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tbh, if the next asian games will have same rules where you can field 2 naturalized and then tim cone will come back and pba will fully commit. i think theres a high chance we can get the gold again. but then again the rules might change i think.The message you have entered is too short. Please lengthen your message to at least 5 characters. -
I have a feeling FIBA rules will be used in the 2026 Asian Games.Originally posted by digitalsuperman View Post
Since we won the gold in the recent Asian Games, maybe the PBA would be fully committed to sending a competitive team in the 2026 Asiad."A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IVComment
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Originally posted by digitalsuperman View Postwell they managed to get the asian gold with two weeks of preparation and hugot system in the PBA. so we are back to the old ways?
nasa high table ngayon PBA eh dahil sa asian gold. even the program of toroman na years ang development di nakuha ang gold.
The hugot system worked for the Asian Games because some combination of Brownlee, Scottie, Oftana, Japeth, Perez, Newsome, and June Mar have played together before. We need to ensure that continuity even after they get too old. That means incorporating younger players like Kai, AJ, Dwight, and Carl into the roster. Even other in-prime players like Navarro, Heading, Malonzo.Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post
We need to ensure the chemistry doesn't go kaput once the vets age. Ensure continuity.Comment
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Agreed. And we had an international rim protector in Kouame.Originally posted by IPC View PostComment
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Originally posted by Rds View Post
This is what Marcial,Vargas,and others seems to forget or not acknowledge,that this team have two NPs,due to China's hubris,I'm pretty sure when the Japanese host the games next,it won't be repeated.I'm all for the same PBA players minus one NP and if the rest of the Asian teams take this seriously and send their best,it will be a different outcome for sure.Comment
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Ive said this before even we didnt take this one that seriously. The full lineup hadn't had like a week to prepare, yes we were lucky we had 2 NPs but we were unlucky in other ways. Including the fact that only that the KBL and BLeague didn't let go of its players.Originally posted by ARMIR View PostComment
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I think the proposed Gilas developmental team by Al Chua that would composed of amateur/college players that would be kept intact for a No. of years & play as a guest team in the PBA would just serve as some sort of a "feeder" to the Gilas elite team/pool & not really the national team that would compete in the qualifying windows & tournament proper of FIBA Asia Cup, World Cup or even Asian Games. I think it won't be like the NCC team in the 80's or the Smart Gilas program in the late 2000's to early 2010's.
It's really very very difficult to maintain such team & keep it intact for say 4 to 5 years now that the lure of professional basketball has gotten even stronger with Japan's B-league & Korea's KBL luring some of Phi basketball's marque players. And there's even bigger money in Japan or Korea pro basketball.
Take for instance if SBP forms that team now, that team/pool would probably be composed of current collegiate players Quiambao, Lopez, Mason Amos, CJ Cansino, Ivan Nelle, Mark Belmonte, Jonel Policarpio, etc., I think it won't be for long before guys like Quiambao, Amos, Lopez get juicy offers from B-league teams. How could the sponsor of that developmental national team match such huge offers? As soon as those players start to reach their prime, we will loose them to the PBA or B-league or the KBL. Ganyan ang nangyari sa Smart Gilas program eh. That's the reality.
Hence, I think such proposed national developmental team would just serve as a "feeder" for our elite Gilas team. Majority of players that will compose our Gilas elite team would still come from the PBA, B-league & KBL.
I say come 2027 FIBA World Cup, I expect only around 2 or 3 of the current college players we have would make it to the Gilas final 12-man roster for the World Cup.
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Well, the key really is to have a pool of say 24 players (huwag naman masyado madaming players becoz it will also be detrimental to team chemistry/cohesion) & make them regular fixtures of the national team in the qualifying windows & tournament proper of Asia Cup, World Cup, Asian Games, Jones Cup, etc. for a 4-year cycle. In that way, Gilas can easily establish chemistry & cohesion.Originally posted by IPC View Post
Also, I propose we gather our B-league & KBL boys during the B-league & KBL off-season (that is from mid-June to mid-September) for a 3 to 4-week Gilas training camp & have them play in the annual Jones Cup or other invitational international competitions. Kahit 3 to 4 weeks training camp lang per year. Yun ang maganda sa B-league & KBL eh, they have about 4 months off-season which is synchronized with the FIBA calendar. If we do it every year, then in 3 or 4 years, maganda na cohesion/chemistry ng team."A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IVComment
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stars aligned on that one. also a lot of the asian players who played in the World Cup did not play in the Asian Games. its great that we have a deep pool of good players including 2 good naturalized players.Originally posted by Sikatrix View PostThe message you have entered is too short. Please lengthen your message to at least 5 characters.Comment
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The PBA guys should know that without Kouame the PBA bigs would have been eaten alive in the Asiad. JMF was a consistent deficit against the better teams. Japeth was not much better. As for the perimeter guys, Newsome contributed a lot in the Final game. But without Brownlee can we really rely on Newsome as our best perimeter player? I will put the non-PBA players: Edu, Ramos, Kai as better in the Fiba setting than their PBA counter parts. I would even put Balti there but playing in a weaker league puts a question mark on him for now.Originally posted by Sikatrix View Post
I would say Malonzo has potential. But again playing in a weaker league such as the PBA, with 6'2 SFs and 6'6 centers, is a detriment to him.Comment
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Is he the best player in local college basketball right now? Hope Quiambao would be on Gilas roster in the 1st window of the 2025 FIBA Asia Cup qualifiers in February next year.
I predict he will get offers from a B-league team after this UAAP season.
"A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IVComment
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Developmental team will become a feeder for the seniors, as it should be. The important thing is, it has the same system or a similar system to the seniors so that the transition would be better.Originally posted by JAMSKIE View PostComment
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Cone said Panlilio wants to get his insights on the national team program moving forward after Gilas captured the gold medal in the Asiad. But Cone was quick to point out that it is not related to the coaching job with the national team.
“I did see Mr. Panlilio tonight and he said that he will contact me and we will talk but it’s not about the position,” said Cone on Sunday during the PBA 48th Season opening ceremony. “It’s just about the general vision on how the program is going to move forward. I think he wants to get some of my ideas.”
Cone reiterated that he has no plans of extending his stay with Gilas Pilipinas that he agreed to take over specifically for the Asian Games only.
“I’ve been saying a couple of times publicly that it’s a complex question because there’s not a simple answer to that because there are so many things that go on in terms of how the vision is going to be done.”
“It was a simple answer for me to do the Asian Games because I’m going to do it from here to here. And it’s very finite. And we had a full vision. We know what we wanted to do and how we want to do it,” said Cone.
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After Tab's ouster in 2022, there has been no direction for the team. 2017-2019 had no direction, no replacements for Ping and RDO, and especially Castro.Originally posted by hmbopbaduwap View Post
The SBP better set a good long-term direction. Can't keep relying on aging legs forever. Past Asiad team, and even the WC team, had good defense. Stick to that.Comment
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Why do we even bother?Originally posted by IPC View Post
I just tune in if there's an official FIBA match and hope the team triumphs. Other than that, it's pointless following any team development because it will resort to disappointments.
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