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  • Here's Cone's Christmas wish for there to be a sustainable Gilas program.



    "“To continue and follow up what we’ve done in the Asian Games," Cone told SPIN.ph.

    One thing, in particular, about Gilas' Asiad triumph that Cone wants to continuously see more of come 2024 and beyond is the unwavering support of the sport's stakeholders — from sporting leaders to Pinoy hoops fans anew."

    The article also mentioned that he's incumbent.

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    • Originally posted by thatweirdguy View Post

      Could have been Kobe. He clearly has the better physical tools over Oftana and most of our wing players. Had better training, better upbringing, was a former MVP's son. Sayang
      between oftana, malonzo, a healthy navarro, and soon francis lopez it's good to have multiple options, kobe paras is no longer needed.

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      • Originally posted by reamily View Post
        Jamie has all the tools innthe world but really struggled to play as 3 in fiba and refkected in his ginebra play..he just need to relax let the game flow to him..
        Jamie Malonzo isn't really a natural 3 which Calvin Oftana is. I just think that in terms of ball handling & 3 pt. shooting, Oftana has the edge over Malonzo.
        "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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        • Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post

          Jamie Malonzo isn't really a natural 3 which Calvin Oftana is. I just think that in terms of ball handling & 3 pt. shooting, Oftana has the edge over Malonzo.
          Just curious though, was Oftana already playing the 3 spot back in SBC? I always have this idea in my head that he was playing the 4/5 spot in SBC because that is the usual position for a guy his height playing in college.

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          • Originally posted by KoolAid View Post

            Just curious though, was Oftana already playing the 3 spot back in SBC? I always have this idea in my head that he was playing the 4/5 spot in SBC because that is the usual position for a guy his height playing in college.
            Mostly the 4. But they always had guys like him playing the 4/3 spots like Arthur, Mocon, Bahio, Alas, Sorela, Gamalinda, Mendoza, Rome, Navarro, etc. Puno fits the same template

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            • Originally posted by KoolAid View Post

              Just curious though, was Oftana already playing the 3 spot back in SBC? I always have this idea in my head that he was playing the 4/5 spot in SBC because that is the usual position for a guy his height playing in college.
              its more of style james payosing is a 3 in san beda but he ia more of a 2 guard.. like what pople said on puno plays 5 on beda but can be more of a combo forward
              To becomes Asia's Best, we need to compete against the World's Best..
              1 Big 4 small > 5 out offense.

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              • Originally posted by magic_chiongson View Post

                between oftana, malonzo, a healthy navarro, and soon francis lopez it's good to have multiple options, kobe paras is no longer needed.
                Urgghh, Kobe needs to forget about being a go to guy. He needs to watch tapes of Glenn Khobuntin, a solid 3 and D guy. Kobe has the athleticism and size to excel defensively especially at the Asian region and his 3 point shooting is pretty promising based on his 3pt percentage in his last year in JPN.

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                • Here's an article on Philippine basketball in 2023:

                  The success of Gilas Women, the coronation of new UAAP men's and women's champions, and the country's hosting of the FIBA World Cup highlight a colorful year for Philippine basketball

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                  • Originally posted by KoolAid View Post

                    Urgghh, Kobe needs to forget about being a go to guy. He needs to watch tapes of Glenn Khobuntin, a solid 3 and D guy. Kobe has the athleticism and size to excel defensively especially at the Asian region and his 3 point shooting is pretty promising based on his 3pt percentage in his last year in JPN.
                    Danny Green during the 2013 Playoffs

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                    • You can be. Ago to guy even you paly off ball..he just needed to be the up kobe paras..
                      To becomes Asia's Best, we need to compete against the World's Best..
                      1 Big 4 small > 5 out offense.

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                      • Originally posted by KoolAid View Post

                        Just curious though, was Oftana already playing the 3 spot back in SBC? I always have this idea in my head that he was playing the 4/5 spot in SBC because that is the usual position for a guy his height playing in college.
                        Oftana played 4 at San Beda, but the kind of 4 who had decent handles & outside shooting to play the 3. But I believe Oftana really worked to improve his ball handling when he entered the PBA or even prior to his entry into the PBA becoz he expected that his PBA team will play him mostly at the 3 spot.
                        "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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                        • Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post

                          Oftana played 4 at San Beda, but the kind of 4 who had decent handles & outside shooting to play the 3. But I believe Oftana really worked to improve his ball handling when he entered the PBA or even prior to his entry into the PBA becoz he expected that his PBA team will play him mostly at the 3 spot.
                          Oftana aside from having skills got lucky. First he got in Tabs Gilas which pegged him at a perimeter spot. Then under Yeng he was allowed to freelance and create on offense. Chot pegged him at the Troy Rosario role as offensive rebounder. If Pogoy did not get sidelined forcing TNTs hand Oftana wouldve regressed.

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                          • Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post

                            Oftana played 4 at San Beda, but the kind of 4 who had decent handles & outside shooting to play the 3. But I believe Oftana really worked to improve his ball handling when he entered the PBA or even prior to his entry into the PBA becoz he expected that his PBA team will play him mostly at the 3 spot.
                            reminds me of a big 'what-if': rich alvarez. played PG in high school but then played mostly PF/C in college. he has already lost his guard skills by the time he turned pro.

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                            • Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post
                              Oftana played 4 at San Beda, but the kind of 4 who had decent handles & outside shooting to play the 3. But I believe Oftana really worked to improve his ball handling when he entered the PBA or even prior to his entry into the PBA becoz he expected that his PBA team will play him mostly at the 3 spot.
                              Originally posted by Rds View Post
                              Oftana aside from having skills got lucky. First he got in Tabs Gilas which pegged him at a perimeter spot. Then under Yeng he was allowed to freelance and create on offense. Chot pegged him at the Troy Rosario role as offensive rebounder. If Pogoy did not get sidelined forcing TNTs hand Oftana wouldve regressed.
                              This is honestly what I like about Beda, and Ateneo as well. UP's team this season turned me off (the team as a whole, I still like some players), but they've done this with Lucero, Torculas, and hopefully Belmonte. La Salle has done this with Abadam and hopefully Policarpio. They're having tall, lanky, mobile guys to play the 3, especially if they have perimeter skills, even if they're lined up at 4.

                              As for Oftana, yes, he was lucky to get to Beda, and then translated that perimeter skill to Tab's Gilas and Yeng's NLEX. And then Pogoy's health situation, and Mikey's contract situation. Buti na lang, that arrested and reversed his regression in TNT, and he shined again. TNT until recently has had a poor track record of development.

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                              • Originally posted by Rds View Post

                                Oftana aside from having skills got lucky. First he got in Tabs Gilas which pegged him at a perimeter spot. Then under Yeng he was allowed to freelance and create on offense. Chot pegged him at the Troy Rosario role as offensive rebounder. If Pogoy did not get sidelined forcing TNTs hand Oftana wouldve regressed.
                                So the question will be, Can Oftana continue his great performance even with Pogoy’s comeback and possible Mikey’s return?

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