTURIES

        P. Noval, A.H. Lacson, Dapitan, Espanya
        SANTO TOMAS APAT NA DAAN

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        • Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post
          I just hope with this Gilas 4-year cycle under coach Tim Cone, Gilas can have training camp & gets international basketball stint during the period mid-June, July & August. Our B-league & KBL boys will be available by that time becoz it is the off season of those pro leagues. Also our college boys will also be available by that period. I don't expect our PBA players will be available during that period but I think we can easily have as many as 18 players from the B-league, KBL & collegiate basketball.

          Guys like Kai, AJ Edu, Dwight, Tamayo, Thirdy, Kiefer, RJ Abarrientos, Abando, Miguel Oczon, Gutang, Belangel, Heading, Baltazar, Quiambao, Amos, Lopez, Cansino, Escamis, Mark Belmonte, Policarpio, etc.
          tim cone handling young players? good luck.. i already gave up him handling even as young as kieffer alas..
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          • Originally posted by Silent Killer View Post

            tim cone handling young players? good luck.. i already gave up him handling even as young as kieffer alas..
            TC was known for developing bigs. Guys like Poch Juinio and Sonny Thoss. He’s also known to put them in roles of facilitator on offense. Guys like Bong Hawkins and IRC Pingris.

            He likes to use tall guys as SF. Sometimes successfully like DeVance and sometimes not, like Limpot in the Centennial team. IRC he played Malonzo as SF in the recent semis.

            TC likes playing tall ball and putting tall players in decision making situations on offense. With the right personnel I would like to see if he can make it work in Fiba.

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            • Originally posted by Silent Killer View Post

              tim cone handling young players? good luck.. i already gave up him handling even as young as kieffer alas..
              To be fair he gave Scottie, Malonzo, Tolentino, Mariano and Ferrer minutes, though they're not exactly young when they entered the PBA

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              • Originally posted by Silent Killer View Post

                tim cone handling young players? good luck.. i already gave up him handling even as young as kieffer alas..
                If he can't develop young players, then it doesn't bode well for Philippine basketball that he is our national team head coach for the next 4 years.

                I'm confident that coach Tim will learn how to develop young talents in the national team. There's always room for improvement. Coach Tim was able to develop guys like Jeff Cariaso, Poch Juinio, Rodney Santos, Sonny Thoss, Chris Bolado who were then young when they played under him at Alaska.
                "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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                • Originally posted by C2Hamm View Post

                  whenever there is time that both PBA and the other leagues are on a break with no FIBA games, im pretty sure CTC will cook something up. all the previous coaches have done that. not only is it good team wise (for chemistry) its also a good marketing tool for SBP. when and against who, abangan.
                  I feel, there's no better time to do it than during the mid-June, July to August period. Unfortunately, PBA season most likely would be ongoing during that period.
                  Last edited by JAMSKIE; 01-31-2024, 04:15 AM.
                  "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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                  • Bball vloggers taking the 12-man core concept way too literally. Some lamenting that players like Abando and Heading are shut out from Gilas for the next 4 years. SMH.

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                    • Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post

                      If he can't develop young players, then it doesn't bode well for Philippine basketball that he is our national team head coach for the next 4 years.

                      I'm confident that coach Tim will learn how to develop young talents in the national team. There's always room for improvement. Coach Tim was able to develop guys like Jeff Cariaso, Poch Juinio, Rodney Santos, Sonny Thoss, Chris Bolado who were then young when they played under him at Alaska.
                      what i hope for is the core 8 plus 4 young players if tim decides to rest some oldies in his small pool.. and i really hope we can have a team b aka cadets team..
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                      • Originally posted by k3ttch View Post
                        Bball vloggers taking the 12-man core concept way too literally. Some lamenting that players like Abando and Heading are shut out from Gilas for the next 4 years. SMH.
                        That's what set the difference between ordinary basketball fans & legit basketball enthusiasts. Difference between a layman & a rational individual.
                        "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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                        • Originally posted by C2Hamm View Post

                          CTC already said, he requested total of 7 days prep time per qualifying window and 10days for actual tournaments. regardless of window, regardless of opponent. thats fine if you have a cohesive team, and whoever the reserve players are, have more or less same chemistry or atleast understanding of the coaches gameplan. thats what more organized basketball nation do. but we arent there yet. you keep focusing on THIS coming window. ive not seen any of our fellow posters pushing the panic button on HK or Taiwan. there are doubts, sure, critics will never go away. but noone is really bothered for this upcoming window.
                          Who bothering Hong Kong in basketball? Even our U19 team can beat this team… while we have always Taiwan’s numbers… So many fans are very confident beating our 1st window opponents… and CTC has to be friendly with PBA.. thus, he only request just little ample time to prepare because he’s thinking 2027 already… He doesn’t want to replicate previous coaches who failed to deliver for Gilas program… he studied all the possibilities to achieve the goals…

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                          • Originally posted by k3ttch View Post
                            Bball vloggers taking the 12-man core concept way too literally. Some lamenting that players like Abando and Heading are shut out from Gilas for the next 4 years. SMH.
                            Most content creators are there to do one thing, provoke strong emotions, just so happens that negativity gains alot of traction

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                            • He want this lineup in oqt thats why he is doing his best that it can be formed as complete or almost complete as possible so taht they can learn things even against taiwan and hong kong..
                              To becomes Asia's Best, we need to compete against the World's Best..
                              1 Big 4 small > 5 out offense.

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                              • Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post

                                If he can't develop young players, then it doesn't bode well for Philippine basketball that he is our national team head coach for the next 4 years.

                                I'm confident that coach Tim will learn how to develop young talents in the national team. There's always room for improvement. Coach Tim was able to develop guys like Jeff Cariaso, Poch Juinio, Rodney Santos, Sonny Thoss, Chris Bolado who were then young when they played under him at Alaska.
                                Guys like Kai , Aj , Carl , KQ are still young but they are now in that 12 man pool, in four years they will be part of that core. CTC did say there might be some little changes along the way, so room for other young players.

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